Message text written by Roger Ruth
> Al Oerter, who was
from White Plains<
Al Oerter was from Long Island, which is East of NYC, not White Plains,
which is in Westchester County, just North of NYC.
White Plains has produced its fair share of fine athletes (including Larry
James and Craig Masback
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When the race ended, Beatty ran back to the timers.
"How fast was it?" he said, yelling over the crowd noise.
A timer shouted, "Three. . . . "
"I didn't hear the rest," Beatty said. "That's all I needed to know."
[EMA
Oerter attended Sewanhaka H.S. in Floral Park, just outside of Queens
(the City) and was coached by Jim Fraley - who also coached some excellent
middle distance runners like Artie Dunn and John and Bob Camien.
Geoff P (who used to live on Long Island and ran against Fraley-coached
teams)
But Malmo, that piece of white paper would look so pretty in a nice shiny
frame on my desk...:) Like most certified pieces of paper, High School
Diploma, GED, College Degree, it means squat. The problem is that people
with certified pieces of paper get the "one-up" on those with the actual
kno
Any time there is a death of a young person it is tragic.
Along with the Penn State death at the Big 10 Meet is the death of a young Pole
Vaulter at Clewiston HS in Clewiston, Florida approx 1 1/2 weeks ago. Again to
a head injury.
The vault is a very complex event. At the HS level, many
I've heard stories about some of the old SWC meets and their depth... but
has there ever been a better conference meet than this weekend'0s SEC?
Provisional qualifiers watching finals from the stands left and right... it
was ridiculous... Maybe it's just me but this meet was the strongeest
arg
But there is also nothing wrong with having the certified pieces of paper. Most of the
good coaches
I know are good people, good motivators, are the coaches with the actual knowledge -
and have the
certified pieces of paper and get the one-ups. But you are right - the certificates
might not do
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40 Years and 4 Minutes Away From History
February 24, 2002
By FRANK LITSKY
In 1954, Roger Bannister, then an English medical student,
ran a mile outdoors in 3 minutes 59.4 seconds, the first
sub-four- minute mile.
I agree that coaching is part of safety but at all levels not just high
school. I'm a high school coach who just got back from watching the SEC meet
where I saw a young lady almost got out the back of the pit on a pole that
was way to small and her coach told her to move the standards back to 70
f
Ken writes:
>3. Pool our resources. If there is an accomplished vault coach in an
area,
>send all vaulters to him or her for training at an outstanding facility.
Great idea. Now, let's figure out a way to shove it down the NCAA's throat
so that they can amend recruiting roles.
Say there
It was also in Seoul, Korea when the Koreans paid off the judges to pick
their man as the winner over Roy Jones in a bout where Jones out punched and
landed punches five to one over the Korean! Then they voted Roy Jones as
the outstanding boxer of the Olympics to try to make up for their blatant
At 08:09 PM 2/22/2002 -0800, t-and-f-digest wrote..
>"Clinton era official"? Who was that, Ed?
Well maybe Ed hasn't followed this closely enough to identify the
officials, but I will point out that the US Dept of Education, headed by a
presidential appointment, and the US Dept of Justice, head
If you are interested in supporting wrestling's fight over Title IX, please
contact Mike Moyer at the address below:
>Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: "Mike Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Richard McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: NWCA Title IX suit
>Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:32:34
Several years ago, we had a young vaulter die as a result of a vault accident
in Ohio. The coaches / athletes were faced with a very serious movement to
eliminate the event. There were many coaches on a war path to eliminate the
event. The Ohio Track Coaches Assoc. took a proactive stance and b
It is really a shame to see how far down T&F has fallen in the L.A. area. I
was fortunate enough to run in the first L.A. Invitational meet at the L.A.
Sports Arena, and have attended all of the meets except for the years of
'65, '66, and '67 when I was living and working in the Central Californi
I realize that the LA Indoor meet has a rich history which you spelled out,
but, particularly as a midwesterner, I find the notion of an indoor meet in
sunny and warm Los Angeles somewhat absurd. Am I the only one who feels
this way?
And while on the topic of track in LA, what's attendence been
US vaulter Jeff Hartwig became the sixth vaulter to clear 6m (19-8.25)
indoors yesterday with his 6.00 clearance at a vault meeting in Donetsk,
UKR. US record and 2002 world best.
Tim Mack was second with a PB 5.85 (19-2.25).
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In connection with our announcing duties at the Armory this weekend, Garry
Hill and I may need some assistance in charting field events. The
following would be essential:
- Intelligence. More specifically, quickness, alertness, and habitual accuracy.
- Good penmanship, eyesight, and hearing.
-
Charlie Francis will be speaking in Los Angeles, CA for two days (March
23-24 weekend) on sprint training and speed development. Information on the
seminar can be found at www.charliefrancis.com.
DmH
Michigan has a cross clinic in November with 350 coaches in attendance & a
track clinic in January with about 850 coaches present. They bring in all
the top speakers they can get. It is not required, but many school
districts do pay for the clinic & those that don't, the coaches attend on
their
Y ask:
At the risk of confirming my stupidity and opening a fresh scab, I need to
ask:
Could better spotting have prevented Dare's death?
What is the role of the pole-catcher at meets? I'm aware that pole vault
officials aren't allowed to intercept poles falling in certain directions,
lest
Helmets "may" prevent some head injuries from lower impact accidents like flipping
out of the back of the pit, but they also elevate the head allowing a greater chance
for the vaulter to break their neck. Also, there is no such thing a vaulting helmet.
The helmets used are for roller blading, not
You can't really catch a vaulter, that's a lot of weight dropping through the
air. But, I've pushed many an errant jumper while they're in the air from
landing on chairs, hurdles, etc.
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> Y ask:
>
> At the risk of confirming my stupidity and opening a fresh scab, I need
> Could better spotting have prevented Dare's death?
No
> What is the role of the pole-catcher at meets? I'm aware that pole vault
officials aren't allowed to intercept poles falling in certain directions,
> lest they protect the bar illegally. But I've seen officials catch poles
to prevent th
How about a helmet?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Y ask:
>
> At the risk of confirming my stupidity and opening a fresh scab, I need to
> ask:
>
> Could better spotting have prevented Dare's death?
>
> What is the role of the pole-catcher at meets? I'm aware that pole vault
> officials aren't
Quite true. Many people do not understand the hazard posed by a relatively
short fall, whether head first or feet first. A friend in the construction
management area once told me that the median height of fatal falls in
construction accidents is about 9 ft. Having slipped off a ladder while
In a message dated Mon, 25 Feb 2002 7:13:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, William
Bahnfleth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I find it surprising that Kevin Dare is the first Big 10 athlete ever to die in
>competition in any sport, if that is stated correctly in the second article.>
Just rememberin
In a meet at Chemnitz a few days ago, three German women vaulted 15-1 3/4, 15-1 3/4
and 15-0, marking the first-ever indoor meet with a trio of 15-footers (outdoors, it
happened twice last year).
Note that none of the three was Nicole Humbert, who held the old German Record at
14-11 1/2.
gh
For all of you on line who are writing about the pole vault I have a very
simple request.
I am Gary Wilson, the women's track and field coach at the University of
Minnesota. Our men's and women's teams both here and at Penn State are going
through a VERY difficult time right now.
Kevin Dare has
Netters:
Additional thoughts on my two recent posts on Title IX enforcement
and the PV death/
On Title IX: Someone asked about the name of the Clinton official
who was enforcing Title IX in ways it was never intended for (name, body
counts of men and women). I didn;t think it was
-Original Message-
From: Ed Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: track net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:24 PM
Subject: More on Title IX and PV
>Netters:
>
>Additional thoughts on my two recent posts on Title IX enforcement
>and the PV death/
>
>On Title
Reading the latest story on the Penn St PV death, a most horrible
thought came to mind. Part of the article tell that his parents taped
every competition of his and were in the stands, presumably doing this
when he fell. Damn, that makes you really feel for them.
MJR
http://sportserver.com/tra
Title IX, conceived as a tool for equality, is a farce and unecessary. It
is one of many laws and regulations that allows one group to dictate how
another group lives (using the big, coercive stick of government); however,
Title IX would be a moot issue if educational institutions would wean
them
Well gang,
Kebba summed things up pretty well. All I can tell you is that I have
certainly never announced a more powerful meet at the collegiate level. And
this was my 12th SEC meet. An absolutely fantastic meet with great
performances on both the men's and women's sides. Very well organiz
With all due respect Coach Wilson, I suspect the adults on your team and
others are capable of dealing with the realities of life - whether it be a
tragic death or banter on an email list.
From: "Gary L. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: t-and-f: RE: Penn State Tragedy
For all of you on lin
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