The voting reached the planned end date.
There are 18 votes in total submitted there plus 2 non-voting comments.
The results are: 13 "yes" including my own vote and 5 "no" including one
without a comment, which gives 72% of "yes" votes.
It's marginally lower than 74%, but the response is appare
It's quite often that people mark every crossing between railway=* and
highway=* with the railway=level_crossing tag
(https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Nls), sometimes even if both belong to the same
carriageway.
While this situation is rather relevant to tramways, but it also applies
other types of rai
dieterdreist wrote
> can you please be more specific? It really depends on the kind of
> amendment
> which procedure seems appropriate (or at least isn't for sure).
At some urban locations one can find (https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Nls) that
every crossing of a railway=tram with any highway=* is ta
I wonder how such an amendment could be arranged.
Should I just make a copy of an existing page, make the relevant changes
there and let people know what it is all about?
Thanks
Vadim
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Hello,
I've opened the voting for the leisure=sunbathing_area to tag outdoor
locations dedicated for sunbathing.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sunbathing
Verifiability is an underlying assumption of OSM. Hence the word "dedicated"
is essential for describing such an area.
> Great. Write your proposal around those designated areas. Put photos of
the signage
> in the proposal, if you have them.
As you've put yourself: a "designated area" is not equivalent to an "area
with a signage".
> The wiki page for leisure=fishing doesn't require verifiability because
> that
I think you guys forgot one thing: the OSM is not specifically about UK,
Australia or any other country. It's a global map.
In your region you may perhaps you may not have any dedicated areas for
sunbathing, so -- don't use the tag. On the other hand I could imagine there
are some countries you co
Tagging mailing list wrote
> That you've changed your tune & given vague/unrealistic examples
> suggests you don't really have a proposal with any validity. It appears
> you have a solution looking for a problem.
>
> Maybe your OSM time would be better spent on other aspects of the project?
I t
dieterdreist wrote
> sent from a phone
>
>> On 14. Oct 2019, at 20:03, Markus <
> selfishseahorse@
> > wrote:
>>
>> It's a detail, but i think that leisure=sunbathing_area (or
>> leisure=sunbathing_place) were a more descriptive tag than
>> leisure=sunbathing. Besides, most leisure=* values are
Tagging mailing list wrote
> Better to drop it. it's too vague/general.
>
> All the examples in this list are leisure places (Beach, lido, park) at
> which sunbathing is just one of many assumed activities. Swimming,
> kicking a ball about, throwing a frisbee etc.There's no requirement to
> exp
OK. Any more comments or we better go for a vote?
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Richard Fairhurst wrote
> There is no need to have railway=crossing, railway=level_crossing,
> railway=tram_crossing and railway=tram_level_crossing. They are
> semantically
> identical. The type of ways (tram or heavy rail, footpath or road) is
> already expressed in the way tags and doesn't need
Warin wrote
> I note they have not considered a bridleway.
Actually would it be more reasonable to use only railway=crossing for any
crossing of a railway as suggested by Richard Fairhurst at the
http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Pedestrian-and-highway-crossings-of-tramways-tp5949364p5949424.html,
th
Paul Allen wrote
> You've found pictures of sunbathing areas with sunshades.
> Others have found pictures of sunbathing areas without sunshades. Yet
> others have
> found pictures of sunshades that are most definitely not in sunbathing
> areas.
Great! That sounds good to me.
Paul Allen wrote
Paul Allen wrote
> They are not a good indicator either
> way and therefore should not be mentioned in the proposal even as a
> possible indicator.
Perhaps that's question of a definition. Please have a look at 3 pictures
posted here earlier and let me know what do you think of them.
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Florian Lohoff-2 wrote
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 08:38:28AM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Mapping large, multi-lane roads with a "do not cross line" in the
> middle as single line requires 4-5 times the number of turn
> restrictions. These are number i am estimating from my own experience
> mapping
Markus-5 wrote
> The problem here is that pedestrians are routed along the highway=*
> way and, as you wrote, tram tracks are usually (unfortunately) mapped
> as separate ways. Consequently, the railway=crossing node is
> disconnected from the highway=* way with the highway=crossing node
> (that is
Tagging mailing list wrote
> Our local Primary School (ages 4 - 11 years, just in case there is any
> doubt) has shade sails over part of the playground to protect the little
> darlings from the sun whilst playing outside.
> You would not get as very warm welcome, if you turned up there in your
>
Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 00:30, Vɑdɪm <
> vadp.devl@
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> As for sunshades (or parasoles), they are used by sunbathers en masse, in
>> particular to cast a shadow on the face.
>>
>
> Maybe at the places
Paul Allen wrote
> On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 14:16, Vɑdɪm <
> vadp.devl@
> > wrote:
> I'm not convinced your
> proposal is
> useful anyway, so would probably abstain, but if your proposal says that
> sunshades
> are indicative of sunbathing areas I will defin
On the other hand the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic mentions crossings
for cyclists separately
(https://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/conventn/Conv_road_traffic_EN.pdf):
> 3. (a) The standing or parking of a vehicle on the carriageway shall be
> prohibited:
> (i) On pedestrian crossings, o
Paul Johnson-3 wrote
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 7:58 AM Martin Koppenhoefer <
> dieterdreist@
> >
> wrote:
>
> I'm strongly inclined to consider a cycleway a road, not a footway.
How is about a shared way for pedestrians and bicyclists ?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Zeichen_240_-_Ge
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 15:40, Paul Allen [via GIS]
wrote:
>
> Actually, it's true of the rest of the world, too. You cannot sunbathe
> under a sunshade.
> Therefore sunshades are NOT indicative that an area is for sunbathing.
> Maybe, just
> maybe, an area designated for sunbathing may have some
Hi Markus-5,
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 20:14, Markus-5 [via GIS]
wrote:
>
> I don't know the situation in other countries, but in Switzerland,
> pedestrian train crossing are signalised (example [1]), while
> pedestrian tram crossings usually aren't (example [2]), even if the
> tram runs on a reserve
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 13:39, Warin [via GIS] wrote:
> In Australia sunshades are to keep people out of the sun, not for
> 'sunbathing'.
>
> Poolsides and beaches are used for sunbathing... but have no official
> 'designation' for sunbathing.
>
> The only designated sunbathing I can find on the web
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 12:21, Marc Gemis [via GIS] wrote:
>
> Does this include places like the one see in the images here [1]
> Those depict what we call ligweide or zonneweide in Dutch. Those are
> grass areas typically next to a open-air swimming pool.
>
>
> [1]
> https://www.google.com/search?q=
Warin wrote
> Humm.. don't think any place here is 'designated' for sunbathing.
>
> Who has done this 'designation' for sunbathing?
Actually there are some. Please have a look at the
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/sunbathing#Examples,
specifically at the 1st couple of them
One could find two different schemes are used for this across the OSM:
#1. The most popular way is to tag the nodes with railway=crossing
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dcrossing). There are
currently *35151* nodes like this around the world
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/MVO.
It
Considering the responses it may be better to give a more definite criteria
for using this tag.
In this regard the definition of leisure=sunbathing as *any* popular place
suitable for sunbathing looks rather vague. It could be more easily also
used as a trolltag.
So, how is about using leisure=su
dieterdreist wrote
> you might want to refer to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:nudism
> as suitable combination.
The difference with the nudism=* key though is that leisure=sunbathing is
supposed for tagging of a self-sufficient area which may be a part of some
larger area like a beach or
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