RE: t-and-f: Re: empirical evidence

Hi Malmo, So Jon knows nothing about running but knows something about training for running (double negative). As for pontification, your post seems to fit that bill quite well. As usual, the truth probably lies somewhere between the two extremes. I know both types of Kenyan athletes. The ones

RE: t-and-f: Re: empirical evidence

Of course, it is well-known that I type way too fast and push the send button without proofing!!! YUP. Agree with you on the Kenyan stuff, but that applies to all runners not just Kenyans. Many different ways to get there. When we talk about training it's always best to refer to standard

Re: t-and-f: Re: empirical evidence

I must know something about running, having run five marathons. Maybe not as much as Malmo the magnificent. If you knew a little bit about the physiology of running, you would know that saying that 800 meters is not a distance event is silly. Kipketer made two points: he debunked the running

Re: t-and-f: american men's 10k record in jeopardy at friday's cardinal invite

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Re: t-and-f: Re: empirical evidence

³I lived right next door to school,² laughs Wilson Kipketer, world 800-meter record holder, dismissing such cookie-cutter explanations. ³I walked, nice and slow. If they walked/ran ONE mile to school, they got a more exercise than the majority of American kids. Maybe Kipketer didn't, but

t-and-f: Instant diagnosis

Netters: A little more on that Stanford casualty in the Penn DMR, A young medical gentleman of my close acquaintance was sitting next to me in the press box when the accident occured on the far side of the track. His instant diagnosis was achilles problems. A few minutes later, I went

t-and-f: Penn relays notes

Hi All, What a great weekend! As everybody who has ever gone will tell you, Penn Relays is one of the greatest events in the world. To share my impressions: Adrian Blincoe is a stud - he won the DMR for 'Nova with an 'I aint gonna' lose!' attitude. Nothing from Rugema, but it was clear with

Re: t-and-f: Penn relays notes

buck- not for nothing, but there sure didnt seem like there was any wind??? Conditions were great both nights for the distance races, it is just a shame that no one really comes anymore to run. OD 10k had 9 people on the line I believe, and college was won in 29:20ish. Maybe time for Mr. D.

t-and-f: Webb and Ritz in Dayton this weekend

Alan Webb and Dathan Ritzenhein will be in the same meet this weekend--but in separate events. At the Roosevelt Relays in Dayton, Ohio, Ritzenhein will run the two-mile on Friday, going after the national record of 8:36.3 set in 1979 by Jeff Nelson of California. On Saturday, Webb will run the

Re: t-and-f: 4 x 200 handoffs at Penn

Phil it is a simple matter of familiarity. The 4x200 is rarely run and the personal of those relays is always an iffy subject. Therefore, sight hand offs are the safest. When the wr was set SMTC did not use blind handoffs. Actually, blind handoffs are rare in the 4x200. Too much risk of

t-and-f: Michael Johnson

Title: Michael Johnson Does anyone know how long ago Michael Johnson took the baton for the anchor of a 4x4 when his team wasn't leading? Maybe at Baylor? It was a treat to see him run from behind. Joe Joe Rody PSA 424 Department of Mathematics 480-965-6440 Arizona State University P.O.

t-and-f: Kennedy: What's He Doin?

Anyone tell me what Bob Kennedy has been doing over the last year to improve his fitness over 10,000 meters? Bunch of you said "he is ready"! maddog

RE: t-and-f: Re: empirical evidence

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Entine Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:48 AM To: malmo; Track and Field List Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: empirical evidence I must know something about running, having run five marathons. -- Jon Entine

RE: t-and-f: Re: empirical evidence

I must know something about running, having run five marathons. Maybe not as much as Malmo the magnificent. You might be outclassed here, Jon ... check that, you ARE outclassed. Malmo has also run five marathons ... the slowest of which was 2:13. And I think he knows mare than a little

Re: t-and-f: Kennedy: What's He Doin?

He got mad! Platter In a message dated 4/30/01 1:30:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone tell me what Bob Kennedy has been doing over the last year to improve his fitness over 10,000 meters? Bunch of you said he is ready! maddog

t-and-f: Pre Classic Pole Vault

April 30, 2001 DRAGILA LEADS STELLAR VAULT FIELD AT PRE CLASSIC Eugene, Oregon--Fresh off her new world record in the pole vault of 15-5 (4.70) set last Friday (4/27) at the Idaho State University Springfest meet, Olympic Champion STACY DRAGILA has entered the

t-and-f: Mile at 4000+ ft.

How-dee, I'm interested in finding a mile race on the track, early in June - specifically the weekend of the 2nd or the 9th, perhaps the 16th - that is above 4000 feet - obviously to try to get the USATF qualifier. With the 3% altitude allowance one only needs 4:06.47, which seems much more

Re: t-and-f: Kennedy: What's He Doin?

Anyone tell me what Bob Kennedy has been doing over the last year to improve his fitness over 10,000 meters? Bunch of you said he is ready! He got mad! Don't they say Don't get mad, get even? Maybe we'll see this weekend. - Ed Parrot

t-and-f: Maurice Defense

I figured it was about time someone took Mo's side, so I did. A HREF=http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/printedition/article/0,2669,SAV-010 4300037,FF.htmlChicago Tribune | Print Edition -- USOC undermines a true champion/A Philip Hersh Olympic Sports Writer Chicago Tribune

t-and-f: Mile at 4000+ ft.

Hey. Good luck with your race! Bruce Boston/Cambridge. Reply-To: Buck Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] How-dee, I'm interested in finding a mile race on the track, early in June - specifically the weekend of the 2nd or the 9th, perhaps the 16th - that is above 4000 feet - obviously to try to get

t-and-f: Add Pre Classic Vault

April 30 2001 For Immediate Release GREGORIEVA ADDED TO PRE CLASSIC VAULT FIELD Eugene, Oregon--Olympic Silver Medalist TATIANA GRIGORIEVA is the latest addition to what is already the best field of women vaulters ever assembled on American soil. The 25-year-old

t-and-f: Flat earth Creationism

a scientist, would dispute. You haven't convince me, obviously. Your arguments are too selective and countered by many others' observations. Sigh...I'm not trying to convince you or anyone of anything other than than this is an intriguing issue and has implications far beyond the world of

Re: t-and-f: Maurice Defense

This link says "file not found" ... What is it that you were defending ??? Conway - Original Message - From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:Monday, April 30, 2001 12:48 PM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:t-and-f: Maurice Defense I figured it was about time someone took Mo's side, so I

t-and-f: More on Penn

Missed by many, probably from too much partying friday night, were excellent performances in the Men's 10km and Women's 5km Race Walks. The Men's race was a typical 2 man battle between US team members, Curt Clausen Al Heppner. Curt got out to an early lead and was able to hold off the late

Re: t-and-f: Maurice Defense

Nice article ... Very nice ... You know it is somewhat ironic that the media expects athletes to serve as role models, yet they themselves usually do not ... By that I mean that a role model is someone who shoulde act in a responsible manner ... And the media rarely does so ... If they did they

Re: t-and-f: Mt. Sac

One reason may be that Drake added a Thursday evening distance program to their program this year. Another may be that it is a post Olympic year. Another factor may be the shift last year of the post-collegiate distance events from Thursday night to Friday night but I would think that would be

ARGH!! Re: t-and-f: Flat earth Creationism

Alan: Fact is Allan, it seems you are trying to deliberately distort what I write. AGAIN, if you find a tall woman, it does not prove that women are taller than men. Sure you can find many individual examples. If tomorrow, some great white hope went out and ran a 2:05 marathon it would no more

t-and-f: Cleveland Marathon and 10K stories, photos

Hi all, Race reports and 15 photos from yesterday's Cleveland Marathon and 10K are now posted on www.trackprofile.com. Winners were Edilson DaSilva (2:12:43),James Koskei(28:08),Sally Barsosio (31:43)and Elvira Kolpakova (2:42:06). Congrats to list member Tony Banovich -- 8th in a PR

Re: ARGH!! Re: t-and-f: Flat earth Creationism

Now now Jon lets not jump off a bridge here. Never tried to distort what you have written. I do believe what you have written up to a point. Yes, overall there will be more great runners from North/East Africa. I never said there wouldn't. What I replied to was this statement: If you really

t-and-f: Michael not behind at takeoff

Netters: Just to set the record straight, Michael Johnson ws not touched off in 2nd place in the Penn 1600R. He got the baton a slight bit ahead, but settled in and allowed the Jamaican runner to take the lead, then just followd him until the proper moment came. It probably looked like he

Re: t-and-f: Penn relays notes

In a message dated 4/30/1 11:36:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An AWESOME event was the 75+ 100m. It was like watching a bunch of gnarly old oaks MOTIVATING down the track! They ran 15 seconds! One of the greatest feelings in the world is to sprint as fast as you can. I would bet that

t-and-f: Follow the money was- Flat earth Creationism

What if, Jon, 20 years from now Africans lose their depth and say the Japanese begin to dominate...then what? Will your findings still hold true? What would the scientists of the early 20th century say about the Finnish runners now? They dominated so well, but then fell off the earth. Well,

RE: ARGH!! Re: t-and-f: Flat earth Creationism

Everything you need to know is in Hugh Thomas' book The Slave Trade. If you like reading shipping manifests, this is the book for you. If you have insomnia, this is really the book for you. http://www.projo.com/special/black/98bhs3.htm

Re: t-and-f: Maurice Defense

I'll file this statement in the Most Ridiculous Generalizations of the Century category. Reuben Frank Burlington County Times Willingboro, N.J. the media expects athletes to serve as role models, yet ... they rarely do so = This content in no way reflects the opinions,

t-and-f: Ritz and Penn

At the Roosevelt Relays in Dayton, Ohio, Ritzenhein will run the two-mile on Friday, going after the national record of 8:36.3 set in 1979 by Jeff Nelson of California. Anyone notice that Ritzenhein ran 8:48 for his LAST 3200m at Penn! Hope he's not too tired from the 5k. Richard McCann

RE: t-and-f: Follow the money was- Flat earth Creationism

EXACTLY. If the New York and Boston Marathons reversed their trend and budgeted for the Americans what they've allocated for the Kenyans, and vise versa, would the Kenyan genes fade and American genes reappear. YUP. YU-BETCHA. Don't see any Kenyan corporations supporting American runners do you?

Re: t-and-f: Maurice Defense

Thank you Phil! Faith is a road seldom traveled Let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith" Hebrews 12: 1-2

t-and-f: PENN RELAYS DISTANCE RESULTS

...anyone with complete results from last Thursday evening's distance events at Penn?? -MF Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com

RE: t-and-f: Follow the money was- Flat earth Creationism

RE: Economical reasons. Would there be more american champions if winning a major marathon by a US runner was worth $10, 20 million? Kenyan GDP is $270 per capita. Even relatively low-key 10K like recent James Joyce Ramble offers $1000 for a win, plus appearance fees. Peanuts money for average

RE: t-and-f: Follow the money was- Flat earth Creationism

Soccer in Kenya is more popular than running, has more particpants than running, and offers potential financial rewards far greater than running There aren't any great Kenyan soccer players that I know of. On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Oleg Shpyrko wrote: RE: Economical reasons. Would there be more