On Fri, 2 Oct 2015 15:14:55 +1000 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> At the moment the 'intermittent' wiki says; > > In Description:/Indicates that waterway or water body is intermittent > (seasonal) / > > In Key:intermittent:/Or that a water body (lake) disappears > seasonally./ > > The use of seasonal here limits it to things that have a yearly cycle. > > > I would rather remove the 'seasonal' references .. something like > > In Description:/Indicates that waterway or water body is > intermittent./ I agree with remove of "seasonal" > One could add the word/irregular/ or/random/ in brackets if > helpfull? I disagree. Waterway where water is missing with some regularity is stil intermittent. > But intermittent does not imply seasonal to me and at least some > others. I completely agree. Waterway may be intermittent without making it seasonal. intermittent=yes do not imply seasonal=yes. > >> Given the weather does not conform that well to the 'season's .. > >> I'd be more inclined to leave off the seasonal tag. > > It depends on location. > > NO. It should depend on the features characteristic. But I think we > agree here. My "it depends on location" applied to "given the weather does not conform that well to the 'season's". > Prior to April 2014 the wiki for intermittent had no reference to > 'seasonal' in its description. And I would not be against removing them. I am only against restricting intermittent=yes to random lack of water. Stream that disappears every summer IMHO should be tagged as [waterway=stream, intermittent=yes, seasonal=yes]. In case that using intermittent for "waterway does not have a permanent flow/waterbody does not have a permanent presence" is clearly bad we need tag is needed to cover this information. > I would say > > "/In case of waterways or lakes becoming dry on specific times of > year the key" //seasonal > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:seasonal>=* > <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:seasonal%3Dyes&action=edit&redlink=1>//. > should be used alone, not with the > key:intermittent.////Example:////waterway=stream////name=sample////seasonal=summer//////The > stream "sample" only flows in the summer season./" Why? What is reasoning for this? > Looking at the wider wiki too ! > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waterway > > suggests replacement of > > waterway=wadi and waterway=drystream > > with > > waterway=river or stream > > and > > intermittent=yes. > > The wiki for > > waterway=wadi suggests (presently) using intermittent for seasonal! > > waterway=drystream ...errr arr yes.. also suggests using intermittent > for seasonal. Seasonal waterways by definition have no permanent flow. Current practise is to tag such waterway as intermittent=yes. Is there a really good reason to invent a new tag to convey this information and deprecate current meaning of intermittent=yes (that is used over 900k times, with some data consumers already using it)? _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
