Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 10:16:12 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Does 'intermittent' still apply to a 50 or 100 year cycle ? > > I would say YES! > > I think the OSM wiki is wrong in putting the word "seasonal" as a > qualifier to the tag intermittent! > Seasonal things should be tagg

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-01 Thread Warin
On 1/10/2015 5:51 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: According to what I found "intermittent" is not excluding regular changes - see for example "Intermittent streams flow seasonally in response to snowmelt and/or elevated groundwater tables resulting from increased periods of precipitation and/or dec

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-01 Thread Warin
Mateusz Konieczny has reverted the changes I made to the wiki page ... It again now says that irregular=regular. Thanks ... black=white too. -- Tell us .. what tag would you use for a stream that flows randomly .. say on average once every 3 yea

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 21:52:11 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > It again now says that irregular=regular. > > Thanks ... black=white too. Where? > Tell us .. what tag would you use for a stream that flows randomly .. > say on average once every 3 years ? > Of course it may not flow fo

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 21:03:15 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 1/10/2015 5:51 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > According to what I found "intermittent" is not excluding regular > > changes - see for example "Intermittent streams flow seasonally in > > response to snowmelt and/or e

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-01 Thread John Willis
Intermittant= is present irregularly. Larger objects tend to exist for longer than smaller objects. Smaller objects usually appear and reappear more frequently, but this frequency, overall is random. Seasonal = present only during a certain time or times on the yearly cycle of the earth's jou

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 02.10.2015 um 07:14 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > At the moment the 'intermittent' wiki says; > In Description: Indicates that waterway or water body is intermittent > (seasonal) > In Key:intermittent: Or that a water body (lake) disappears seasonally. > The

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:14:55 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > At the moment the 'intermittent' wiki says; > > In Description:/Indicates that waterway or water body is intermittent > (seasonal) / > > In Key:intermittent:/Or that a water body (lake) disappears > seasonally./ > > The us

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:14:55 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > At the moment the 'intermittent' wiki says; > > In Description:/Indicates that waterway or water body is intermittent > (seasonal) / > > In Key:intermittent:/Or that a water body (lake) disappears > seasonally./ > > The us

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-02 Thread Steve Doerr
On 02/10/2015 08:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 02.10.2015 um 07:14 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com >: At the moment the 'intermittent' wiki says; In Description:/Indicates that waterway or water body is intermittent (seasonal) / In Key:intermittent:/Or

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-02 Thread Warin
Slowly getting to a conclusion :-) On 2/10/2015 7:50 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:14:55 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: At the moment the 'intermittent' wiki says; In Description:/Indicates that waterway or water body is intermittent (seasonal) / In Key:inter

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-02 Thread johnw
> On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > suggests replacement of > waterway=wadi and waterway=drystream > with > waterway=river or stream This is idiotic. I’m going to start tagging Interstate 5 in San Diego as an intermittent river that just happens to be a mo

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 13:14:15 +0900 johnw wrote: > > > On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > suggests replacement of > > waterway=wadi and waterway=drystream > > with > > waterway=river or stream > This is idiotic. > > I’m going to start tagging Interstate

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-02 Thread Warin
On 3/10/2015 4:23 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 13:14:15 +0900 johnw wrote: On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: suggests replacement of waterway=wadi and waterway=drystream with waterway=river or stream This is idiotic. I’m going to start tagg

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 03.10.2015 um 08:38 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > but on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waterway > "It has been recommended to stop using this tag. Use a combination of > waterway=river and intermittent=yes instead." > > Looks like that has been th

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 10:05:57 +0200 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > Am 03.10.2015 um 08:38 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > > > but on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waterway > > "It has been recommended to stop using this tag. Use a combination > > o

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 16:38:52 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 3/10/2015 4:23 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 13:14:15 +0900 > > johnw wrote: > > > >>> On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> suggests replacement of > >>> wate

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 21:50:56 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Prior to April 2014 the wiki for intermittent had no reference to > >> 'seasonal' in its description. > > And I would not be against removing them. I am only against > > restricting intermittent=yes to random lack of water

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-03 Thread johnw
> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Where wiki recommends converting all waterway=wadi to waterway=river or > stream with intermittent=yes? > > On http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dwadi > there is >

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-03 Thread Warin
On 3/10/2015 6:51 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 21:50:56 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Prior to April 2014 the wiki for intermittent had no reference to 'seasonal' in its description. And I would not be against removing them. I am only against restricting intermi

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 03.10.2015 um 10:37 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny : > > On 13 March 2015 it was 18 343, so there is a noticeable trend. by looking at the map it seems someone has cleaned up the Americas, there's not a single one remaining cheers Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-03 Thread Warin
On 3/10/2015 6:41 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 16:38:52 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 3/10/2015 4:23 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 13:14:15 +0900 johnw wrote: On Oct 2, 2015, at 2:14 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: suggests rep

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 03.10.2015 um 11:14 schrieb johnw : > > The people who live with washes and wadis call them washes and wadis and > representing them in OSM as a river is ignoring regional conventions and > trying to shoehorn temperate ideas into desert tagging. And rendering them > li

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-03 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I will respond to other parts later. On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 21:58:25 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Again: Intermittent does not mean seasonal. I never claimed this. AFAIK nobody claimed that. What is the point of repeating it? ___ Tagging m

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-03 Thread Warin
On 3/10/2015 10:37 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Am 03.10.2015 um 11:14 schrieb johnw : The people who live with washes and wadis call them washes and wadis and representing them in OSM as a river is ignoring regional conventions and trying to shoehorn temperate ideas int

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-03 Thread Warin
On 4/10/2015 5:29 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I will respond to other parts later. On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 21:58:25 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Again: Intermittent does not mean seasonal. I never claimed this. AFAIK nobody claimed that. What is the point of repeating it? Because

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 08:37:54 +1100 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 4/10/2015 5:29 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I will respond to other parts later. > > > > On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 21:58:25 +1000 > > Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Again: Intermittent does not mean seasonal. >

Re: [Tagging] intermittent vs seasonal

2015-10-06 Thread Warin
On 6/10/2015 9:48 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 08:37:54 +1100 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 4/10/2015 5:29 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I will respond to other parts later. On Sat, 3 Oct 2015 21:58:25 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Again: Intermitten