Re: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-14 Thread Richard McCann
I have problems with the statistical methods used to develop most of these tables. Even the comparison method I used, which is similar to Hoffman's is a bit too simplistic. However, the correct method is rather data intensive. I would want to use the top 100 marks over a series of years to e

Re: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-15 Thread alan tobin
ago dance) are broken every year in the same event then I question every one of those results. The state of the sport leads to such uncredibility. Alan From: Richard McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: "alan tobin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[

RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-15 Thread Matthew Harber
D]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago "running a near a WR in one event implies drug use. He's going to have to use a completely different basis for coming to that conclusion." It's not just running ne

Re: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-15 Thread Richard McCann
broken every year in the same event then I question every one of those results. The state of the sport leads to such uncredibility. Alan From: Richard McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: "alan tobin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-15 Thread alan tobin
lth reasons" Alan From: "Post, Marty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'alan tobin' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:57:20 -040

RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-15 Thread alan tobin
H...apparently I've been trumped. I'll go back to my cave now. Alan From: "Post, Marty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'alan tobin' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston

RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-15 Thread Richard McCann
At 06:01 PM 10/15/2003 +, alan tobin wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago Trumping the trump card... The record KK came within 20 seconds of wasn't 2 weeks old

RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-15 Thread William Bahnfleth
tnessing now is the product of better marathon development for young runners. matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of alan tobin Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: t-and-f: fwd: M

RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-15 Thread Philip_Ponebshek
Alan wrote: >Trumping the trump card... >It should also be known that KK isn't off my suspicion list either. I'm >suspicious of any current or former WR holder or Olympic/World gold >medalist. You can damn me for that opinion all you want but it is my opinion >and it won't change until WADA,

Re: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-15 Thread Steve Shea
2003 2:14 PM Subject: RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago > So now a 9 year old record is considered weak, and it's OK for a debut mark > to be near that record? Rutto's debut was 8 seconds off a 4 year old > record mark--that

RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-15 Thread malmo
ssage- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard McCann Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:15 PM To: alan tobin Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago >The record

RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-15 Thread Steve DiNatale
our >numerous whoppers past us. Why keep trying? I just don't get it? > >malmo > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard McCann >Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:15 PM >To: alan tobin >Cc: [EMAIL

RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-16 Thread Richard McCann
Richard McCann Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 2:15 PM To: alan tobin Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago >The record KK came within 20 seconds of wasn't 2 weeks old but 9 years >old. It sho

RE: Re: t-and-f: fwd: Marathon debutant Rutto, Boston champ Zakharova win at Chicago

2003-10-16 Thread Richard McCann
Davis RMc malmo > From: Richard McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/10/16 Thu PM 12:15:34 CDT > To: "malmo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: "'alan tobin'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g