Hello sync-devvers,
Now that we've managed to get New Sync v1 (MVP) nailed down and defined, I'll
be shifting away from the project to focus back entirely on Firefox for Android
work.
All future Sync-related product questions should go to Rob Lord.
If MVP-related things do happen to come up, I
Hello
Based on various discussions over the past little while, it has been decided
that for Sync MVP we will go with the simplest of the three options for
user-data selection as presented in Ian's deck (see mail from yesterday).
So, for MVP users will not have the option of selecting which data
> Exactly the kind of thinking I'm looking for. I have started to think about
> these data types (passwords, history, bookmarks, etc) as individual
> services. Any given human will be putting different value on a particular
> data type. If we raise them from simple data types and think about them a
Hello
We have set up a new component for filing New Sync user story tracking
bugs:"Tracking :: Firefox Sync". Using that, I've filed bugs for all of the
user stories outlined in the MVP wiki.
Further, I have set up a page in the wiki that uses the bugzilla-mediawiki
query to build tracking ta
Oh yeah: there is one user story missing from the bug list -- this is a known
issue as it's possibly going to change based on discussions this week (the one
about whether Sync settings are universal or device-specific). I'll file that
bug when we've sorted that out.
~ d
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> I'm not sure if there are user flows ready yet. Crystal?
> >
> > ~ d
> >
>
> Ian and Zhenshuo took the action to work on updating these flows.
Excellent, thanks!
~ d
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> On 8/20/13 7:57 AM, Deb Richardson wrote:
>
> > * As a user, I expect that my Sync settings will be applied
> > universally across all of my devices, so if I change which data
> > types I'm syncing while on my phone, those changes
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>
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Deb Richardson wrote:
>
> > === MILESTONE 2 ===
> >
> > * As a user, I want optionally to specify which types of data will be
> > synced before I have to create a Firefox Account and log in to my br
Hello Sync-devvers
I've made the following additions/changes to the Sync MVP user stories. Please
review these and ensure that they match your current understanding - all
questions/discussion should happen on this thread.
Thanks!
== MILESTONE 1 ===
* As a user, I want a way to clearly underst
Hello!
Rnewman walked through the user stories and split them out into Milestones 1 &
2 based on recent discussion, and I've gone ahead and reflected that in the
wiki page here:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/User_Services/Sync/v1#User_stories
Please go through those and ensure that it all works a
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> It might be a good idea to review the current MVP and see which use-cases can
> be satisfied by the new milestone.
Yep - if the goal is to ship Milestone 1 to end users of Android and Desktop,
then we're going to have to sort out which user stories Milestone 1 does
Hello!
I have a couple of initial questions, inline...
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> We are going to take the mocks we have and build a fully functional subset of
> MVP. This is going to have the following properties:
So Milestone 1 would be some-but-not-all-of MVP? Is milestone 1 seen as
so
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> > For example, I have set up Sync on my Desktop, Laptop, Tablet, and Phone,
> > opting initially to sync all data to all devices. I want to save
> > bandwidth on my phone, however, so I later elect to stop syncing History
> > there, but I want to continue syncing His
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> Providing some idea of what's happening is definitely important (what
> datatypes are synced and what the value prop is). It's a separate question
> whether control over which datatypes will be synced qualifies as MVP, and
> it's not clear from this discussion we have
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> > * As a user, I want optionally to specify which types of data will be
> > synced. During this process, I want to understand what each type of data is
> > and what it means for me in terms of browser functionality, potential
> > bandwidth usage, and what happens to
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> I'm not arguing that our users don't deserve this. My question is whether
> it's
> part of MVP. I.e., if our users are actually better served by not having
> the existing bad sync delayed until this feature is done. ISTM that if
> Chrome doesn't have this, that's a pr
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> Does Chrome do that? I'm not saying it's bad, but is it seriously MVP?
It's just an information page...sort of a "learn more..." link that displays
more information for users who want to understand what's going on. I'm not
sure I care whether Chrome does it or n
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> > * As a user, I want to be able to modify my Sync data settings in my
> > browser at any time after I have set up Sync and am logged into my Firefox
> > Account.
>
> This seems like it needs more detail. Suppose that I am syncing my passwords
> and I decide to stop.
So, towards closing the loop here ...
Crystal: are you ok with the two proposed stories as written?
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* As a user, I want optionally to specify which types of data will be synced
before I have to create a Firefox Account and log in to my browser. During this
process, I want to be able to get
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> More to the point, I assert that it is an explicit design requirement that
> there not be more than one user-visible flag day. If the only way to
> accomplish that were a zero-migration "burn it down, old clients just break,
> new client or bust" I would still prefe
Hello Sync-devs,
I'm proposing two new user stories for New Sync MVP, based on recent user
research results:
=== TWO NEW STORIES ===
* As a user, I want optionally to specify which types of data will be synced
before I have to create a Firefox Account and log in to my browser. During this
pro
Greetings
Just FYI: Tauni, Erin and I are going to meet on Friday to sort out how we want
to file bugs & track progress for New Sync MVP. We'll come up with a proposal
and post that here for discussion early next week, and once we've come to
consensus we'll start filing bugs and setting up a b
gt;
> Andreas
>
> Sent from Mobile.
>
> On Aug 6, 2013, at 6:56, Deb Richardson wrote:
>
> > Fair enough. Thanks, Lloyd :)
> >
> > ~ d
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >> On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Deb Richardson wrote:
>
Fair enough. Thanks, Lloyd :)
~ d
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> On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Deb Richardson wrote:
> >
> > == Goals ==
> > The goals of this MVP release of the new Sync service are to:
> > * Replace the existing Sync service with a much more reliable
I've gone ahead and added these notes to the Sync v1 wiki page here:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/User_Services/Sync/v1#Migration_strategy
We can change anything in there as needed, I just wanted to keep everything in
the same place for now.
I'll work on user stories for the "Migrating from Old
Hello again,
I've added a new "Goals" section to the (now migrated) Sync v1 page, and I've
written these as:
== Goals ==
The goals of this MVP release of the new Sync service are to:
* Replace the existing Sync service with a much more reliable & scalable system
that closely (but not precisely
Ok, I'll make that user story Fennec-only for MVP. Thanks all :)
~ d
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> On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Asa Dotzler wrote:
>
> > On 8/1/2013 7:41 AM, Nick Alexander wrote:
> >> On 13-07-31 6:23 PM, Richard Newman wrote:
> But they might be preparing to use Firefox
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> But they might be preparing to use Firefox on more than one machine, or
> preparing to use Firefox on desktop and Android. I think the idea is to make
> Firefox Account setup part of a firstrun experience. And it is optional.
Just FYI, I've pinged Asa and see what he
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> On 7/31/13 2:43 PM, Deb Richardson wrote:
> [...]
> > * As a user, I want the option of setting up a new Firefox Account
> > when I first install Firefox, so I can sync my browser data between
> > my devices.
>
> Is this talking
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> It's unclear to me if you're proposing these locations as the homes of the
> user stories for these products or something broader.
>
> I vote broader.
>
> I would like it if these pages served as "portals" for these products, with a
> high level description and poin
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> We should also replace or update or delete-and-redirect the existing
> "Firefox Account" cruft that's already on the wiki from a previous
> iteration:
>
>https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Account
>https://wiki.mozilla.org/Services/FirefoxAccount
I was thinkin
Ok cool, will do.
Otherwise, all good? Move the page & start filing bugs?
~ d
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> On 1/08/2013 8:11 AM, Lloyd Hilaiel wrote:
> > On Jul 31, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Deb Richardson > <mailto:d...@mozilla.com>> wrote:
> >
>
Hello again,
It seems that we have reached consensus* around the New Sync MVP user stories
that are drafted here:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Dria/Firefox_Sync_User_Stories_-_July_2013
If this is true (and let me know if it's not), I propose that our next steps
are:
1) Move the set of u
Hello,
I believe that we've agreed to have users create Firefox Accounts for Sync, so
I've added two user stories around this to the "Set-up & Account Management"
section, as follows:
* As a user, I want the option of setting up a new Firefox Account when I first
install Firefox, so I can sync
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> We have your facebook cookie, which is equivalent to identify you. We are not
> storing anything extra here. As a UA, we simply have this info.
What would happen in a situation where I use a friend's computer or public
computer to check facebook? Would we just st
Good morning, PiCLers.
There have been requests that Product list out some of the future feature &
service ideas we've had that may involve PiCL, to help with early-stage service
planning. I have put together an extensive list of these things on the wiki
here:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:D
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