Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Apr 2018, at 11:08, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > amenity = cafe > operator = Foobar > > We don't have specific tags for other types of operators (public > company private company, sole trader, cooperative, charity, etc); why > would we need one in this case? My tagging

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Marc Gemis
For the case at hand, it's an n.v (naamloze venootschap). A limited company. Says nothing at all about the area in which the company operates. On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > NGO is not the correct term. > The Italian social cooperatives are, normally, small companies. T

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
NGO is not the correct term. The Italian social cooperatives are, normally, small companies. That is much different form NGO [1], I think. In particular they are for-profit businesses. My earlier point was that if you put the operator's name in the "operator" tag, this would, in Italy, normally inc

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread gppes_osm
> for the tag : operator:type=ngo > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type > for the "publicly available" : for the two establishments of this type I > know, being a "outreach project" is a part of the goal. we also go there > to help the project and not just for the poi itself, so

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Marc Gemis
So I will add social_facility=outreach (and hope no-one thinks it is only accessible for people in an outreach group) operator=Foobar operator:type:ngo for now. In case new/better ideas pop-up, feel free to let me know. m. p.s. @Volker: I totally understand your viewpoint. I was wondering mysel

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
Marc, to be clear, if a project clearly advertises it, they indicate they wish it to be known. My point was only to be cautious about adding it without having checked that the project in question wishes this to be known. Unfortunately our society includes all sorts of weird people. I am German and

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 12 April 2018 at 06:23, Marc Gemis wrote: > How do you tag a cafe (or any other amenity) that is run as part of an > outreach project ? amenity = cafe operator = Foobar We don't have specific tags for other types of operators (public company private company, sole trader, cooperative, charity

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread marc marc
for the tag : operator:type=ngo https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type for the "publicly available" : for the two establishments of this type I know, being a "outreach project" is a part of the goal. we also go there to help the project and not just for the poi itself, so it seems

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-04-12 7:23 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis : > How do you tag a cafe (or any other amenity) that is run as part of an > outreach project ? > The cafe is available to everyone, but the employees are part of an > outreach project (e.g. people with disabilities). amenity=cafe social_facility=outreach ?

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Marc Gemis
In both cases I encountered, the website clearly states it: (In Dutch) http://widar.be/widar/beleven/den-bayerd-het-casino/ clearly states "people with an handicap" https://www.mechelen.be/eetcafe-t-ass-2 It mentions people with a form of autism (it is worded more nicely in Dutch) there is noth

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
This is a tricky issue. I expect not all of them to be happy to publicise that fact. We have here in Italy many businesses or amenities that are run by social cooperatives [1] that employ people with special needs. From the Wikipedia article it seems that similar forms are common in Belgium. In It

[Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-11 Thread Marc Gemis
How do you tag a cafe (or any other amenity) that is run as part of an outreach project ? The cafe is available to everyone, but the employees are part of an outreach project (e.g. people with disabilities). Thanks in advance m. ___ Tagging mailing lis