Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-05 Thread bkil
Thank you for bringing street_vendor=* to my attention. I've been looking for something like this for some time now. On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 11:33 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > 2 May 2019, 21:55 by amilopow...@u-cloud.ch: > > surface=whispering_asphalt or surface=silent_asphalt > > Please

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 3. Mai 2019 um 10:44 Uhr schrieb Peter Elderson : > I would not map a noise level value for any surface. a. It's not the > surface that produces the noise; b. it's a relative value, but compared to > what? You would need/assume a standard regular noise value for comparison; > c. the

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
2 May 2019, 21:55 by amilopow...@u-cloud.ch: > surface=whispering_asphalt or surface=silent_asphalt > Please avoid fragmenting surface tag. > Then I found on Overpass-Turbo someone that tagged "asphalt:type=porous". > Something like that would be preferable if it is mappable. In general,

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-03 Thread Peter Elderson
I would not map a noise level value for any surface. a. It's not the surface that produces the noise; b. it's a relative value, but compared to what? You would need/assume a standard regular noise value for comparison; c. the standard will change over time, making all mapped values wrong. I'm

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 2. May 2019, at 23:11, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > I'd rather propose surface=asphalt asphalt=whisper or the like. > > asphalt:type would also be okay with me. There are more likely 100s of types > of asphalt. I also would not introduce a new surface value, it is still

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-02 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 07:53, Paul Allen wrote: > If we need this tag (I have my doubts) then the only sane way of handling > that would be > something like noise_reduction_db=* where the figure is relative to a > "normal" surface > (e.g., smooth concrete) measured at some specified distance. >

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-02 Thread Peter Elderson
Whenever the quali ...-reducing is used, I know the stuff or thing actually produces ... where ... is bad. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 2 mei 2019 om 23:52 heeft Paul Allen het volgende > geschreven: > >> On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 22:43, Tobias Wrede wrote: > >> I would question to use any

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-02 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Well, one use case would be for property shoppers to find an area with the quieter asphalt. But yes, all this is a bit far fetched. On the other hand, I do not want to restrict people from mapping whatever interesting information they know, as long as that information is in standardized-ish

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-02 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 22:43, Tobias Wrede wrote: > I would question to use any qualification at all. Whatever is now called > a quiet/whispering/noise reducing asphalt will have become a standard in > a couple of years and then a new type even more noise reducing will have > been invented. Will

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-02 Thread Tobias Wrede
Am 02.05.2019 um 23:23 schrieb Yuri Astrakhan: I don't think we should do asphalt classification -- too difficult for many cases, and very little value, especially in this case because it is not the "type" of asphalt, it is rather a "feature" of asphalt. Multiple features could exist in the

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-02 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 22:24, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > or it could have solar panels integrated into it > Yes, roads with integrated solar panels have been proposed. Any rational engineering analysis comes to the conclusion that this is a very, very stupid idea for many reasons. Nevertheless,

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-02 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
I don't think we should do asphalt classification -- too difficult for many cases, and very little value, especially in this case because it is not the "type" of asphalt, it is rather a "feature" of asphalt. Multiple features could exist in the same asphalt - e.g. it could have noise-canceling

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-02 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 07:55:40PM +, amilopow...@u-cloud.ch wrote: > Hello > > I used to live in Fribourg, Switzerland where they put "whispering > asphalt" on one of the main roads in order to prevent noise. You can > barely hear an EV now, but that is another story. > > Since we have

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-02 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 20:57, wrote: > > I used to live in Fribourg, Switzerland where they put "whispering > asphalt" on one of the main roads in order to prevent noise. You can barely > hear an EV now, but that is another story. > > Since we have quite a lot of discussions about noise pollution

Re: [Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-02 Thread Tod Fitch
I have not heard of “whispering asphalt” but I know that in some areas of the state I live in they have been using a porous asphalt on roads to provide better traction during rain storms. So I am not sure if the current uses of “asphalt:type=porous” would be to indicate pavement designed for

[Tagging] Whispering asphalt

2019-05-02 Thread amilopowers
Hello I used to live in Fribourg, Switzerland where they put "whispering asphalt" on one of the main roads in order to prevent noise. You can barely hear an EV now, but that is another story. Since we have quite a lot of discussions about noise pollution I thought it might be a good idea to