Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-08-31 Thread Simon Poole
As somebody who participates in at least two outdoor activities in which road conditions are an important comfort factor* (inline skating and riding a road bike) it would be great to have a reasonably reliable indication of what to expect on a certain road segment additionally to the pure

Re: [Tagging] Ablution area

2014-08-31 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 31.08.2014 01:24, André Pirard wrote: On 2014-08-30 10:55, Dave Swarthout wrote : FWIW, I traveled extensively in New Zealand a few years ago and there an ablution block (or ablution area) is a place in a campground where one washes things — dishes, clothing, etc. That definition of ablution

Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-08-31 Thread Paul Hartmann
On 31.08.2014 08:28, Simon Poole wrote: At best the extreme values are meaningful and I would suggest that the value space at least be reduced (something along the lines of good, bad, impassable) in any preset. You may be right in principle, but I feel it is not our job to make such a drastic

Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-08-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
The tag smoothness is vague and subjective only if we define it as such. Values excellent and bad can be treated as placeholders, and we can define them on the wiki as anything we like and then expect mappers to use them according to that definition, and not solely by that one string. If you ask

Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-08-31 Thread Simon Poole
I don't think anybody was complaining about the words used for values per se, they will still be good for a chuckle in 20 years from now. However the wiki definition of how the values should be determined is simply FUBAR, and in no way defines each value pretty good. There is no point in

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - nudism

2014-08-31 Thread Richard Z.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 01:08:25AM +0200, Heiko Wöhrle wrote: Hi, added a table to the page, maybe this way it is easier to see which additional cases should be added. Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] bridge=humpback ?

2014-08-31 Thread Richard Z.
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:40:00PM -0400, Christopher Hoess wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 12:28:59PM -0400, Christopher Hoess wrote: Maintaining both bridge=movable and bridge:movable=* has at least one useful

Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-08-31 Thread Simon Poole
A last try at illustrating the insanity of the smoothness definitions. Switzerland has an extensive network of signposted inline skating routes, including the world longest single route at something around 400km (see http://skating.waymarkedtrails.org/en/ ). For readers that have never used

[Tagging] Tagging of movie rental kiosk

2014-08-31 Thread Hans De Kryger
Anyone know of any tag for a movie rental kiosk? Regards, Hans ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-08-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 31 August 2014 10:50, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: we can define them on the wiki as anything we like and then expect mappers to use them according to that definition I'd like to see some evidence for that; or indeed that most mappers refer to the wiki (even indirectly) at all.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of movie rental kiosk

2014-08-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 31 August 2014 13:20, Hans De Kryger hans.dekryge...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know of any tag for a movie rental kiosk? historic= ? ;-) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Ablution area

2014-08-31 Thread John Packer
amenity=religious_ablution or similar would be better indeed. 2014-08-31 10:19 GMT-03:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com: I don't know about that. I only wanted to point out that there are other usages of that word. The religious context is only one of several so there might be some

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of movie rental kiosk

2014-08-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:20 AM, Hans De Kryger hans.dekryge...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know of any tag for a movie rental kiosk? According to taginfo - amenity=vending_machine. After that, vending_machine gets lost in dvd, movie, DVD, etc. But with vending_machine you could add the operator

Re: [Tagging] Ablution area

2014-08-31 Thread Mishari Muqbil
How about if it was amenity=ablution and religion=* or even religion=yes? On 8/31/14 21:09, John Packer wrote: amenity=religious_ablution or similar would be better indeed. 2014-08-31 10:19 GMT-03:00 Dave Swarthout daveswarth...@gmail.com mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com: I don't know

Re: [Tagging] Archway

2014-08-31 Thread fly
Am 30.08.2014 10:48, schrieb Dave Swarthout: That is an excellent question. This arch is quite large but there are many other similar structures in villages all over Thailand. I have seen many of them but have never tagged any. There is a barrier=archway used twice in Taginfo but the ones I've

Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-08-31 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 31/08/2014, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: As somebody who participates in at least two outdoor activities in which road conditions are an important comfort factor* (inline skating and riding a road bike) it would be great to have a reasonably reliable indication of what to expect on a

Re: [Tagging] include smoothness=* in JOSM presets?

2014-08-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 31 August 2014 10:50, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: If you ask me, the table at this url: http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Key:smoothness#Smoothness defines each value pretty good. It seems from that, that the real purpose of this tag is to record the type of terrain of unpaved paths,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of movie rental kiosk

2014-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 31/ago/2014, alle ore 16:16, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us ha scritto: According to taginfo - amenity=vending_machine. After that, vending_machine gets lost in dvd, movie, DVD, etc. But with vending_machine you could add the operator i.e. DvdExpress That must be

Re: [Tagging] Ablution area

2014-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 31/ago/2014, alle ore 16:09, John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com ha scritto: amenity=religious_ablution or similar would be better indeed. +1, that is also my suggestion cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Archway

2014-08-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Il giorno 31/ago/2014, alle ore 16:56, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com ha scritto: See also barrier=sally_port [1] I am not sure if I understood you right here, but to me this arch is neither a barrier nor a Sally port. The key landmark might be a possibility, for example,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of movie rental kiosk

2014-08-31 Thread Clifford Snow
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: That must be different features (where you can buy copies of movies), because rental isn't covered by vending? I admit that I answered this question early in the morning, before I had enough coffee to get me