t-and-f: RACE WALKER IS LIVING IN SPACE

2000-08-24 Thread Christopher Goss
RACE WALKER IS LIVING IN SPACE COURAN COVE, Australia (AP) - Peer into race-walker Curt Clausen's room at the U.S. Olympic track team's training camp and you think you're in outer space. On his bed is a hypoxic tent, a contraption meant to stimulate the body's red blood cells and simulate living

Re: t-and-f: Nandrolone controversy continues

2000-08-24 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/24/00 00:18:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's also not true that the liability in these cases is completely strict. Athletes who have shown that they took stuff inadvertantly - like the Russian who had her food spiked with steroids by an angry partner, and indeed Christie

Fwd: t-and-f: Do rules mean anything?

2000-08-24 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/20/00 12:09:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From long experience in many sports, it has been my observaton that when money enters the poicture, rules go out the window (or are conveniently altered). At Monaco Friday night, an obvious foul was not called in th

Re: t-and-f: Now I get it

2000-08-24 Thread Dave Johnson
Margaret Robert Tatar wrote: With no trip to Sydney in the offing, I thought my trip to the Sac OT in July represented my ultimate live track viewing experience for the year (despite the borderline Third World conditions). I was wrong. Robert, Very interesting and thank you for the post.

t-and-f: why people got votes

2000-08-24 Thread GHTFNedit
I feel like Jim Rome reading e-mails here. Some of the reasons offered for offing people: Breaux Greer-you have to have at least an A standard for this game right? Tim Seaman-gone...nothing against walking...but he is no Michael Rohl... Melvin Lister (why? I haven't read TFN closely enough

t-and-f: Rod DeHaven Interview

2000-08-24 Thread Weldon Johnson
There's a lengthy interview with Rod DeHaven at our website: http://www.letsrun.com/dehaven.html It seems like Rod has had a changeof plans about his strategy for Sydney: "I mean I could run tactical and get 15th, but I'm kind of like, 'Who cares?... I might as well as hard as I can for as

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--round 2

2000-08-24 Thread GHTFNedit
OK clones, you've got 24 hours to cut 2 more people from the dinner table. If you didn't vote the first time, doesn't mean you can't vote now. And no, you don't have to say the same thing two days in a row. And remember, the premise here was that this was somebody you'd want to sit down to

t-and-f: Survivor I results: fastest and slowest are gone

2000-08-24 Thread GHTFNedit
Voting for day 1 is now closed. And the winners (err, losers) are... the guy who moved at the fastest speed at the Trials and the guy who moved at the slowest speed. Mo Greene and Tim Seaman in a dead-heat tie. They're no longer invited to dinner. I don't want to affect future voting, so

Re: t-and-f: No CC Please!

2000-08-24 Thread Dave Carey
Tennis recently made it back (I don't remember whether it was '92 or '96) after having been gone for many decades. Dave Carey On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not much chance. Once an event is yanked from the Games, it rarely makes

Re: t-and-f: Now I get it

2000-08-24 Thread Dave Carey
European meet directors also have European audiences. European audiences have nationality. European audiences care passionately who wins a particular race or field event. The closest thing that Americans have to nationality is professional sports teams, such as baseball, basketball, or

Re: t-and-f: Rod DeHaven Interview

2000-08-24 Thread Tom Derderian
Title: Re: t-and-f: Rod DeHaven Interview Find a coach, find the time, do the work, said DeHaven in the interview as advice to an average marathoner looking to improve. Ah so succinctly put. Go read the rest. Good work. Tom Derderian, Greater Boston Track Club -- From: Weldon Johnson

Re: t-and-f: Euro Meets

2000-08-24 Thread Conway
Hmm .. I think there are definitely teams in track and field here in the Untied States .. The NCAA championships have them .. As do High School State Championships .. And in both cases I think you have the same sort of regional/nationalistic passion that you have in European meets .. And at the

RE: t-and-f: No CC Please!

2000-08-24 Thread Rich Harrington
How about XC during the winter Oly Games ??? I think it would be great, snow, mud, etc !!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Carey Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 2:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: No CC Please!

2000-08-24 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 8/24/00 1:54:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Finns and Swedes were just too dominant. Like Kenya and Ethiopia now - and funny, only 1 Finn, no distance runners in 2000. Jim Gerweck Running Times

t-and-f: John Schiefer

2000-08-24 Thread Michael Rohl
Netters, Sorry to trouble the whole list. John would you contact me please. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: 1500 metre s'chase?

2000-08-24 Thread CORA KOCH
2000 meters is the standard steeplechase distance for the World and USA Junior Championships as well as the USA Junior Olympics. Ed Koch -Original Message- From: Rick Rountree [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday,

Re: t-and-f: SURVIVOR--round 2

2000-08-24 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 8/24/00 19:04:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope that the finalists are [snip] Class acts all three. this is pretty amazing: the three names he gave were the three people who didn't pick up a single ding in the first round. On the ohter hand, all three have been

t-and-f: Be a sport, NBC

2000-08-24 Thread Dr Kamal Jabbour
Randall Stross wrote an interesting article for US News Aug 21 issue, titled "Be a sport, NBC: How could a real Olympics webcast hurt?" According to Stross, NBC will show 20 minutes of Olympic video footage on the web, or an average of 4.4 seconds per event. Full article at:

Re: t-and-f: William C. Sudeck 1926 - 2000

2000-08-24 Thread whitmank
My prayers go out to Bill's family. I had the opportunity to know him both as an athlete, as a fellow coach, and as a fellow Kent State alum. He was one of the highest quality people I've ever known-always knowing everyones name-always taking the time to compliment and encourage athletes. He

Re: t-and-f: Brussells Changes

2000-08-24 Thread franno
- Original Message - From: Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TFMail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 10:36 AM Subject: t-and-f: Brussells Changes Does anyone know why the following changes in race personnel have occurred this week ?? Men's 100 Bruny Surin - out

RE: t-and-f: '74 AAU XC Natls. @ CRYSTAL SPRINGS

2000-08-24 Thread Ray Cook
I'm probably one of the few who has had the pleasure (sarc) of running 10K X-C at Crystal. We had NCAA DII Western Regionals there in 1981. Connover won with F. Assumma 2nd and C. Assumma 3rd and DiConti 4th. I believe I was somewhere around 7th in 32:00 and our team, UCR, was quite victorious

Re: t-and-f: 1500 metre s'chase?

2000-08-24 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Thu, 24 Aug 2000 4:00:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jason L Bunston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The event is usually contested in the Junior Development ranks (under 17 the most, I believe) in British Columbia. I ran one (only one - I wore knee socks and regretted it after the

Re: t-and-f: Brussells Changes

2000-08-24 Thread A.J. Craddock
I know Bruny suffered a slight injury in the Final of the Canadian champs, which he blamed on the 20 odd minutes between his heat and the final, dictated by TV as the meet was running late. Supposedly he is OK, though. Tony Craddock At 07:36 AM 8/24/00 -0700, Conway wrote: Does anyone know

t-and-f: Bailey

2000-08-24 Thread northam
I THINK DONOVAN IS GOING TO PULL IT OFF AGAIN. WHAT DO YOU THINK? Bailey Ran a 9.98 a few months ago - check his website. I saw the race on TV. It was the one in which he got a flyer that was endlessly debated on this list with the suggestion, even, that he might have reacted properly but

Re: t-and-f: was Crystal Springs. Now NCAA site selection

2000-08-24 Thread Lindemanr
There is no such "stipulation" nor is there any "Eugene exemption" for the outdoor TF championships-- those are myths. The fact is, no institution west of Lawrence, KS, has bid for the cross country championships since the summer of '94 when the '96 championships were awarded to Arizona. I

t-and-f: Cross? Yes, please.

2000-08-24 Thread DLTFNedit
What do y'all think will be the effect of the women's race being bumped up to 6K? I don't think it will matter much at all. Little happens after about a mile in women's cross anyway. No reason to think an extra 1000 meters will change that. Also, has anyone noticed that the Pre-NCAA meet in

RE: t-and-f: '74 AAU XC Natls. @ CRYSTAL SPRINGS

2000-08-24 Thread Mike Trujillo
I too was in the 1981 NCAA II West Regional. My experience was less pleasant than Ray's. My Cal State Northridge teammates went 13-14-16-17, but then had a huge gap back to me (sick, 65th) and our other two teammates (one sick, one injured). We placed 4th by a few points, but only 3

RE: t-and-f: Cross? Yes, please.

2000-08-24 Thread malmo
The question should be, "Why only 6k?" malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 5:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Cross? Yes, please. What do y'all think will be the

Re: t-and-f: No CC Please!

2000-08-24 Thread Joe Marmazas
I'm sure it's been debated, beat to death, whatever, but some kind of cross country running at the Olympics would be great. Dunno whether it would "catch" the eye of the TV viewer, or if it would be possible to film the whole thing, but it's certainly lofty thinking. And better than ice

RE: t-and-f: Nandrolone controversy continues

2000-08-24 Thread Justin Clouder
Hi All Two comments on this point from Kelley: Maybe the problem is with the "approved supplements." If these supplements cause this effect, than maybe they should be banned. Firstly, there is no such thing as an "approved supplement". Supplements are made by commercial organisations and

t-and-f: New Zealand Trials results request

2000-08-24 Thread whitmank
Anybody know where I can find the results of the New Zealand Olympic track trials. In particular, I'd like to know the results of the men's 5000 meters. Thank you. Keith Whitman Head Cross Country Coach Assistant Track Field Coach University of Nebraska at Kearney Office (308) 865-8070 Home

Re: t-and-f: Now I get it

2000-08-24 Thread CHRIS KUYKENDALL
Dave Carey wrote: European meet directors also have European audiences. European audiences have nationality. European audiences care passionately who wins a particular race or field event. The closest thing that Americans have to nationality is professional sports teams, such as baseball,