Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:57:47 +0200 > Richard wrote: > > > Imo *=designated and *=permissive also imply infomration about > > suitability. > > Typically it is true - but in theory something may

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

Come here to my city to find heaps of designated cycleways that are nearly unusable! Both designated and permissive are purely legal access definitions, not implying anything abut the practical suitability of the way. To describe the physical suitability we have tags like: surface; width;

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 13:57:47 +0200 Richard wrote: > Imo *=designated and *=permissive also imply infomration about > suitability. Typically it is true - but in theory something may be legally cycleway and unsuitable for cyclists. It would be bicycle=designated (but it is

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 10:38:21PM -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Richard wrote: > > > Just wondered - when did anyone here last see a wheelchair=no road sign? > > Is any > > of these 214658 tags correct? > >

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

Just a minor correction. On Thu, 3 Sep 2015, Paul Johnson wrote: > Bonus round from yet further up: > > highway=tertiary > bicycle=designated > cycleway=lane > parking:lanes:right=parallel   (after the parking restriction sign at least; > before that it's fire_lane) >

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Richard wrote: > Just wondered - when did anyone here last see a wheelchair=no road sign? > Is any > of these 214658 tags correct? > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/?key=wheelchair=no wheelchair=no is defined by http://wheelmap.org/

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Ruben Maes wrote: > Friday 28 August 2015 19:05:52, Mateusz Konieczny: > > For example iD - is it clearly > > indicating that it is about legal status? I am also regularly checking > > situation in my region and fixing new problem. > > In

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

Saying allowed as the prefix would be less ambiguous than access, as many people are likely to interpret access as is access possible. After all, referring to a location as not wheelchair-accessible means that it difficult to get to via wheelchair, not that wheelchair use is forbidden. --

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 02:15:56PM +0200, Anders Fougner wrote: Hi, as probably most of you are aware of, common access tags such as foot=*, bicycle=* etc. are every often misunderstood by the people contributing to OSM. The problem is that people, unless they have read the wiki, believe that

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:21:12 +0200 Ruben Maes ruben.mae...@gmail.com wrote: Friday 28 August 2015 19:05:52, Mateusz Konieczny: For example iD - is it clearly indicating that it is about legal status? I am also regularly checking situation in my region and fixing new problem. In English

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:39:45 +0200 Richard ricoz@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 07:05:52PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:52:17 +0200 Anders Fougner anders.foug...@gmail.com wrote: Den 28.08.15 16.56, skrev Mateusz Konieczny: On Fri, 28 Aug

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 07:05:52PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:52:17 +0200 Anders Fougner anders.foug...@gmail.com wrote: Den 28.08.15 16.56, skrev Mateusz Konieczny: On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:15:56 +0200 Anders Fougner anders.foug...@gmail.com wrote: So

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On 28/08/2015 13:15, Anders Fougner wrote: So we should consider replacing the tagging scheme with one which isn't misunderstood so easily. The use of access:foot=*, access:bicycle=* has been proposed at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/access_restrictions_1.5#Namespace

[Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

Hi, as probably most of you are aware of, common access tags such as foot=*, bicycle=* etc. are every often misunderstood by the people contributing to OSM. The problem is that people, unless they have read the wiki, believe that these tags define whether it is _possible_ to walk or cycle

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

Den 28.08.15 14.41, skrev Andy Townsend: On 28/08/2015 13:15, Anders Fougner wrote: So we should consider replacing the tagging scheme with one which isn't misunderstood so easily. The use of access:foot=*, access:bicycle=* has been proposed at

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:15:56 +0200 Anders Fougner anders.foug...@gmail.com wrote: So we should consider replacing the tagging scheme with one which isn't misunderstood so easily. The use of access:foot=*, access:bicycle=* has been proposed at

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

Den 28.08.15 16.56, skrev Mateusz Konieczny: On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:15:56 +0200 Anders Fougner anders.foug...@gmail.com wrote: So we should consider replacing the tagging scheme with one which isn't misunderstood so easily. The use of access:foot=*, access:bicycle=* has been proposed at

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 17:52:17 +0200 Anders Fougner anders.foug...@gmail.com wrote: Den 28.08.15 16.56, skrev Mateusz Konieczny: On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:15:56 +0200 Anders Fougner anders.foug...@gmail.com wrote: So we should consider replacing the tagging scheme with one which isn't

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

sent from a phone Am 28.08.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com: Adding access: will not improve anything as it is still not indicating that it is about legal access. legal_access:bicycle=* would at least give chance that it will be more easily understood (not that

Re: [Tagging] Access tags (general question, but mostly regarding bicycle)

Friday 28 August 2015 19:05:52, Mateusz Konieczny: For example iD - is it clearly indicating that it is about legal status? I am also regularly checking situation in my region and fixing new problem. In English it's called Access. How it's called in other languages depends on the translators.