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> Am 05.03.2016 um 07:55 schrieb Marc Gemis :
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> Another obsolete tag that is still is "in use" is building=entrance
Although there are some hints it is not so superclear from the wiki that you
shouldn't absolutely use this tag for an entrance:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.or
On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Colin Smale wrote:
> ...and of course that would require a declaration of A is right and B is
> wrong, or at least A is better than B, which will annoy the free-taggers
> who are against all standardisation and normalisation as that potentially
> limits the creativ
...and of course that would require a declaration of A is right and B is
wrong, or at least A is better than B, which will annoy the free-taggers
who are against all standardisation and normalisation as that
potentially limits the creative freedom of mappers who may not even have
been born yet...
That inertia of obsoleted legacy has everything to do with the fact we
discourage mechanical edits. If somebody were to fix all those
building=entrance to become entrance=main on nodes, their changesets would
probably be reverted. So why even bother? It's more fun to map new stuff
than to fix stuff
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Because something has been in existence does not mean it cannot ever be
> changed!
> Consider the power sub station ... that was gradually changed to a new
> tagging scheme.
But it can take years :-(,
1/4 of the sub_station/su
On 4/03/2016 8:58 PM, Marc Gemis wrote:
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
Here in Chiang Mai motorcycle rental shops are common as well. Rentals from
a motorcycle dealer are not.
Don't know much about motorcycles, but for caravans or campers it is
not unusual that you can
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
> Here in Chiang Mai motorcycle rental shops are common as well. Rentals from
> a motorcycle dealer are not.
Don't know much about motorcycles, but for caravans or campers it is
not unusual that you can rent one in a shop. Although there are
On 03/03/2016 18:24, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Also from a linguistic point of view, "sales" is not chosen
extraordinarily well, it sounds like "bargain sale"/"clearance sale"
or am I over interpreting this?
Yes, you're over thinking it. When you sell something, you make a sale,
do it again
Here in Chiang Mai motorcycle rental shops are common as well. Rentals from
a motorcycle dealer are not.
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> > Am 04.03.2016 um 08:58 schrieb Simon Poole :
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> > - pure motorcycle rental places are very very rar
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> Am 04.03.2016 um 08:58 schrieb Simon Poole :
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> - pure motorcycle rental places are very very rare (pls don't assume
> that it is the same as with cars), at least I and I suspect most other
> bikers are likely to search for dealerships and then check if they
> provide rent
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Marc Gemis wrote:
> While I don't want to defend the scheme of the preset (you should
> contact the author of the preset on why he/she choose that scheme),
> there are some benefits with that schema.
> With this schema I only need 1 query shop=motorcycle + rental=y
Two observations
- the motorcycle preset in its present form (well with the exception of
an improvement from yours truly) exists since at least JOSM 3498 6 years
ago ... debating the motivations of whoever added the sale key is rather
moot at this point in time.
- pure motorcycle rental plac
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
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>> Am 03.03.2016 um 14:41 schrieb Marc Gemis :
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>> I'l agree that when there are separate tags for rental and repair
>> there is no need for sales=no.
>> Only when you try to bring everything under 1 umbrella the sales=no makes
>> sense
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> I don't see why a place to rent motorcycles should be tagged in a way that
> facilitates confusion with a place that sells motorcycles. Why would you do
> this? People look either for the first or the second but almost never they
> don'
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> Am 03.03.2016 um 14:41 schrieb Marc Gemis :
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> I'l agree that when there are separate tags for rental and repair
> there is no need for sales=no.
> Only when you try to bring everything under 1 umbrella the sales=no makes
> sense.
I don't see why a place to rent motorcyc
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:41 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> 2016-03-03 13:21 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :
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>> In combination with service=yes or rental=yes, sale/sells=no makes
>> sense, not ?
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> if it is a service station, I'd map it like this, or shop=motorcycle_repair
> in analogy to the ve
Is there nothing for motorcycle clothing? Leathers, boots, gloves,
helmets... That doesn't immediately appear to fall under m_parts,
m_rental or m_repair.
--colin
On 2016-03-03 14:25, Dave Swarthout wrote:
>> Rather than introducing new tags via editor presets people should "discuss"
>> new t
>Rather than introducing new tags via editor presets people should
"discuss" new tags (e.g. by dropping a note on the tagging ML),
+1 I agree totally. But the sale tag is there in the Preset already - how
did that happen? The Wiki page tells us that sale refers to the fact that
"whole" motorcycles
2016-03-03 13:21 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis :
> In combination with service=yes or rental=yes, sale/sells=no makes
> sense, not ?
>
if it is a service station, I'd map it like this, or shop=motorcycle_repair
in analogy to the very established shop=car_repair
http://taginfo.osm.org/tags/shop=car_repai
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
wrote:
> How many motorcycle shops do not sell something?
In combination with service=yes or rental=yes, sale/sells=no makes
sense, not ? In case the shop=motorcycle has to be used for places
where you can only rent or have your motorcycle repa
2016-03-03 8:35 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout :
> For example, I agree "sells" would be a better tag than "sale" but sale is
> already present in the JOSM preset.
Well, then remove it and change it to "sells:" ;-)
Have a look at the current usage of "sale":
http://taginfo.osm.org/keys/sale#values
w
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> Am 03.03.2016 um 02:23 schrieb Dave Swarthout :
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> the wording in the Wiki is followed then this tag means the shop sells "whole
> motorcycles" (as opposed to pieces of motorcycles) of a certain brand. Fine,
> but the brand tag in the main section of the preset already sp
@Warin,
Thanks for your reply. While I may agree with you on some of this my
question has more to do with understanding the tagging scheme that's in
place and how it came to be there rather than trying to change it to
something different. For example, I agree "sells" would be a better tag
than "sa
On 3/03/2016 12:23 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote:
I recently discovered a preset in JOSM that should help in my work,
shop=motorcycle (See:Presets/Transport/Motorcycle/Motorcycle Dealer in
JOSM rel 9900). It is very detailed and would seem to cover every
possible aspect of such shops from clothing
I recently discovered a preset in JOSM that should help in my work,
shop=motorcycle (See:Presets/Transport/Motorcycle/Motorcycle Dealer in JOSM
rel 9900). It is very detailed and would seem to cover every possible
aspect of such shops from clothing and accessories to service. But it uses
some tags
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