RE: [dbtags] SOLVED: Strange behavior since switching to Tomcat 4.1.1 2

2002-10-15 Thread Shawn Bayern
Tomcat 4.0.4 (and any Tomcat 4.x) supports JSP 1.2, and on JSP 1.2, you should use doFinally() to clear any invocation-specific state. Shawn On 15 Oct 2002, Felipe Schnack wrote: > Yes, but probably I'll have doFinally only when I migrate to tomcat > 4.1.12 right? Right now I'm using tomcat 4

Re: [dbtags] SOLVED: Strange behavior since switching to Tomcat 4.1.1 2

2002-10-15 Thread Glenn Nielsen
Shawn Bayern wrote: > On 15 Oct 2002, Felipe Schnack wrote: > > >>i don't know, but in my opinion, we shouldn't call release() at every >>doEndTag(), but we should clean, for instance, tag attributes and these >>such things. > > > To reiterate, you should not reset tag attribute values in do

RE: [dbtags] SOLVED: Strange behavior since switching to Tomcat 4.1.1 2

2002-10-15 Thread Felipe Schnack
Yes, but probably I'll have doFinally only when I migrate to tomcat 4.1.12 right? Right now I'm using tomcat 4.0.4, I want the 4.1.x to become more stable before I upgrade my systems. I just want to keep my taglibs as much compliant as they can be with these versions... what you gurus suggest

Implicit PageContext argument for EL fucntions (was RE: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP 2)

2002-10-15 Thread Gideon, Thomas
+1 I think this is an excellent suggestion. Thomas Gideon Sr. Software Developer B2eMarkets 301.230.2236 Tel. 301.230.2248 Fax. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.B2eMarkets.com > -Original Message- > From: Christopher Lenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:21 PM > To

RE: Shortest date format

2002-10-15 Thread Martin Cooper
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 8:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Shortest date format > > > Hi > > Is there any chance that JSTL could get a date format that's > even shorter > than "short"? I mean

Re: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP 2

2002-10-15 Thread Christopher Lenz
On a somewhat related note, I've been wondering if the EL-functions as discussed here shouldn't have an implicit pageContext argument. For instance, if the TLD specified a function like: isUserInRole mypkg.MyFunctions boolean isUserInRole(PageContext, String)

RE: [dbtags] SOLVED: Strange behavior since switching to Tomcat 4.1.1 2

2002-10-15 Thread Shawn Bayern
On 15 Oct 2002, Felipe Schnack wrote: > i don't know, but in my opinion, we shouldn't call release() at every > doEndTag(), but we should clean, for instance, tag attributes and these > such things. To reiterate, you should not reset tag attribute values in doEndTag(). doEndTag() should hardly

RE: [dbtags] SOLVED: Strange behavior since switching to Tomcat 4.1.1 2

2002-10-15 Thread Felipe Schnack
hmmm... i don't know, but in my opinion, we shouldn't call release() at every doEndTag(), but we should clean, for instance, tag attributes and these such things. If you clean everything a tag uses in its lifecycle, you're throwing away most of the advantage of tag reuse On Tue, 2002-10-15 a

Re: [dbtags] SOLVED: Strange behavior since switching to Tomcat 4.1.1 2

2002-10-15 Thread Hans Bergsten
Halvorson, Loren wrote: > Hans, > > I just had a look at the dbtags source and see why it worked. The release() > method was already being called manually within most of the doEndTag() > methods. Unfortunately their release() wasn't doing a complete job because > it failed to call super.release(

RE: [dbtags] SOLVED: Strange behavior since switching to Tomcat 4.1.1 2

2002-10-15 Thread Halvorson, Loren
Hans, I just had a look at the dbtags source and see why it worked. The release() method was already being called manually within most of the doEndTag() methods. Unfortunately their release() wasn't doing a complete job because it failed to call super.release(). Example from ResultSetTag.java

RE: [dbtags] SOLVED: Strange behavior since switching to Tomcat 4.1.1 2

2002-10-15 Thread Halvorson, Loren
Adding super.release() solved it for me for both Tomcat 4.1.12 and WebLogic 6.1 SP2. I didn't delve deep into the lifecycle of each tag, but this fix seemed to be exactly what the tags need. So any takers? --Loren -Original Message- From: Hans Bergsten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: [dbtags] SOLVED: Strange behavior since switching to Tomcat 4.1.12

2002-10-15 Thread Hans Bergsten
Halvorson, Loren wrote: > OK I think I have a handle on what is wrong with the dbtags. > > Almost every tag forgets to call super.release() In their release() method. > This doesn't cause any problems if your container doesn't recycle tags. > > public void release() { > super.release(); <

[dbtags] SOLVED: Strange behavior since switching to Tomcat 4.1.12

2002-10-15 Thread Halvorson, Loren
OK I think I have a handle on what is wrong with the dbtags. Almost every tag forgets to call super.release() In their release() method. This doesn't cause any problems if your container doesn't recycle tags. public void release() { super.release(); <--- this needs to be added _positi

Re: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP 2

2002-10-15 Thread Shawn Bayern
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Stefan wrote: > Is it the eventual aim to eliminate the use of the in > JSP, replacing them with taglibs? It's hard to answer that question in general. From my perspective, there's little reason to use as of JSTL 1.0, though there are exceptions: is useful to instantiat

Re: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP 2

2002-10-15 Thread Stefan
Is it the eventual aim to eliminate the use of the in JSP, replacing them with taglibs? Stef - Original Message - From: "Shawn Bayern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:10 PM Subject: Re: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP

RE: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP 2

2002-10-15 Thread Martin Cooper
> -Original Message- > From: Hans Bergsten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:26 PM > To: Tag Libraries Users List > Subject: Re: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP 2 > > > Martin Cooper wrote: > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Hans Bergsten [mailto:[EMAIL

[dbtags] Strange behavior since switching to Tomcat 4.1.12

2002-10-15 Thread Halvorson, Loren
Here's a little more information on the tag pooling problem we are having with dbtags under Tomcat 4.1.12. I thought I'd try a work around that avoided the statement and query tags altogether and just do them manually. Now the second resultSet iterates and outputs all of the items from the _first

Re: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP 2

2002-10-15 Thread Shawn Bayern
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Wolfgang Röckelein wrote: > I see that, too. JSP/JSTL/EL is DO and not OO. However, the decision > remains how to deal with user input submissions which usually require > some action (if it is not merely a change in a display format etc., > but e.g. a new entry, a changed ord

[dbtags] Strange behavior since switching to Tomcat 4.1.12

2002-10-15 Thread Halvorson, Loren
We are seeing some strange behavior from dbtags since we switched to Tomcat 4.1.12. I'm pretty sure it's related to the new tag pooling feature of Tomcat. I am wondering if anyone else is having problems. If we have two statements on the same page, where the first one returns rows, but the secon

Re: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP 2

2002-10-15 Thread Wolfgang Röckelein
Hi, just adding my cents... Gideon, Thomas wrote: > Maybe it's just me but I don't see JSP as intrinsically OO. Even if one > tries to cram them, incorrectly in my mind, into the category of a 4GL > technology. JSP as it relates to HTML, and even to a large extent XML, is > about document orie

RE: Shortest date format

2002-10-15 Thread Felipe Schnack
mm/dd have no logic not to mention the metric system stuff :-))) On Tue, 2002-10-15 at 13:40, Jon Archer wrote: > > And frankly, I don't think I should code this by hand (the English having > > mm/dd, most others having dd/mm) when usually gives me > > all I need > > Eric, (and I apologise

RE: Shortest date format

2002-10-15 Thread Jon Archer
> And frankly, I don't think I should code this by hand (the English having > mm/dd, most others having dd/mm) when usually gives me > all I need Eric, (and I apologise in advance that this is no help whatsover) I thought you ought to know that the English (and the British too ;-) use dd/mm, it'

Shortest date format

2002-10-15 Thread Eric . Lewis
Hi Is there any chance that JSTL could get a date format that's even shorter than "short"? I mean that I need the date just to be the day and the month. And frankly, I don't think I should code this by hand (the English having mm/dd, most others having dd/mm) when usually gives me all I need :-)

RE: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP 2

2002-10-15 Thread Gideon, Thomas
Maybe it's just me but I don't see JSP as intrinsically OO. Even if one tries to cram them, incorrectly in my mind, into the category of a 4GL technology. JSP as it relates to HTML, and even to a large extent XML, is about document oriented processing. I just don't see why you would want method

Re: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP 2

2002-10-15 Thread V. Cekvenich
With methods... one could say object.do() (and do OO) as oposed to do(Object). The guide line for OO is noun.verb(). I wish it was methods. Shawn Bayern wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, James Cook wrote: > > >>I wonder why the unnecessary complication here? If they are going to >>use reflection a

RE: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP 2

2002-10-15 Thread Shawn Bayern
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, James Cook wrote: > I wonder why the unnecessary complication here? If they are going to > use reflection anyway, why subject the users to creating these extra > xml fragments. A nickname hardly seems worth it, and adding another > point where a slight syntax problem in an XM

Re: odd

2002-10-15 Thread Shawn Bayern
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Shawn wrote: > xx<%= > currentRow_questions.get("numb") %>  > > currentRow_questions is a scripting variable (hashtable) in DbForms > (open source rad). > > However the c:out value was incorrect. Am I just an idiot who can't > do simple things correctly or is something go

Re: Passing taglibs into bean methods.

2002-10-15 Thread Stefan
Hi, Sometimes I make the easiest problems hard. I was able to resolve the issue today but just using some Thanks, Stef - Original Message - From: "Stefan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tag Libraries Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:48 AM Subject: Re:

RE: Beefing up JSTL EL in JSP 2

2002-10-15 Thread James Cook
I wonder why the unnecessary complication here? If they are going to use reflection anyway, why subject the users to creating these extra xml fragments. A nickname hardly seems worth it, and adding another point where a slight syntax problem in an XML document can cause additional time deploying a