Re: [Tagging] roundtrip

>From what I gathered during this discussion, roundtrip is mostly understood and used wrongly by mappers. It's also not something about the route, but rather about a passenger who buys a ticket to come back the same way the same day/weekend and paying the return fare on the same ticket (aller/reto

Re: [Tagging] Rock outcrops in forest

sent from a phone > On 28. May 2018, at 02:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > landuse=residential and landuse:secondary=retail is what is happening on the > ground in some places. absolutely , and there might also be offices, landuse:tertiary=commercial? And wait, there’s a patch

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

I forgot to include the point of my previous message -- I think that being dismantled every night is not so important. P.D. Enviado desde un móvil (celular). Disculpe las erratas. No veo bien la pantalla... El lun., 28 de mayo de 2018 7:51, José G Moya Y. escribió: > Three years ago I read abou

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

Three years ago I read about rules for street vendors in my city, Madrid. The rules design as "street vendors" a mix of: a) Newsagent kiosks and similar (ONCE kiosks). Most of them are permanent, not dismantled at night. b) Churro/french fries/hot dog vans/kiosks. They operate on winter only, some

Re: [Tagging] Seasonal, intermittent, and ephemeral water tags

With the present OSM interpretation of 'intermittent' being any thing other than perennial, I think there needs to be a new tag to take the place (of what I think is 'intermittent') between seasonal and ephemeral. Present tagging looks to be Perennial: Always has water - OSM default - no sub t

Re: [Tagging] roundtrip

The real question, which as far as I can tell you haven’t answered, is: Does that same vehicle, after completing its route, start at the beginning of the same route again? Based on your description, the route as mapped is A1->B->C->D->E->A2. Can I get on at E, stay on the vehicle, and get

Re: [Tagging] roundtrip

An example of a (bus) route that goes out and comes back to the same location. It's not circle shaped at all, but that shouldn't matter for circular route. I removed roundtrip=yes and replaced it with circular_route=yes closed_loop=no If the last way wouldn't be in there, closed_loop would be ye

Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

On 27/05/18 21:47, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Sunday 27 May 2018, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: One problem about this proposal is that it implies the proposed tag and intermittent=* are mutually exclusive. This as said simply clashes with the current reality of tagging. ouch, intended meaning was

Re: [Tagging] Rock outcrops in forest

On 28/05/18 04:42, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Sunday 27 May 2018, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: And natural=grassland + natural:secondary=wood would be a grassland with scattered trees. I like the concept but would use landcover:secondary for the key. Some natural values are describing or implyin

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

On 28 May 2018 at 09:07, Paul Allen wrote: > How about outdoor_vendor? > > However, both of the examples you give are the sort that usually don't > have fixed assignments for vendors > so you couldn't map them at stall level anyway. > Fair enough on both counts, Would you tag the entire area eg

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:49 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > So for clarification, when there's a market that only operates on eg > Saturday mornings https://www.google.com/maps/@- > 28.0861864,153.4491747,3a,75y,247.72h,87.54t/data=!3m6!1e1! > 3m4!1saCnCOKIP7GoJVWDi7JZ0yg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 11:42 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > On 27 May 2018 at 23:20, Paul Allen wrote: > >> because they're ephemeral >> > > Or are they intermittent? :-) > I'm glad somebody took the bait. :) -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

Thanks Graeme On 28 May 2018 at 05:06, Paul Allen wrote: > but I'd call them street vendors. > > -- > Paul > So for clarification, when there's a market that only operates on eg Saturday mornings https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.0861864,153.4491747,3a,75y,247.72h,87.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sa

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

On 27 May 2018 at 23:20, Paul Allen wrote: > because they're ephemeral > Or are they intermittent? :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

It's bad form to follow up to your own mail, but... On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 8:06 PM, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny < > matkoni...@tutanota.com> wrote: > >> 27. May 2018 15:20 by pla16...@gmail.com: >> > > Take a look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 27. May 2018 15:20 by pla16...@gmail.com: > > Is there anything missing? > Having had time to think about it, I don't think that removal, dismantling or even partial dismantling are essential characteristics. Take a look at https://ww

Re: [Tagging] Rock outcrops in forest

On Sunday 27 May 2018, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > And natural=grassland + natural:secondary=wood would > > be a grassland with scattered trees. > > I like the concept but would use landcover:secondary for the key. > Some natural values are describing or implying landcover but many do > not.

Re: [Tagging] Rock outcrops in forest

sent from a phone > On 27. May 2018, at 13:38, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > And natural=grassland + natural:secondary=wood would > be a grassland with scattered trees. I like the concept but would use landcover:secondary for the key. Some natural values are describing or implying landcover

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

27. May 2018 15:20 by pla16...@gmail.com : > On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 9:49 AM, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> >> 26. May 2018 10:56 by >> dieterdre...@gmail.com >>

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

27. May 2018 15:13 by pla16...@gmail.com : > most importantly, opening_hours:complex=yes. > You joke, but one of tags that I invented this week is access:conditional = complex I did it with parking marked with this beautiful sign: https://commons.wikimedia.

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 9:49 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 26. May 2018 10:56 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > It should be now covered by > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ > street_vendor%3Dyes#Definition > I mentioned this on the discussion page a few days ago (partly a

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 9:58 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > 23. May 2018 01:18 by marc_marc_...@hotmail.com: > > So you propose opening_hours:unsigned=yes? > We can expand upon this. We can have opening_hours:positive=yes, opening_hours:negative=yes, opening_hours:integer=yes, opening_hours:rea

Re: [Tagging] sale off road, also second-hand.

On 27/05/18 01:18, Warin wrote: From https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcar What I'd do is; shop=car secondhand=yes description=off road cars brand=Jeep;Land_Rover;Land_Cruiser;*  -put the brands that it sells here name=* -put the name of the car shop here. Thanks for the r

Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

On Sunday 27 May 2018, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > One problem about this proposal is that it implies the proposed tag > > and intermittent=* are mutually exclusive. This as said simply > > clashes with the current reality of tagging. > > ouch, intended meaning was exactly opposite What you

Re: [Tagging] Rock outcrops in forest

On Sunday 27 May 2018, Ture Pålsson wrote: > > How should these areas be tagged in OSM? Some of them have been > imported as natural=bare_rock overlapping with landuse=forest, but > this has led to protests from persons stating that bare_rock should > be used only for areas of naked rock, with litt

Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

27. May 2018 11:45 by o...@imagico.de : > On Sunday 27 May 2018, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> >> I attempted to add something from this very useful summary to wiki in > > Yes, saw it. > > One problem about this proposal is that it implies the proposed tag and > intermitten

Re: [Tagging] Rock outcrops in forest

27. May 2018 12:50 by t...@turepalsson.se : > One of the features in this data is ”berg i dagen”, translated as ”rock > outcrop” on the legend of the printed maps. These areas often overlap forest. > What you typically find on the ground in those cases is sparse pine

[Tagging] Rock outcrops in forest

The Swedish Geodetic Survey, Lantmäteriet, have released data corresponding to their printed 1:5 topographic maps under a CC0 license (i.e, compatible with OpenStreetMap). One of the features in this data is ”berg i dagen”, translated as ”rock outcrop” on the legend of the printed maps. The

Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

On Sunday 27 May 2018, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I attempted to add something from this very useful summary to wiki in Yes, saw it. One problem about this proposal is that it implies the proposed tag and intermittent=* are mutually exclusive. This as said simply clashes with the current rea

Re: [Tagging] opening_hours:sign=no - RFC

23. May 2018 01:18 by marc_marc_...@hotmail.com : > Le 23. 05. 18 à 01:03, Warin a écrit : >> On 23/05/18 07:44, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/opening_hours:sign%3Dno >>> >>>

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

25. May 2018 21:19 by pla16...@gmail.com : > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > >> >> 25. May 2018 20:39 by >> craigw84+...@gmail.com >>

Re: [Tagging] marking shop as street vendor

26. May 2018 10:56 by dieterdre...@gmail.com : > sent from a phone > On 26. May 2018, at 10:49, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com > > > wrote: > > >> >> It gets trickier than expected as in some cases there are roofs >> >

Re: [Tagging] RFC proposed water property key 'ephemeral '

25. May 2018 11:42 by o...@imagico.de : > On Friday 25 May 2018, Warin wrote: >> >> Intermittent does not equal ephemeral. > > So you have said repeatedly. > > I know this is hard for native English speakers but you need to accept > that tags in OSM do not generally mean