Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 22 March 2017 at 18:53, Dave Swarthout wrote: > You might use waterway as the main tag to prevent confusion with the > top-level tag of water=* > > Either waterway=pool (TagInfo: 26 uses), or waterway=stream_pool, would be > better than water=stream_pool. I still think

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-22 Thread Mark Bradley
> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:24:39 +0100 > From: Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> > To: daveswarth...@gmail.com, "Tag discussion, strategy and related > tools" <tagging@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [Tagging] water=pool > Messag

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22 Mar 2017, at 08:53, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > Either waterway=pool (TagInfo: 26 uses), or waterway=stream_pool, would be > better than water=stream_pool. I would prefer water over waterway as a key, because this is about areas/polygons,

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-22 Thread Dave Swarthout
You might use waterway as the main tag to prevent confusion with the top-level tag of water=* Either waterway=pool (TagInfo: 26 uses), or waterway=stream_pool, would be better than water=stream_pool. I still think it better to avoid using the word stream in the value because then a pool on a

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-22 Thread John Willis
> On Mar 13, 2017, at 5:22 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I'd rather use water=stream_pool without the lake deviation, but then it > still is in conflict with water=river. Are these actual features anyway, or > are they simply the wider parts of the river? +1

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-17 Thread Andrew Harvey
Thanks for all the input. There are mixed viewpoints, but I'm leaning towards using and documenting on the wiki water=stream_pool as "A small and usually deep collection of fresh water, supplied by a spring, or occurring along a stream or river. Water velocity in the pool is typically much lower

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-17 Thread Richard
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:33:13AM +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I agree about the tag water=pool. Potentially very misleading. > > Stream_pool seems okay, or perhaps waterway_pool to avoid a possible > semantic conflict when applying the tag to rivers. Are there plans to add > "riffles" as

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-17 Thread Richard
On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 11:21:17AM +, ael wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:40:24PM +0100, Richard wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 08:24:35PM +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > when using natural=water + water=pool they would become distinct (though > > adjacent) > > water body from the

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 16 Mar 2017, at 00:33, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > I agree about the tag water=pool. Potentially very misleading. for fountains natural=water is/was the suggested tagging for the water surfaces, so any other water tagging will hardly be more

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-15 Thread Mark Bradley
> I think just "water=pool" is a bit short and potentially misleading with > other types of > pools (reflecting pool, swimming pool, salt pool, ...). > As far as I know, all these types of pools are man-made, not natural, so I'm not sure how misleading "water=pool" would be. > If you don't

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-15 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 11 March 2017 at 23:54, Thilo Haug wrote: > in my opinion, this combination is describing it best : > natural=water > water=pond I don't like this, as I feel pond is "more commonly used for places in a park where you find ducks, often with lots of vegetation", and the water

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-14 Thread ael
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 10:40:24PM +0100, Richard wrote: > On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 08:24:35PM +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote: > when using natural=water + water=pool they would become distinct (though > adjacent) > water body from the river/creek which they are part of which is not quite > right. >

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-14 Thread ael
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 09:39:51PM -0500, John F. Eldredge wrote: > At least in American English, there is an intermediate term, pond, for a > body of water smaller than a lake but larger than a mere wide spot in a > stream. Ponds can be man-made or natural. But in British English, ponds are

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-13 Thread John F. Eldredge
At least in American English, there is an intermediate term, pond, for a body of water smaller than a lake but larger than a mere wide spot in a stream. Ponds can be man-made or natural. On March 13, 2017 4:19:47 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2017-03-13 10:13

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-13 Thread Richard
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 08:24:35PM +1100, Andrew Harvey wrote: > I'm looking for a tag for "A small and rather deep collection of (usually) > fresh water, as one supplied by a spring, or occurring in the course of a > stream;" https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pool#English also like >

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-03-13 10:13 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > If (when, in Australia) the river stops flowing, these pools become a > water oasis for all. > And if the pool dries up you can dig there for water, if needed. > so where's the distinction to lake? How much is the water flow reduced

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-13 Thread Warin
On 13-Mar-17 07:22 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 12 Mar 2017, at 16:35, althio wrote: Otherwise, if I cannot convince you with that alone, at least expand to "stream_pool", like: natural=water water=lake lake=stream_pool I'd rather use

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12 Mar 2017, at 16:35, althio wrote: > > Otherwise, if I cannot convince you with that alone, at least expand > to "stream_pool", like: > > natural=water > water=lake > lake=stream_pool I'd rather use water=stream_pool without the lake

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12 Mar 2017, at 16:35, althio wrote: > > > If you don't need a new tag, I would go for > natural=water > water=lake > (and let the size and position of the feature show that it is a small > body of water on a river) > After all, it is a kind of

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-12 Thread muzirian
water=pool looks like a good suggestion and better candidate for deafult water tag too. Regards, Kelvin On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 12:35 AM, ael wrote: > On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 04:35:54PM +0100, althio wrote: > > I think just "water=pool" is a bit short and potentially

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-12 Thread ael
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 04:35:54PM +0100, althio wrote: > I think just "water=pool" is a bit short and potentially misleading > with other types of pools (reflecting pool, swimming pool, salt pool, > ...). > In British English, there is no chance of confusion. All the above are pools, just with

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-12 Thread althio
I think just "water=pool" is a bit short and potentially misleading with other types of pools (reflecting pool, swimming pool, salt pool, ...). If you don't need a new tag, I would go for natural=water water=lake (and let the size and position of the feature show that it is a small body of water

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-11 Thread ael
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 01:54:07PM +0100, Thilo Haug wrote: > > in my opinion, this combination is describing it best : > natural=water > water=pond As a native English speaker, these are not ponds. Pools are the natural description, as already suggested. So just add natural=water, water=pool

Re: [Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-11 Thread Thilo Haug
Hi Andrew, in my opinion, this combination is describing it best : natural=water water=pond in case it's man_made , it should be tagged like this. (the person who wrote "man-made in most cases" possibly talks about the central park ;-) )

[Tagging] water=pool

2017-03-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
I'm looking for a tag for "A small and rather deep collection of (usually) fresh water, as one supplied by a spring, or occurring in the course of a stream;" https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pool#English also like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_pool. They come in all shapes and sizes but are