[Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-06 Thread marc marc
Hello, in our operation to fix campsite errors, there are several cases of refugee camps. some have temporarily abused tourism=camp_site to get a rendering and be able to use standard applications (I can understand, lives are impacted), but after a few years after the first use, we should find som

[Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-10 Thread Jan S
> > On 6/6/2019 5:27 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > >>* I'd suggest something like social_facility=temporary_housing. > *>>>* To me, social_facility doesn't quite cut it for "refugees". Refugees > *>* strike me as people fleeing from war / massive natural disaster - > *>* social_facility comes

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-06 Thread Jmapb
On 6/6/2019 12:58 PM, marc marc wrote: Hello, in our operation to fix campsite errors, there are several cases of refugee camps. some have temporarily abused tourism=camp_site to get a rendering and be able to use standard applications (I can understand, lives are impacted), but after a few year

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 03:00, marc marc wrote: > > 2 examples that I think are fine > amenity=refugee_housing > place=refugee_camp > IMO either of those would work > 3 others examples > tourism=camp_site + refugee=yes but it's not a tourism feature > Definitely not > idp:camp_site=* but no m

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-07 Thread Jan S
Am 6. Juni 2019 23:27:37 MESZ schrieb Graeme Fitzpatrick : >On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 at 04:34, Jmapb wrote: > >> >> There are 40 instances of social_facility=refugee_camp, and 18 of >> social_facility=refugee_housing. >> For the primary tag you could go with social_facility=group_home or >> social_fa

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-07 Thread Jmapb
On 6/6/2019 5:27 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I'd suggest something like social_facility=temporary_housing. To me, social_facility doesn't quite cut it for "refugees". Refugees strike me as people fleeing from war / massive natural disaster - social_facility comes across as small scale fo

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-07 Thread marc marc
Le 07.06.19 à 15:56, Jan S a écrit : > What's decisive is the vocation of the facility and even before that, is there a facility at all ? because there is a big difference between 1) people who fled the war and stopped "elsewhere", then sometimes helped by ngo to survive and 2) a country/city/ngo

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-10 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I understand why refugee camps have been mapped with amenity=social_facility - it's the closest existing tag, since tourism=camp_site is clearly wrong and landuse=residential isn't quite right. However, I don't think that large refugee camps are a perfect fit for amenity=social_facility. Most of

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-10 Thread Phake Nick
If you look at it from a temporary residence for the group of people perspective, then I guess tags like place=village/town/neighbourhood could be better choices? 在 2019年6月10日週一 20:18,Joseph Eisenberg 寫道: > I understand why refugee camps have been mapped with > amenity=social_facility - it's the

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-10 Thread Dave Swarthout
The refugee camps I'm familiar with in Thailand are not social facilities except in an incidental way. They are essentially internment camps surrounded by fences with guarded gates where undocumented aliens are kept. They are landuse=residential because they're isolated areas in the countryside and

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-11 Thread Jan S
Am 10. Juni 2019 22:05:53 MESZ schrieb Dave Swarthout : >The refugee camps I'm familiar with in Thailand are not social >facilities >except in an incidental way. They are essentially internment camps >surrounded by fences with guarded gates where undocumented aliens are >kept. >They are landuse=r

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-11 Thread Violaine_Do
Hi, Did you think about adding refugee=yes tag on place=* ? There were also an idea, if you have the boundary to develop rules around boundary, similar to boundary = administrative to boundary=refugee see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Refugee_Camp_Boundaries I also t

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-11 Thread Dave Swarthout
I did not add a refugee=yes tag. I tagged it as a place=town because my quick search for alternatives came up empty and there are about 50,000 people living there. That way, at least the camp name shows up on maps and is searchable. I'll retag it based on what we decide here. On Tue, Jun 11, 2019

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Jun 2019, at 05:21, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > I did not add a refugee=yes tag. I tagged it as a place=town because my quick > search for alternatives came up empty and there are about 50,000 people > living there. That way, at least the camp name shows up on maps a

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-12 Thread Violaine_Do
As wikipedia (1) seems to say refugee camp implies internally displaced people it seem ok to me. (i was wondering if IDP was a type of refugees or different) Maybe add a refugee_camp:for=refugee/idp..., refugee_camp:type= informal/... I still want to point out that there is more than 2500 use

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-13 Thread marc marc
Le 11.06.19 à 22:06, Violaine_Do a écrit : > boundary=refugee see > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Refugee_Camp_Boundaries I agree with a boundary= because boundary=administrative is wrong when it'sn't a administrative boundary but it's the same issue with admin_level, u

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-19 Thread Jan S
I think that we basically have to distinguish between two types of migrant or refugee camps. On the one hand there are established camps that have developed an urban structure, with shops, services etc. People often live in these camps over long periods of time (in case of the Palestinians even se

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-19 Thread Violaine_Do
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Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-19 Thread Warin
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Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-06-19 Thread Violaine_Do
d online access, I will monitor and comment more next week, once back online proper. Best, Rupert On Wed, 12 Jun 2019, 21:45 Violaine, <mailto:viola...@posteo.net>> wrote: fyi, i think you could help on this discussion... Forwarded Message ---- Subject:Re: [T

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp

2019-09-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Sent from a phone > Am 20.06.2019 um 02:18 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > It is a land use, residential .. at least on a temporary basis. possibly > landuse=residential, residential=migrants? Sorry for replying late, just found this draft and sending it for the archives: I would gen

Re: [Tagging] refugee camp boundaries [was:Re: refugee camp]

2019-06-19 Thread Violaine_Do
Hi, Thks Marc, I also like boundary=refugee_camp and camp_level=* with 1 for camp boundary, 2 for first division such as zone, 3 for second division such as sector, and 4 for 3rd division such as bloc. Or can we start from 0 there, would make more sense camp_level=1 for first admin division.