[Syslog] Call for David Harrington to resign from syslog as co-chair

2006-06-09 Thread Darren Reed
As someone who works fr the offending company, I might point out that the lodged IPR statement does not accurately reference the draft at all. It talks about section IV and section V. The current draft has no section IV or section V. The draft does have sections labelled section 4 and section 5.

Re: [Syslog] Call for David Harrington to resign from syslog as co-chair

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Lonvick
Hi Darren, David has recused himself from this discussion because of any possible conflict of interest. As you note, the claim statement does not accurately reflect the sections of the ID, but rather the sections of the claim statement itself. I am working on getting more information about

[Syslog] RE: Call for David Harrington to resign from syslog as co-chair

2006-06-09 Thread David B Harrington
Hi Darren, The disclosure document itself contains a section IV and a section V. Because I work for the company with the claim, I have recused myself from chairing the discussion, have stayed out of the discussion, and have asked Chris to lead the discussion. David Harrington [EMAIL

separate - Re: [Syslog] Draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls-01.txt

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Lonvick
Hi Sam, Please keep this between us for the moment. On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Sam Hartman wrote: First, have you looked at the updated IPR disclosure? Yes. The Cisco lawyer who deals with IPR says that he is confused by it. He suggests that I ask for a clarification of what is based on

Re: separate - Re: [Syslog] Draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls-01.txt

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Lonvick
Hi, OK - I blew it. My apologies to the Working Group and to David for my obvious problem. I had meant that to be an update to Sam only. With sincere apologies, Chris On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Chris Lonvick wrote: Hi Sam, Please keep this between us for the moment.

RE: [Syslog] Call for David Harrington to resign from syslog as co-chair

2006-06-09 Thread Anton Okmianski \(aokmians\)
I agree that Darren is overreacting in words, but maybe not in substance. I think that a co-chair generally plays some role within his own company, and can/should steer it away from behavior disruptive to the work of the standards body that this co-chair is overseeing. I would expect that from

[Syslog] Having IPR in IETF Documents

2006-06-09 Thread Chris Lonvick
Hi Folks, I do want to be clear on this subject. Hauwei is well within their rights to discover something while writing a Working Group document, and then to claim IPR on that discovery. This has happened in the past which was why the IETF started writing BCP 79 - currently RFC 3979. The