Re: t-and-f: Come on!!!

2001-06-11 Thread David Dallman
The fact that DMC and DGS are confused when they have only one letter in common just adds weight to the wish of many of us that posters should just state their name at the end of their reply. David Dallman On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 [EMAIL

RE: t-and-f: Come on!!!

2001-06-11 Thread malmo
Title: Message C'mon, even the most punctilious among us make that mistake. You should be honored that wethink of you. :) malmo (not to be confused with milmo) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent:

RE: t-and-f: mile improvement since high school

2001-06-11 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
Rodgers commented that his fastest in high school was 4:18. His fastest official mile was still 4:18. But in interval workouts, he'd run miles which he thought were faster - but weren't officially timed. Rodgers was way slower than 4:18 as a HS'er. - Brian

t-and-f: TV Track Coverage?

2001-06-11 Thread Martin J. Dixon
The difference, of course, is that there is only 12 minutes of football squeezed into sometimes 4 hours of coverage when you count the pregame show whereas the networks manage to squeeze a multi hour track meet into one hour and show only a few minutes of action. Regards, Martin Date: Sun,

Re: t-and-f: Come on!!!

2001-06-11 Thread Michael Bartolina
Many apologies. I am not sure which one I should be apologizing too, but I am sorry for the mistake. Barto (not to be confused with Vanhootegem) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PAY ATTENTION!!! The email address is different and so are the initials. There is no excuse for making such a

Re: t-and-f: Minnesota State Meet

2001-06-11 Thread Jack Moran
on 6/10/01 11:52 AM, Keenan Robbins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 800 Trent Riter1:49.76 - beats state meet record of Steve Holman, a few tenths behind all time state record set by Jason Owen Tom Schmidt1:51.82 - only junior in the field Bill Bowser1:52.98 Dan Knappmiller

RE: t-and-f: mile improvement since high school

2001-06-11 Thread William Bahnfleth
I was browsing Sandrock's Running with the Legends over the weekend. (Is that an authoritative source?) Going from memory, I believe the profile on Rodgers said that he ran something like 4:28/9:38 mile/2 mile in HS. More interestingly, the piece on Keino says that his best mile at 16 was

RE: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner?

2001-06-11 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
I recently heard that Iverson ran sub 5 in a mile at a sixers practice. Does this impress anyone else? No. My HS team was not particularly deep or amazingly great ... and we had guys who weren't goo at any other events thrown into the 1600m, because they couldn't sprint or throw that well.

RE: t-and-f: Yeah CBS

2001-06-11 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
Why not go to the same link and slam them for interrupting the 1500m with a failed jump? Or not showing the men's 3k, when they plainly had time for it (just delete the ho-hum men's hurdles and 200m). I saw more Kobe Bryant on the screen than any of the men's competitors. Would this

Re: t-and-f: Come on!!!

2001-06-11 Thread Dgs1170
And the laziness has a champion! DGS aka Darrell Smith (for those with ADD) Faith is a road seldom traveled Let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith" Hebrews 12: 1-2

Re: t-and-f: NCAA USATF Champs in Same City

2001-06-11 Thread DLTFNedit
In 1972 the NCAA and Olympic Trials were both held in Eugene (although remember that the Olympic Trials were not the National Championships at that time). sideshow In a message dated Sun, 10 Jun 2001 5:06:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated Sat, 9 Jun

t-and-f: World leading marks in Athens

2001-06-11 Thread Michalis Nikitaridis
After the first hour of the Athens Grand Prix. Women's triple jump. Tatyana Lebedeva 14, 91 m. World Leading. Women's Discus throw. Nicoletta Grasu, 68, 31 m. WL Women's 400 m. Katharine Merry, 48" 59 pb and WL Men's 1.500 m. Said Sief, 3.30.77 WL (after a terrific competition with Ngeny)

Re: t-and-f: NCAA USATF Champs in Same City

2001-06-11 Thread bobhersh
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In 1972 the NCAA and Olympic Trials were both held in Eugene (although remember that the Olympic Trials were not the National Championships at that time). Remember, too, that both of those meets were men-only at that time.

t-and-f: Rolling Stone article on David Mack, et. al.

2001-06-11 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Sat, 9 Jun 2001 9:26:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben, we've seen a 45 guy run 4:00 for the mile. He's in San Quentin now for robbing a bank. malmo For those of you interested in the David Mack saga, check out the June 7 issue of Rolling

Re: t-and-f: NCAA USATF Champs in Same City

2001-06-11 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Mon, 11 Jun 2001 2:51:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bobhersh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In 1972 the NCAA and Olympic Trials were both held in Eugene (although remember that the Olympic Trials were not the National

Re: t-and-f: Dragila tops Warmerdam

2001-06-11 Thread Dave Carey
A slight bit of further explanation is appropriate. In those days if the pole fell forward through the uprights, the vault would have been considered a miss. Human interference with the natural motion of the pole, such as preventing it from falling forward by catching it, would therefore

t-and-f: NCAA USATF Champs Women not Invented

2001-06-11 Thread Tom Derderian
The young women I coach have no appreciation that before 1972 women track athletes weren't invented (ok, barely) and what the pioneers went through to make women's track and field equal to men's. These youngsters can't imagine a time when women were not considered. Tom Derderian, Boston -

t-and-f: European Record by Feofanova. Greene 9.91

2001-06-11 Thread Michalis Nikitaridis
The Athens Grand Prix exceeded even the most optimist expectations as about 3 spectators had the chance to watch some of the most brilliant world athletes to break one European Record and bring a storm of World Leading marks. Svetlana Feofanova of Russia is the new pole vault record holder

Re: t-and-f: Dragila tops Warmerdam

2001-06-11 Thread Michael Bartolina
--- Post, Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 4.81 meters Stacy Dragila has now pole-vaulted higher than the legendary Cornelius (Dutch) Warmerdam. Is there any truth to the legend that Dutch actually jumped 16' indoors at a meet, but was not given credit due to the pole falling into the pit

RE: t-and-f: Dragila tops Warmerdam

2001-06-11 Thread Post, Marty
Actually Warmerdam did go higher (legally) indoors than he did outdoors. He reached 4.79 in 1943 or .02 higher than his best outdoors WR. Still not as high as Dragila. Can't comment on 16 footer indoors since my only reference is IAAF record progression which didn't include marks dq'ed for

Re: t-and-f: Recent women's vault progression

2001-06-11 Thread Roger Ruth
Yesterday, I provided some comparisons of Stacy Dragila's contributions to the world vault record progression with those of other leading women. A reply asked, stacey is erasing many of the men's marks...where does she stand now in relation to bragg, richards, etc Others might be

t-and-f: Athletes Needed-Prize Money

2001-06-11 Thread Paul Doyle
Hello Listers I am in need of 4 athletes for a meet in Guadeloupe this weekend (16th) I am looking for athletes in these specific events and with these abilities: Women: 100m- under 11.30 1500m- under 4:18 LJ- Over 6.50m Men: 100m- under 10.25 LJ- over 7.80m (one athlete for both events) All

[Fwd: t-and-f: European Record by Feofanova. Greene 9.91]

2001-06-11 Thread Mats Ã…kerlind
Actually Kenteris was very impressive. His 20.10 came after an unbalanced end of the turn where he almost went out into the lane outside of his (he ran on lane 4). His last 80 were strong stuff. Mats Ã…kerlind The Athens Grand Prix exceeded even the most optimist expectations as about 3

t-and-f: Book Search

2001-06-11 Thread Jim VanHootegem
Listers, I am looking for a copy of the following book: Multiple Muscle Systems : Biomechanics and Movement Organizationby Jack M. Winters, Savio L-Y. Woo (Editor) If anyone has a copy, I would be more than happy to pay top dollar for it. Thanks, Jim VanHootegem (not to be confused with Barto)

t-and-f: Come on!!!

2001-06-11 Thread Macdezal
Or, would it be easier for those two, if we all just signed posts with our 3-latter initials and some scripture or a putdown immediately following the initials? Just wondering? BTM "Those who run the race run all, but only the loudest talkers take the cake" ... or some shit. Well Brian, I

RE: t-and-f: Come on!!!

2001-06-11 Thread Dave Johnson
At 5:34 PM -0400 11.06.2001, Mcewen, Brian T wrote: Or, would it be easier for those two, if we all just signed posts with our 3-latter initials and some scripture or a putdown immediately following the initials? Just wondering? BTM Those who run the race run all, but only the loudest talkers

t-and-f: Sprinter fined for going too fast

2001-06-11 Thread Randy Treadway
http://espn.go.com/oly/news/2001/0611/1212667.html RT

t-and-f: New World Record Progression zone on the Kajaks web site

2001-06-11 Thread Vincent CELIER
We have just added a new World Record Progression zone on the Kajaks web site: http://www.kajakstandf.org/wr_progression/ It is up to date, as of last week-end. We will try to keep it that way. Comments, corrections or suggestions for improvements are welcome. -- Vincent Celier --

t-and-f: Top HS milers-is there a Trend Yet?

2001-06-11 Thread Patrick Hoffman
From the full page at http://www.cs.uml.edu/~phoffman/nats/milers1.htm 1 3:53.43 Alan Webb South Lakes Reston VA '01 2 3:55.3 Jim Ryun East Wichita KS '65 3 3:59.4 Tim Danielson Chula VistaCA '66

t-and-f: Merry making progress towards goal of record

2001-06-11 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Electronic Telegraph Tuesday 12 June 2001 Tom Knight KATHARINE MERRY looked every bit a world champion in waiting here last night as she demolished a world-class field, smashed her personal best and came within a whisker of breaking the British record. In only her second race of the

t-and-f: Jackson remains single-minded to the final hurdle

2001-06-11 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Electronic Telegraph Tuesday 12 June 2001 Tom Knight COLIN JACKSON has always been a law unto himself and even with retirement looming, it seems nothing will change. Even before Britain's selectors met in Birmingham to choose the team for this month's European Cup in Bremen, Jackson was

RE: t-and-f: Let the Iverson thing go -- and talk about Shaq.

2001-06-11 Thread Christopher Goss
While the coach and I were watching the NBA finals last night, at the same time we both turned to each other and asked how Shaq might fare in a shot put ring. His free throws already look more like shot putting than basketball shooting anyway. I'd sure love to see what he could do with that

RE: t-and-f: 100-800 double

2001-06-11 Thread Christopher Goss
There can't be that many Chapas in Oregon named after former Duck gold medal winners. What's the low down on this kid? [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Class 4A Boys 800 Meter Dash Finals - Results - Saturday 05/26/01 PLACE ATHLETE NAME YR SCHOOLTIME =