Re: [sword-devel] Which is preferred in OSIS Bibles? bookGroup or x-testament?

2012-02-13 Thread Greg Hellings
sorts of non-OSIS things when importing OSIS modules.  These are to help real-time output when using the engine.  The RenderFilter OSIS-OSIS sounds redundant, but this filter is what changes internal SWORD OSIS back into best practice public OSIS. Troy On 02/13/2012 07:51 PM, Greg

[sword-devel] Cross-build Toolchain Files

2012-02-13 Thread Greg Hellings
For anyone who likes to cross-build from Linux into Windows (c'mon, I know you all love it...) I have added a pair of toolchain files to the engine which will work with either the MinGW packages I specifically built for SWORD support in Ubuntu or with SuSE's toolchain. It also works building with

Re: [sword-devel] mod2zmod

2012-02-12 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 3:08 PM, hans h...@quik.homeip.net wrote: Hello David This is what i found to create a config file ./modules/texts/rawtext/mymodule/ ./modules/texts/ztext/mymodule/ Please take note that mod2zmod will create the zipped files, and you need to actually place them into

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-11 Thread Greg Hellings
I just wanted to reply to the following by Troy and also to his comments in #xiphos regarding this topic BibleCS, per my preference, only shows hover-over symbols for the note or cross reference, and does not include the 'n' label. BibleCS uses different filters though, so not affected.

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-11 Thread Greg Hellings
OK, we seem to be talking past each other. You are using Lockman and the NASB as your example because of its prevalence all over the web. I'm specifically not talking about Bibles. As I stated in my previous email, most of those have footnotes which start over on every page, even in print. If you

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-07 Thread Greg Hellings
Bible Time does its own thing and wouldn't be bothered by this change. It dispenses with any semblance of delineation. Both notes and cross references are marked with (*) everywhere they appear. --Greg On Feb 7, 2012 9:38 PM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: To date, we have DM in

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-07 Thread Greg Hellings
and the baby has a good heart rate. The fun starts after 7:30am tomorrow when she starts getting all her drugs and the like. --Greg Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:24 PM, scribe...@gmail.com scr...@crosswire.org wrote: BibleCS, per my preference, only shows hover

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-07 Thread Greg Hellings
to wrap the label in a span class=[fn,cx]-label then I can simply set display:none for these in swordweb? Troy Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: Bible Time does its own thing and wouldn't be bothered by this change. It dispenses with any semblance of delineation. Both notes and cross

Re: [sword-devel] Problems in new WEBBE and WEBME but not WEB

2012-01-24 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:55 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks Martin, As these two newly released modules are in CrossWire Main, we should create an issue in CrossWire Bugs (JIRA). These are USFM tags for Words of Jesus. By a lot, you mean 718 instances of \wj_ (where

Re: [sword-devel] Hiding introductions without hiding other headings?

2012-01-12 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:52 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if there were a separate Global OSIS filter to hide introductions without having to hide other headings? Are you talking about introductions like John 1:0 and John 0:0? If so, hiding those would be

Re: [sword-devel] Development, SWIG Bindings, etc...

2012-01-09 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Paul A. Martel pmarte...@gmail.com wrote: Brian, You might benefit from my experience, limited as it is. I have a windows dev box with the free version of MSVS installed. I tried following wiki instructions at

Re: [sword-devel] Development, SWIG Bindings, etc...

2012-01-09 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 4:59 PM, brian brianlovesje...@perffection.com wrote: Hey Everyone, God bless you    Hope you are enjoying your Saturday. Thank you for your welcoming notes (public/private) and ideas. I am looking more into the code, and different projects. I'd like to help with Xyphos,

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n and coverage

2012-01-06 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:29 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Extending Peter's concept, might we also make the book order something that can be worked with by front-end developers? e.g. For the NT in Eastern Canonical order we might have: Scope=Matt-Acts James-Jude Rom-Heb Rev

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n and coverage

2012-01-06 Thread Greg Hellings
2012/1/6 Костя и Алёна Маслюк kale...@mail.ru: While there is no support for module-supplied v11n in engine, no sense to making and testing modules. Test module for this task could be any incomplete module (without NT or OT). And there you have the problem. - The engine has no reason to

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n and coverage

2012-01-05 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Excellent ideas. Minor point. DMSmith writes, Chapter 1, Verse 1 is present in all books that exist. Minor, minor point: DMSmith writes, But they rely on unreliable assumptions: He was pointing out that the assumption

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n and coverage

2012-01-05 Thread Greg Hellings
2012/1/5 Костя и Алёна Маслюк kale...@mail.ru: Nice idea, we can document this and use to fix existing display problems with incomplete modules (on level of conf files and frontends, not engine). But its more like on crutches for me and really universal solution is module-supplied v11ns.

Re: [sword-devel] Status of KJV2006: Underlying Greek text, editorial updates, and linking OT to Hebrew

2012-01-03 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Weston Ruter westonru...@gmail.com wrote: Chris: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: They should refer to the then-current Robinson-Pierpont Byzantine text. So the @src word indices should match up with the text in 

Re: [sword-devel] Milestoned forms of lg and l ?

2011-12-31 Thread Greg Hellings
They would not validate because the Schema is written to require an lg l / l / /lg structure. A line makes no sense in the absence of a group of lines. Other milestoned elements can make sense on their own but a line by itself does not. It might be possible for the schema to be updated to include

Re: [sword-devel] A question about OSIS notes

2011-12-30 Thread Greg Hellings
You could easily test if this is the case by finding a phrase that wraps around a note in one of our heavily annotated modules like the KJV or ESV. Remember, if you test it, that BibleTime has its own implementation of a search engine that is separate from what SWORD provides for the rest of the

Re: [sword-devel] Sword Modules Access/Format

2011-12-29 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Ivo Benner skyt...@web.de wrote: Hello, I want to write a javascript based bible application that should be able to download and use SWORD modules. Its javascript because it should run as offline app on Linux, OSX, Windows and even on all major mobile

Re: [sword-devel] BPBible 0.5 released

2011-12-19 Thread Greg Hellings
Jonathan, Just so I keep track in my brain, in versions 0.5 you had wxHTML as your rendering engine, yes? And what are you upgrading to now? --Greg On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I have just released BPBible 0.5.  This is the first full

Re: [sword-devel] BPBible 0.5 released

2011-12-19 Thread Greg Hellings
Jon, On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Greg, On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: Jonathan, Just so I keep track in my brain, in versions 0.5 you had wxHTML as your rendering engine, yes? And what

Re: [sword-devel] BPBible 0.5 released

2011-12-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Jonathan Morgan jonmmor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Greg, On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: If Gecko/Xul ceases being good enough for you or stops updating, that might be a direction worth considering in the future

Re: [sword-devel] Promoting Bibles with Av11n?

2011-12-15 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:29 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Bibles with Alternate Versification are not listed in http://www.crosswire.org/sword/modules/ModDisp.jsp?modType=Bibles The casual visitor will be unaware of these Bibles we have in our product portfolio. e.g. If you

Re: [sword-devel] compile error on (x)ubuntu 11.10 : _FTPLIB_NO_COMPAT redefined

2011-12-11 Thread Greg Hellings
Paul, Those are just three options which would implement the HTTPS, FTPS and similar encrypted methods of access. In terms of SWORD, none of our current public repositories utilize that. I'm sure that one of those three, I'm sure, it slightly better in terms of performance, but functionally it's

Re: [sword-devel] compile error on (x)ubuntu 11.10 : _FTPLIB_NO_COMPAT redefined

2011-12-10 Thread Greg Hellings
Paul, Try installing the libcurl-dev package (I think that's its name) and building with that instead. SWORD _ought_ to compile fine without it. That is why we have ftplib included in SWORD, but we recommend use of libcurl. --Greg On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Paul A. Martel

Re: [sword-devel] Bibletime Mac OSX

2011-12-08 Thread Greg Hellings
There's been an announcement same place there usually is - the developer's list. The Mac OS package has been in perpetual beta because we have no idea if there is anyone other than Martin using it. Until we have more confirmed reports of it working and such, we've been holding off on public

Re: [sword-devel] Python Bindings

2011-11-23 Thread Greg Hellings
! --Greg On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 00:42 -0600, Greg Hellings wrote: Guys, Looks like the SWIG Python bindings (and, based on the error, I would assume the Perl bindings as well) are broken Thanks. Yes, the Perl bindings

Re: [sword-devel] Python Bindings

2011-11-23 Thread Greg Hellings
related to wchar_t. Again, I'll take a look at it when this holiday week here in the US is over! --Greg On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 23:13 -0600, Greg Hellings wrote: Yeah, trying to build it myself jogged my memory. I haven't

[sword-devel] Python Bindings

2011-11-22 Thread Greg Hellings
Guys, Looks like the SWIG Python bindings (and, based on the error, I would assume the Perl bindings as well) are broken when trying to build in Ubuntu 11.10. Seems to be a missing macro definition in the newest version of SWIG included in Ubuntu. I'll see what I can do to sort it out, as I

Re: [sword-devel] New (Beta) Version of Utilities (was Re: DevTools:ICU Normalization?)

2011-11-16 Thread Greg Hellings
David, Yes, these include every change currently in the subversion repository. --Greg On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:40 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Greg, Does this include the osis2mod bug fixes that DM Troy were working on? David -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] New (Beta) Version of Utilities (was Re: DevTools:ICU Normalization?)

2011-11-16 Thread Greg Hellings
these utilities and give me a holler if they're not working for you. --Greg On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: David, Yes, these include every change currently in the subversion repository. --Greg On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:40 AM, David Haslam dfh

[sword-devel] New (Beta) Version of Utilities (was Re: DevTools:ICU Normalization?)

2011-11-15 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:22 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks Greg. Do you happen to know which version of ICU was included when the Windows editions of the SWORD utilities were compiled? The latest available for download are still as in

Re: [sword-devel] Magyar segitsegkeres szotart ugyben

2011-11-13 Thread Greg Hellings
Anton, I will reply in English, since I know nothing of Hungarian as a language: To prepare a dictionary you should first prepare an import file. This file is then read by one of the SWORD utilities which converts it into the idx file and the other file that you saw. The easiest way is to use

[sword-devel] Packagers Take Note

2011-11-02 Thread Greg Hellings
I don't know all the appropriate emails for SWORD packagers, but figured this is as good a place as any to put out this notice. SWORD SVN contains a few commits which should be interesting from the point of view of packagers for Linux distributions. While the current SVN is not directly

Re: [sword-devel] Packagers Take Note

2011-11-02 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Jaak Ristioja j...@ristioja.ee wrote: On 02.11.2011 17:06, Greg Hellings wrote: I don't know all the appropriate emails for SWORD packagers, but figured this is as good a place as any to put out this notice. SWORD SVN contains a few commits which should

Re: [sword-devel] DevTools:ICU Normalization?

2011-10-28 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:28 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: FYI.  As a result of my posts in their forum arising from this topic, DataMystic have just released v8.9.8 of TextPipe. The release notes include: * Updated internal PCRE (Pattern Matching ) engine to v8.13 and

Re: [sword-devel] XML attribute delimiters in OSIS files?

2011-10-27 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:51 AM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On Oct 27, 2011, at 7:28 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: I think we discussed this or something similar a while back. T) Von: David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com As an aside, it may be observed that there are some languages

Re: [sword-devel] XML attribute delimiters in OSIS files?

2011-10-27 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: On 27/10/11 14:13, Greg Hellings wrote: And regardless of whether it's the real character or not, we are likely to encounter texts which are encoded with it because it's easy to type and Unicode is not. That might

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD_VERSION

2011-10-25 Thread Greg Hellings
Jaak, Troy, On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Hey Jaak, I can see how this is useful, though I believe the standard way to handle this with any package is to define what you need with, e.g., pkg-config --atleast-version=1.6.2 sword In CMAKE this

Re: [sword-devel] XML attribute delimiters in OSIS files?

2011-10-25 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:14 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: I have discovered today that osis2mod output is incorrect for any text in which the delimiters used for the *sID* milestone attribute are not the same as the delimiters for the *eID* attribute in the same verse [or verse

Re: [sword-devel] Python and Perl swig bindings failure to build

2011-10-23 Thread Greg Hellings
Peter, The Python output you include doesn't actually have any errors in it. Based on the errors I'm seeing at the top of the Perl output, it looks like the files are not locating the SWIG headers properly or some such thing. I'm in the midst of tracking down clucene0/2 compatibility in BibleTime

Re: [sword-devel] Marking colophons in OSIS?

2011-10-21 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:35 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: KJV: Galatians 6:18. Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen. Unto the Galatians written from Rome. The above text was pasted from Xiphos using export verse as plain text. The CRLF

Re: [sword-devel] Pathway, SIL, GoBible and CrossWire

2011-10-20 Thread Greg Hellings
with some other bible software. Martin On 19 October 2011 19:29, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago David pointed out the SIL Pathway project, which is a plugin for the Paratext. Paratext is a popular scripture translation editor which is available from the United Bible

Re: [sword-devel] Pathway, SIL, GoBible and CrossWire

2011-10-20 Thread Greg Hellings
David, On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 7:46 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Did Greg Trihus or anyone else at the Dallas conference happen to mention the http://www.dsmedia.org/blog/publishing-usfm-encoded-bible-translations-mobile-phones-instantly USFMtag extension  to Wikimedia

Re: [sword-devel] Pathway, SIL, GoBible and CrossWire

2011-10-20 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:46 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Maybe you didn't delve deep enough into the detail of the Distant Shores Media blog post? You've caught me red handed! I simply read the title you assigned it and assumed I understood what it was talking about. That

Re: [sword-devel] Pathway, SIL, GoBible and CrossWire

2011-10-20 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:23 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Greg wrote, GoBible overcomes this by using Graphite somehow. Well, I suppose some phone manufacturers may have designed in Graphite into their firmware, but the fact of the matter is that Go Bible relies entirely

[sword-devel] Pathway, SIL, GoBible and CrossWire

2011-10-19 Thread Greg Hellings
Some time ago David pointed out the SIL Pathway project, which is a plugin for the Paratext. Paratext is a popular scripture translation editor which is available from the United Bible Societes (http://paratext.ubs-translations.org/) and is popularly used within Wycliffe Bible Translators.

Re: [sword-devel] Pathway, SIL, GoBible and CrossWire

2011-10-19 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Matthew Talbert ransom1...@gmail.com wrote: 3) Help with the C# bindings for SWORD. I know some people have talked about them in the past, but I don't know what state they might be in. Since Pathway is written in C#, it would be a great help to anyone writing a

Re: [sword-devel] DevTools:ICU Normalization?

2011-10-13 Thread Greg Hellings
File listing ... icudt42.dll icuin42.dll icuuc42.dll ... Looks like it's version 4.2 of ICU which is at least Unicode 5.1. --Greg On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:22 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Thanks Greg. Do you happen to know which version of ICU was included when the Windows

Re: [sword-devel] QuarkXpress 4

2011-10-13 Thread Greg Hellings
Version 4? http://www.quark.com/Products/QuarkXPress/Test_Drive.aspx Version 9, 30 day trial... --Greg On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:37 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Does any CrossWire volunteer have a licensed installation of *QuarkXpress 4*? If so, please contact me, with a

Re: [sword-devel] URL's in Commentary

2011-10-13 Thread Greg Hellings
Mike, On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Mike Hart just_mik...@yahoo.com wrote: The other day I had an idea to provide a Bible Gateway module which contains URL links to the current verse for each copyrighted version available on Bible Gateway.  While this doesn't exactly solve copyrighted

Re: [sword-devel] URL's in Commentary

2011-10-13 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com writes: When Xiphos 3.1.5 is released the same will be true in it (display in Xiphos = 3.1.4 is no different from opening a page in Firefox unless the user has compiled against

Re: [sword-devel] DevTools:ICU Normalization?

2011-10-12 Thread Greg Hellings
David, SWORD can link against many different versions of the ICU library. It will detect the version that is installed on the system and leverage its internal libraries. I know it supports back at least as far as ICU 4.0 which was Unicode 5.1. It also compiles against ICU 4.8 - which supports

Re: [sword-devel] EMTV text source URL is now unrelated

2011-10-12 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:18 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Troy, Yes - you're probably right about lack of a readily available tool for direct conversion. Had I been tackling the task, I might have considered these steps: 1. Open each HTML file using MS Word, save each

Re: [sword-devel] EMTV text source URL is now unrelated

2011-10-11 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:05 PM, troypulk troyp...@yahoo.com wrote: I think that sword has the ability to display red letters so we should use it, even when the source doesn’t have it. I strongly disagree. Absence of red letters in a source is usually a choice - even a theological statement -

Re: [sword-devel] How to represent special characters in osisID attributes in a gen book

2011-10-04 Thread Greg Hellings
I thought osisID attributes were very strictly defined with certain reference schemes and abbreviations? I get fuzzy on the osisID topic but I thought it was an enumerated list of values that were pretty much like matt.1.1, matt.1.2, etc? You're probably looking for a title attribute/element (not

Re: [sword-devel] Forum spam

2011-09-26 Thread Greg Hellings
There are services that can be purchased that do this especially targeting forum/blog posts and comments and the like. I don't know if there are free ones or if those places offer free services on top of their for-profit ones. But if a person really is doing the work by hand, then there is not

Re: [sword-devel] Detecting Problem Characters

2011-09-23 Thread Greg Hellings
Michael, On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Michael Hart just_mik...@yahoo.com wrote: I've got a couple modules-in-making both of which I'm working on quote marks that aren't displaying at all or are displaying block mystery characters.  I'm spending time trying to separate apostrophes from

Re: [sword-devel] Detecting Problem Characters

2011-09-23 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Michael, It sounds like you have eol types intermixed within your file.  This script removes all \r's from your file to normalize linefeeds to newlines.  It might help. Make a backup of your file first! :)

Re: [sword-devel] Detecting Problem Characters

2011-09-23 Thread Greg Hellings
Mac newlines are \r, so that is probably what mixed you up. --Greg On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Yeah, I tried sed first, but this was originally for the mac and I couldn't get it to work with new lines on the mac. On 09/23/2011 07:59 PM, Karl

Re: [sword-devel] Problem compiling sword-1.5.9 on Fedora Core 5

2011-09-22 Thread Greg Hellings
Just an FYI - you've resurrected a 5 year old thread for a 5 year old distribution of Linux. What exactly are you doing and what is going on? --Greg On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:40 PM, KenPaxton leenapau...@gmail.com wrote: I tried passing the options -Wno-error=unused-but-set-variable but no

[sword-devel] CLucene Compatibility

2011-09-16 Thread Greg Hellings
While working on updating SWORD (and BibleTime) to handle CLucene 2.3.3.4 I have come across statements that clucene-core-0.9.21b is compatible with Lucene 1.9.1 and clucene-core-2.3.3.4 is compatible with Lucene 2.3. I asked Troy in IRC if this would mean invalidating any existing indexes. He

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: win ce 6

2011-09-08 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org wrote: On 08/09/11 14:06, Konstantin Maslyuk wrote: I  have  sent  you  privately  version of SwordReader compiled against Sword  1.6.2 with the fix and wm2003 support. Version from site really didn't work for me. Thanks for

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: win ce 6

2011-09-08 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: Shouldn't it work under VC++ Express? I believe MS got rid of their old `embedded' IDEs a while back and integrated that functionality into standard VC++, which is of course now available in the free `express' flavor.

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: win ce 6

2011-09-07 Thread Greg Hellings
I just want to throw this out there: SwordReader is not at all supported at present. Currently I am maintaining the the website only for historical reasons. If you or anyone else involved here would like to take over the project, I'd be happy to hand over the website. And probably many WinMo

[sword-devel] imp2vs segfault

2011-09-06 Thread Greg Hellings
I'm working with a pair of Bible files, both are in imp format with ThML formatting embedded in the verses. I have imported plenty of files akin to these, with no noticeable difference between them all, yet these two produce consistent segfaulting at the border between Joel 4:1 and Joel 4:2.

Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs segfault

2011-09-06 Thread Greg Hellings
Wouldn't know. I don't go near Windows without hip waders (or the promise of a paycheck, when it comes to my day job) on if I can help it. Plus, I doubt that imp2vs.exe is as up to date as the version I'm using in Linux. You're more than welcome to give it a try. I used the command imp2vs file

Re: [sword-devel] imp2vs segfault

2011-09-06 Thread Greg Hellings
versification system that we know of but haven't implemented yet, which might be a better fit. --Chris On 9/6/2011 10:30 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: Wouldn't know.  I don't go near Windows without hip waders (or the promise of a paycheck, when it comes to my day job) on if I can help it. Plus, I

[sword-devel] CLucene 2

2011-09-02 Thread Greg Hellings
So I'm looking at the trouble with building CLucene 2 and the first snag seems to hinge around the helper functions we use - lucene_utf8towcs and lucene_wcstoutf8 and the like. These are still present in CLucene 2, but they are not exposed through a public header. As I see it, we can either

Re: [sword-devel] CLucene 2

2011-09-02 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Matthew Talbert ransom1...@gmail.com wrote: So I'm looking at the trouble with building CLucene 2 and the first snag seems to hinge around the helper functions we use - lucene_utf8towcs and lucene_wcstoutf8 and the like. These are still present in CLucene 2,

Re: [sword-devel] The SIL Pathway project

2011-08-31 Thread Greg Hellings
This afternoon I spoke with my project leader at Wycliffe and I asked the team about this project. They were, of course, familiar with it, since he is the manager for the general Wycliffe-on-Linux work and FieldWorks is one of those tasks. Apparently they were unaware that GoBible is a CrossWire

Re: [sword-devel] The SIL Pathway project

2011-08-30 Thread Greg Hellings
They also include an export to Logos. The group I work with at Wycliffe does Logos - SWORD conversions, so there will be a (roundabout) path. Moreover, if this is an open source project, could someone who is interested not write a module for Pathway that performs the conversion directly to

Re: [sword-devel] Normalization?

2011-08-30 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 2:10 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On 08/30/2011 02:50 PM, David Haslam wrote: Is NFC normalization an absolute requirement for making modules, or merely a strong recommendation? Strong recommendation. Are combining characters permitted in source text

[sword-devel] SWORD Engine - critical bugs and pending releases

2011-08-26 Thread Greg Hellings
I just wanted to put out another call to see if it is possible to push for a SWORD 1.6.3 engine release. My reasons are as follows: 1) Xiphos is in the birth pangs of version 3.1.5. 2) BibleTime is planning to go forward with a new beta early next week. 3) There is still the glaring bug of Oops,

Re: [sword-devel] Logos Personal Book Builder

2011-08-15 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: I think the route of a MS Word/OOo - module is so fraught with difficulties that it is simply pointless to think one can automatise it. For docx/odt - Bible, there seems no reasonable way to automate it, but going to

Re: [sword-devel] Logos Personal Book Builder

2011-08-14 Thread Greg Hellings
I have pursued the avenue of docx - Bible conversion in the past and, allow me to state unequivocally, it is incredibly complex. The sheer number of ways to mark up the same item and material makes any sort of attempt at such a conversion almost impossible to conceive. I never completed the

Re: [sword-devel] Problems to build SVN sword with clucene-core clucene-core-2.3.3.4-1

2011-08-02 Thread Greg Hellings
2011/8/2 Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com: Dne 2.8.2011 14:54, Peter von Kaehne napsal(a): reading the log it appears your clucene is too old? ../src/modules/swmodule.cpp:1321: Warnung: static lucene::store::FSDirectory* lucene::store::FSDirectory::getDirectory(const char*, bool,

Re: [sword-devel] V11n validation (was Re: Change to Synodal verse system)

2011-08-01 Thread Greg Hellings
Writing such a utility would be trivial. Do we have any existing modules which could be used to test it? --Greg 2011/8/1 DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org: David's observation has got me thinking on whether there is a way to detect mismatches. The nature of osis2mod is to be lossless with regard

[sword-devel] v11n Verification Script

2011-08-01 Thread Greg Hellings
Using DM's suggestion I wrote a basic evaluation system to look at two texts and compare versification contents. You can fetch it from http://dl.thehellings.com/v11n_check.py It requires the Sword Python bindings as well as the numpy Python library for calculation of means and standard

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS New Testament Module Problem

2011-07-23 Thread Greg Hellings
David, http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/DevTools:confFiles has a list of all the supported conf File entries. Hopefully it's been kept up to date - I'm not really sure on that point. But it looks like you're looking for the entry Versification=NRSV in the conf file. --Greg On Sat, Jul 23, 2011

Re: [sword-devel] Problems to build SVN sword with clucene-core clucene-core-2.3.3.4-1

2011-07-22 Thread Greg Hellings
I have done a cross-compile against 2.3.3.4 without a problem. It just configured and built without even a hiccup (this was SVN head). --Greg 2011/7/22 Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com: Dne 22.7.2011 14:42, Troy A. Griffitts napsal(a): which sounds like it might be a major revision update to what

Re: [sword-devel] ICU error

2011-07-21 Thread Greg Hellings
Alex, I have usually come across that error when I thought that ICU was linked in but it wasn't (or when the data library from ICU was missing at run time). You might check to be sure that you actually are linked against ICU and that something didn't go wonky during configure. --Greg On Thu,

Re: [sword-devel] av11n repo timeline?

2011-07-14 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-13 at 23:45 -0500, Greg Hellings wrote: Well as for current status I know BibleTime is ready for it and Xiphos is not. Xiphosw is using it well enough to not crash. I think this applies to all current

Re: [sword-devel] Versification comparison script (was Re: osis2mod unhappy with New Testament osisIDs)

2011-07-14 Thread Greg Hellings
or -DSWORD_BINDINGS=Python Perl if you want to build both sets of bindings. You can also build them with autotools, but I don't remember the switches. --Greg 2011/7/14 Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com: Dne 14.7.2011 02:11, Greg Hellings napsal(a): I accept your challenge.  For those of you with the ability

Re: [sword-devel] av11n repo timeline?

2011-07-14 Thread Greg Hellings
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 10:24 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: See recently added section: http://crosswire.org/wiki/Alternate_Versification#Front-end_support_for_av11n_.3F In theory, there are several aspects to consider when looking at front-end application support for

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod unhappy with New Testament osisIDs

2011-07-13 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:03 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: You actually meant imp2vs for the latter. It has such an illogical name! I'm not so sure it's illogical. The 'imp' format seems to need a little extra help knowing whether to generate a verse-keyed module instead of a

[sword-devel] Versification comparison script (was Re: osis2mod unhappy with New Testament osisIDs)

2011-07-13 Thread Greg Hellings
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:08 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Actually, we could do with a neat script that can take any OSIS source text, and fingerprint it to all the v11ns that we already support. Would save a lot of hassle working out where the differences are, and deciding

Re: [sword-devel] av11n repo timeline?

2011-07-13 Thread Greg Hellings
Well as for current status I know BibleTime is ready for it and Xiphos is not. It is on Xiphos' next cycle plan. Current development for 3.1.5 (which is just to get compatibility with Fedora 15 and Ubuntu 11.10 with GTK3 and WebKit) is completed and it is in the testing and (Windows) build phase

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod unhappy with New Testament osisIDs

2011-07-12 Thread Greg Hellings
After I unzip the file, the XML file I open is in some sort of binary format that I can't read. --Greg 2011/7/12 Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com: Hi, I am trying to make complete OSIS module of the Czech KMS translation from the official published text

[sword-devel] New Release

2011-07-10 Thread Greg Hellings
Troy, Since you officially announced we have broken binary compatibility, are we able to get set for a new release of the library soon? I don't know about other areas, but the CMake that went out with 1.6.2 had a number of bugs and missing features, including it did not install the locales.d/

Re: [sword-devel] Character Frequency

2011-07-04 Thread Greg Hellings
Fixed: $ count.py kjv.xml Code point Character NameCount 20 SPACE 1669596 22 QUOTATION MARK 1661832 6F o LATIN SMALL LETTER O 1330866 72 r LATIN SMALL LETTER R

Re: [sword-devel] Character Frequency

2011-07-03 Thread Greg Hellings
A few simple pipes in Unix can do the same thing with relative ease. cat kjv.xml | sed -e 's/./\n/g' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr 1669596 1661832 1330866 o 1307266 r 1172801 s 1156121 e 1092384 n 1029125 m 901465 t 864037 864037 830916 = 776214 a 772641 w 625029 h 609087 : 560652 g

Re: [sword-devel] Character Frequency

2011-07-03 Thread Greg Hellings
(./count.py kjv.xml kjvfull.xml kjvlite.xml). --Greg On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: A few simple pipes in Unix can do the same thing with relative ease. cat kjv.xml | sed -e 's/./\n/g' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nr 1669596 1661832 1330866 o 1307266

Re: [sword-devel] FMT_XHTML [was: classes spans vs presentational encoding]

2011-06-29 Thread Greg Hellings
No, it's just the constant value given to the new XHTML output filters, which are combinations of our FMT_WEBIF and FMT_HTMLHREF filters. --Greg On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:29 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Is FMT_XHTML related in any way to what Jim Allbright is working on at

Re: [sword-devel] FMT_XHTML [was: classes spans vs presentational encoding]

2011-06-28 Thread Greg Hellings
I'm curious as to why you opted to make another new filter set that was a copy of one, rather than just fixing the old one. What does keeping htmlhref the way it is gain? --Greg On Tuesday, June 28, 2011, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: As discussed, I've added a new Render filter

Re: [sword-devel] Font size specification inside divinename/divinename

2011-06-24 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:52 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On 06/24/2011 01:03 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Yeah, for sure. We also have this problem on swordweb. Any ideas? I thought at one time we were supplying a + size on the first letter or something. Any bright ideas

Re: [sword-devel] Font size specification inside divinename/divinename

2011-06-24 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:46 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On Jun 24, 2011, at 5:57 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:52 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: On 06/24/2011 01:03 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Yeah, for sure.  We also have this problem

Re: [sword-devel] BREW Development?

2011-06-21 Thread Greg Hellings
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:39 AM, David (Mailing List Addy) davidsli...@gmx.net wrote: On Thursday, June 16, 2011 10:00:45 PM Greg Hellings wrote: As I understood it the FSF had (at least in the past) declared that there was an incompatibility.  But IIRC, the incompatibility was actually

[sword-devel] Perseus

2011-06-16 Thread Greg Hellings
Have any of us looked diligently at the Perseus Tools collection to judge whether or not any of its texts (and technologies!) could be leveraged into SWORD? They have a massive corpus of ancient Greek and Latin materials, including some very good and extensive dictionaries. Additionally they have

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