On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:55 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> 2010/1/21 Alan Mintz
>>
>> - cannabis=yes (bringing it back around to the subject of the thread :) )
>
> if that's the question I would tag it amenity=coffeeshop and not
> amenity=cafe, cannabis=yes. IMHO the difference between a cafe
At present, in the USA, cannabis won't be on the official menu of any cafes,
although there are likely to be some that sell it "under the counter" (that is,
illicitly). While some states in the USA now allow sale of marijuana
(cannabis) by prescription for medical purposes, use of it or sale of
Alan Mintz wrote:
> FWIW, my understanding of bar/pub/cafe in the US has been:
> cafe: Espresso/coffee drinks, soft drinks, baked goods, pre-packed food.
>
Starbucks, Coffee Bean, former Diedrichs, etc. are good examples.
This may be something that varies from region to region of the USA. I
2010/1/21 Alan Mintz
>
> - cannabis=yes (bringing it back around to the subject of the thread :) )
>
if that's the question I would tag it amenity=coffeeshop and not
amenity=cafe, cannabis=yes. IMHO the difference between a cafe and a
coffeeshop is too big to be the same tag. Or do you want ever
2010/1/21 Roy Wallace
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Erik Johansson wrote:
> >
> > ... To meet both problems you can only do this:
> > alcohol=yes
> > coffee=no
> > pastries=yes
> > egg & chips=yes
>
> I like this approach.
>
>
yes, it's OK, just it doesn't tell you whether to expect a bar o
At 2010-01-20 17:46, John F. Eldredge wrote:
>It seems more reasonable to tag the general cuisine, whether food is
>available, whether alcohol is available, whether reservations are required
>(usually only at fancier establishments), and whether the establishment
>allows children (in the USA, at
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:46 AM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> ... It seems more reasonable to tag the general cuisine, whether food is
> available, whether alcohol is available, whether reservations are required
> (usually only at fancier establishments), and whether the establishment
> allows ch
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Matthias Julius wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Erik Johansson wrote:
>>>
>>> ... To meet both problems you can only do this:
>>> alcohol=yes
>>> coffee=no
>>> pastries=yes
>>> egg & chips=yes
>>
>> I like this approach.
>
> I don't. I don't want to
2010/1/21 John F. Eldredge :
> Plus, you could potentially end up with hundreds of different tags defined,
> if a lot of people decided to add tags for their favorite dishes. It seems
> more reasonable to tag the general cuisine, whether food is available,
> whether alcohol is
They could alway
Plus, you could potentially end up with hundreds of different tags defined, if
a lot of people decided to add tags for their favorite dishes. It seems more
reasonable to tag the general cuisine, whether food is available, whether
alcohol is available, whether reservations are required (usually
2010/1/21 Matthias Julius :
> Shouldn't that be a service provided by the OSM API? You can up and
> download GPX tracks. Wouldn't it be a helpful extension if one could up
> and download geolocated photos, too?
The other option is some kind of flickr API, they claimed in July last
year there was
Roy Wallace writes:
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Erik Johansson wrote:
>>
>> ... To meet both problems you can only do this:
>> alcohol=yes
>> coffee=no
>> pastries=yes
>> egg & chips=yes
>
> I like this approach.
I don't. I don't want to revisit each place each week to see whether
the m
Martin Koppenhoefer writes:
> 2010/1/20 Peter Childs
>
>> In my book its easy.
>>
>> Cafe Usually Unlicensed.
>>
>
> Definitely I would not put licenses and other legal stuff into the
> definition. They differ almost certainly in different countries, are of no
> importance to the client and
John Smith writes:
> 2010/1/21 Erik Johansson :
>>
>> I tried mapping open_hours of shops, but it's just too much work with
>> my current work flow anyone with a good solution for it?
>
> crowd source it, photo the shop information and stick it somewhere
> accessible for the arm chair mappers to
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Erik Johansson wrote:
>
> ... To meet both problems you can only do this:
> alcohol=yes
> coffee=no
> pastries=yes
> egg & chips=yes
I like this approach.
It makes much more sense than either of the other suggestions, i.e.:
1) inventing complex explicit definitio
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> 2010/1/20 Peter Childs
>>
>> In my book its easy.
>>
>> Cafe Usually Unlicensed.
>
>
> Definitely I would not put licenses and other legal stuff into the
> definition. They differ almost certainly in different countries, are of no
2010/1/21 Erik Johansson :
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Liz wrote:
>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
>>> We map everything we can. And POIs btw is one big reason for lot of
>>> people to map.
>>>
>>
>> Originally I didn't realise that there was no special reason for which shop
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Liz wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
>> We map everything we can. And POIs btw is one big reason for lot of
>> people to map.
>>
>
> Originally I didn't realise that there was no special reason for which shops
> had tagged and which didn't, so
2010/1/20 Peter Childs
> In my book its easy.
>
> Cafe Usually Unlicensed.
>
Definitely I would not put licenses and other legal stuff into the
definition. They differ almost certainly in different countries, are of no
importance to the client and hard to research. They might even differ f
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2010/1/20 Peter Childs
>
> > In my book its easy.
> >
> > Cafe - Place to buy and consume light snacks and NON-Alcoholic Drinks
> > (Tea, Coffee, Coke etc) on site. Usually Unlicensed.
>
> in many countries you will find alcohol in cafés as well.
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, David Earl wrote:
> I still think the most important criterion is what the owner of the
> establishment says it is, not on the subjective judgement of the surveyor.
>
> David
>
In Au McDonalds call themselves "Family Restaurants" and I call them "Fast
Food".
The subjective
> Instead: "Would it be more effective to store POI's in an open
> directory (i.e. indexed by address), rather than in the OSM database
> (i.e. indexed by lat/long)?"
>
> I think it's an interesting question.
I'm not convinced. The original argument was that it is easier to
update when the
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
> We map everything we can. And POIs btw is one big reason for lot of
> people to map.
>
Originally I didn't realise that there was no special reason for which shops
had tagged and which didn't, so I only 'collected' POIs which had tags
already. Now
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Anthony wrote:
>
>...I'm liking more and more the suggestion to tag the cafe/motel with
>building=yes and addr:*=*, and leave the rest to the travel guides and yellow
>pages.
I actually think this is a fair point. Maybe if I could rephrase what
I think Anthony
2010/1/20 Anthony
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <
> dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2010/1/20 Anthony
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
>>>
We map everything we can.
>>>
>>> What in the world is that supposed to mean? It's e
2010/1/20 Anthony
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Emilie Laffray > wrote:
>
>> Just a little rant, but please chill down as there is no need to get so
>> excited like this: you have no control over the situation, simple as that.
>>
>
> The only thing I have to say about that is that the very
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Emilie Laffray
wrote:
> Just a little rant, but please chill down as there is no need to get so
> excited like this: you have no control over the situation, simple as that.
>
The only thing I have to say about that is that the very idea of keeping
directory data
2010/1/20 Anthony
>
> I'm not interested in doing it, as a map is not a good place to store such
> information. Phone book information belongs in a phone book, not a map.
>
>
>
I will add some very brief on the subject as a long and convoluted series of
mails tend to bore quite a bit, but OSM is
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <
dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/1/20 Anthony
>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
>>
>>> We map everything we can.
>>>
>>
>> What in the world is that supposed to mean? It's either untrue (as there
>> are ple
2010/1/20 Anthony
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
>
>> We map everything we can.
>>
>
> What in the world is that supposed to mean? It's either untrue (as there
> are plenty of things that can be mapped which aren't mapped) or begs the
> question.
>
no, it's not untr
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
> We map everything we can.
>
What in the world is that supposed to mean? It's either untrue (as there
are plenty of things that can be mapped which aren't mapped) or begs the
question.
I have data on the homeowner of every single famil
2010/1/20 Anthony :
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Liz wrote:
>>
>> The Dutch cafe example is parallel to the motel / love_hotel example from
>> Brazil and other countries. Sometimes a term has quite different uses in
>> different cultures, and these are traps for all travellers. The question
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Liz wrote:
> The Dutch cafe example is parallel to the motel / love_hotel example from
> Brazil and other countries. Sometimes a term has quite different uses in
> different cultures, and these are traps for all travellers. The question of
> whether the same tag h
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:00 PM, David Earl wrote:
> I still think the most important criterion is what the owner of the
> establishment says it is, not on the subjective judgement of the surveyor.
This sounds very good at first sight, but absolutely unworkable at
second. Do you really go into "T
2010/1/20 David Earl
> I still think the most important criterion is what the owner of the
> establishment says it is, not on the subjective judgement of the surveyor.
>
+1, might work well in English-speaking countries (and where it applies,
sometimes establishments have just a name "zum golde
> Still these places vary from country/culture to culture. IMHO we should
> continue the way we are going. E.g. I would recommend to tag an Italian bar
> with amenity=bar but expect something different if I navigate to a Bar in
> Rome than I would if I went to a Bar in Berlin. Let the mapuser inter
I still think the most important criterion is what the owner of the
establishment says it is, not on the subjective judgement of the surveyor.
David
On 20/01/2010 12:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> 2010/1/20 Peter Childs mailto:pchi...@bcs.org>>
>
>
> In my book its easy.
>
> Cafe - Pla
2010/1/20 Peter Childs
>
> In my book its easy.
>
> Cafe - Place to buy and consume light snacks and NON-Alcoholic Drinks
> (Tea, Coffee, Coke etc) on site. Usually Unlicensed.
>
in many countries you will find alcohol in cafés as well. In a café I would
before all expect a professional coffee-
At a bar, you stand up, at a cafe you sit down, at a pub you fall over :)
Richard
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> Cafe - Place to buy and consume light snacks and NON-Alcoholic Drinks
> (Tea, Coffee, Coke etc) on site. Usually Unlicensed.
Good luck finding one in Eastern Europe. Can't survive without selling
booze. Alcohol is essential for cafe to survive but otherwise it is
clearly cafe.
> Pub - Place to
2010/1/19 David Earl :
> On 19/01/2010 17:42, John F. Eldredge wrote:
>> beverages
>
> interestingly, not a word you would often find used in British English.
> Generally "drinks" often means alcoholic beverages, though sometimes any
> depending on context, with "soft drinks" and "hot drinks".
>
>>
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Matthias Julius wrote:
> I would not put too much meaning into tag values. There will always
> be potential for misunderstanding. We are from too many backgrounds.
> It is more important that those tags are clearly defined. And since
> the editors support presets the actual
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