Re: [Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

2017-02-08 Thread Warin
On 09-Feb-17 01:41 PM, John Willis wrote: Javbw On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: The link you might be looking for is http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site +1 You can't drive into a camp site and start using facilities for

Re: [Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

2017-02-08 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Feb 8, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The link you might be looking for is > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extend_camp_site +1 You can't drive into a camp site and start using facilities for campers as a random visitor. It

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Warin
On 09-Feb-17 11:35 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: The end product is beef or meat. Cattle are just the intermediate step to arriving at something sellable LOL I have no major objection to product=cattle either for that matter. :) produce not product. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:produce

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Dave Swarthout
The end product is beef or meat. Cattle are just the intermediate step to arriving at something sellable LOL I have no major objection to product=cattle either for that matter. On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 09-Feb-17 10:48 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: >

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Mike Thompson
On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 09-Feb-17 10:48 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > Along with landuse=farmland and farmland=feedlot, how about produce=beef? > That sidesteps the issue of steer vs bull, etc. > > > Beef .. could be taken as the end product

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Warin
On 09-Feb-17 10:48 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote: Along with landuse=farmland and farmland=feedlot, how about produce=beef? That sidesteps the issue of steer vs bull, etc. Beef .. could be taken as the end product ...after slaughtering? My dictionary says cattle=ruminants of the bovine kind, of

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Mike Thompson
On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Along with landuse=farmland and farmland=feedlot, how about produce=beef? > That sidesteps the issue of steer vs bull, etc. > Feedlots are just one part of the beef (the meat from the cattle) production process, and

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Tod Fitch
That is a neat [1] idea. [1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/neat#English > On Feb 8, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > Along with landuse=farmland and farmland=feedlot, how about produce=beef? > That sidesteps the issue of steer vs bull, etc. > > On Thu,

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Dave Swarthout
Along with landuse=farmland and farmland=feedlot, how about produce=beef? That sidesteps the issue of steer vs bull, etc. On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 5:14 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 8 Feb 2017, at 22:54, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>

Re: [Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

2017-02-08 Thread Dave Swarthout
I've used some of these in that situation: shop=laundry automated=yes payment:cash=yes access=customers self_service=yes laundry_service=no (if no attendant present - you must do-it-yourself) On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:30 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8 Feb 2017, at 22:54, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > landuse=farmland > > farmland=feedlot +1, After having researched a bit about this I agree that this appears to be appropriate tagging cheers, Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Mike Thompson
On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:54 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 09-Feb-17 07:39 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > landuse=farmland > > farmland=feedlot > > produce=cattle (or whatever) + 1 > > > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list >

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Warin
On 09-Feb-17 07:39 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 8 Feb 2017, at 19:51, Tod Fitch wrote: I have a hard time accepting "amenity", a term acceptable for park benches, restaurants, etc., being applied to a feedlot. +1 Of the suggestions made so

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8 Feb 2017, at 19:51, Tod Fitch wrote: > > I have a hard time accepting "amenity", a term acceptable for park benches, > restaurants, etc., being applied to a feedlot. > +1 > Of the suggestions made so far, > > landuse=industrial >

Re: [Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

2017-02-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8 Feb 2017, at 10:37, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > > If it's a small washateria within a campsite, then I'd think that would > be an appropriate tag for that area, much the same as you might tag > shop=gift or perhaps shop=convenience for an area of a

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Tod Fitch
I have a hard time accepting "amenity", a term acceptable for park benches, restaurants, etc., being applied to a feedlot. Of the suggestions made so far, landuse=industrial industrial=feedlot (or some other equivalent) makes more sense to me. On February 8, 2017 10:42:12 AM PST, Viking

Re: [Tagging] Beef fattening stations

2017-02-08 Thread Viking
Ok, do you prefer a completely new tag or to add subtags to animal_breeding? In case of a new tag, it could be: amenity=animal_fattening animal_fattening=bovine or what else instead of amenity? In any case we should write a wiki page about this. Cheers Alberto --- Questa e-mail è stata

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for Pipe Line Reserves

2017-02-08 Thread Ross Scanlon
Agree Dave. As I said it could be a park but without on the ground survey or other info it's unknown. These are quite often parks and should be tagged as leisure=park but onwards from that is the reason it is a park. In these situations the park could also be a reserve or easement for the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15

2017-02-08 Thread St Niklaas
Hi Ross, These reserve called areas looking like greens or parks, dont have any logic in or being connected thus left open for transport of any kind. They seem to be left overs, but they are all over Longwarrin (au) Signed with access=yes, motor cycles= no, closed with a gate. So your hint

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - CoreIndoor

2017-02-08 Thread PanierAvide
Hello, Thanks for this work and this proposal. As an indoor mapper, I find these edits to the Simple Indoor Tagging full of sense. They document some local practices (level:ref is already used in France for complex buildings) and also makes clearer how to consume data (repeat_on + decimal

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for Pipe Line Reserves

2017-02-08 Thread Dave Swarthout
Thanks Ross, It *might *be a park but we can't be sure. The mapper only says source=Bing. For all we know he's merely making an educated guess. His changeset comment suggests he has also added some "pipeline reserves" although a quick look doesn't turn any up. On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:44 PM,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for Pipe Line Reserves

2017-02-08 Thread Ross Scanlon
This is the aerial imagery of the area the original poster is talking about: https://binged.it/2kN1tfC To all intents it could be a park. In osm it's at: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073 Cheers Ross On 08/02/17 19:51, Dave Swarthout wrote: Yes, I see

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for Pipe Line Reserves

2017-02-08 Thread Dave Swarthout
Yes, I see now you're asking about the land that the pipeline either runs over or through. I would avoid the term reserve, however. I generally think of a reserve as a larger area, often a park or historic area, e.g., the Gabo Island Lighthouse Reserve in Canada or the Hinchinbrook Lighthouse

Re: [Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

2017-02-08 Thread Warin
On 08-Feb-17 08:37 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On 02/08/2017 03:28 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: I see on the wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site the option shop=laundry This does not seem to be appropriate to map caravan sites that offer self-service coin-operated

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - CoreIndoor

2017-02-08 Thread Pavel Zbytovský
Hi Lorenzo, that is exactly right. See Simple Indoor tagging - chapter Multi-level : btw, the thesis was very positively accepted in my university :-) *For all, please: * --> I think its

Re: [Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

2017-02-08 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 02/08/2017 03:28 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I see on the wiki page > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site > the option > shop=laundry > > This does not seem to be appropriate to map caravan sites that offer > self-service coin-operated washing machines or dryers (and it

[Tagging] self-service laudry machines a camp and caravan sites

2017-02-08 Thread Volker Schmidt
I see on the wiki page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site the option shop=laundry This does not seem to be appropriate to map caravan sites that offer self-service coin-operated washing machines or dryers (and it seems not to be in use anyway). Is there a common scheme

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - CoreIndoor

2017-02-08 Thread Lorenzo "Beba" Beltrami
2017-02-08 10:16 GMT+01:00 Pavel Zbytovský : > Its not about new tags, just through explanation of cases for level=* > ad level=-1-8) It means -1 to 8. This is already well established and not > matter for discussion. > Hi Pavel, so if we have an elevator for the underground

Re: [Tagging] Harmonising source tag values.

2017-02-08 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 08.02.2017 02:47, Warin wrote: One mapper has taken on themselves to 'harmonise' some local source tag values. .. the major example would be Bing, bing, BING, bing and bing It is not possible to normalise them once you go beyond the simple example of Bing, and when you combine

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - CoreIndoor

2017-02-08 Thread Pavel Zbytovský
Hi Warin, Thanks for feedback, still I dont get the meaing of your first sentence, sorry. ad way too big) could you suggest proper partitioning? Its not about new tags, just through explanation of cases for level=* ad level=-1-8) It means -1 to 8. This is already well established and not matter

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - CoreIndoor

2017-02-08 Thread Warin
Err 60 seconds and .. Way too big ... as in too many things in the one proposal. I would break it up into the individual keys. The layer=-1-8 .. confusing .. is that -1 to -8 or -1 to 8 ? On 08-Feb-17 07:09 PM, Pavel Zbytovský wrote: Hello, I have some points about indoor mapping. There is

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for Pipe Line Reserves

2017-02-08 Thread Warin
On 08-Feb-17 06:51 PM, François Lacombe wrote: Hi Warin, Do you have pictures of such areas plz ? I don't see anything corresponding to 'reserve' All the best Not personally ... and it is a fair way away. As I say .. reported on the Australian group. I assume there is a sign locally to

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - CoreIndoor

2017-02-08 Thread Pavel Zbytovský
Hello, I have some points about indoor mapping. There is already an established tagging scheme - the Simple Indoor Tagging - but I think it could be refined a little. Especially it doesn't allow for easy corridors placement, and also some definitions could be more rigorous. Last year I finished