Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
That depends on the deal with APH. But they'll probably just eventually replace Magic with ZoomText. Just like with Window-Eyes there's no practical reason for them to maintain two magnifiers. Magic is probably already on death row allowing only critical updates while ZoomText is actively devel

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Oh Sure. That's right. But what about the Magic and JAWS student editions? Magic was used in Colombia with JAWS,and APH and FS launched student copies of JAWS and Magic. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Sunda

Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
VFO bought AI Squared for two reasons. 1. To replace their useless Magic magnifier with the best selling ZoomText. 2. To kill their competition in the screen reading world, Window-Eyes. End of story. Regards, Tom On 8/21/2017 12:14 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: Because their still needs to

Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
According to whom? On 8/21/2017 12:14 AM, Sky Mundell via Talk wrote: > Because their still needs to be improvements made to Window-Eyes, for > example, Edge support, it needs rewritten braille support, it needs > touchscreen support, it needs this and that. > > -Original Message- > Fro

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
They don't care WE is no more. As Aaron said when they announced the discontinuing Of WE it will not work properly with programs etc. especially as time goes on. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Monday, Augus

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Because their still needs to be improvements made to Window-Eyes, for example, Edge support, it needs rewritten braille support, it needs touchscreen support, it needs this and that. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via

Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Why would they? On 8/20/2017 9:22 PM, Debby Franson via Talk wrote: > Hi! > > I wonder if VFO would ever sell the code. > > Debby > > At 12:37 PM 8/20/2017, Dennis Long via Talk wrote >> They won't give code up.  Come on think that through.  What company do >> you >> know that gives code that

Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Debby, The reason for the JAWS runtime in OpenBook is because FS bought OpenBook many years ago. It was probably for a module to be used when running OpenBook with JAWS. Regards, Tom On 8/20/2017 10:00 PM, Debby Franson via Talk wrote: Hi Tom! VFO shouldn't have said they would creat the Wi

Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread David via Talk
Olusegun, and all other "dreamers". First of all, let me second much of what Tom already have told you. Window-Eyes, as well as a number of other software you have come to rely on through the years, have been developed to run on Windows machines. Windows machines have their way, or ways, to do t

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Exactly and it's because of that that Window-Eyes is now destroyed. So FS would say, you can only buy JAWS. You can't use any competing products. You can't do this in other products. You can only do this in JAWS. You can't do this, you can't do that, etc. If you push our products, we'll give you ki

Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
I don't recall the details, but at one time gw offered window-eyes to agencies at a discount and even the rehab folks just wanted to keep doing what they were doing, no interest in what might save the state money or what might be best for their cllients, just what required the lease effort. W

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Lol not at a price we could afford. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Debby Franson via Talk Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:23 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Debby Franson Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume Hi! I wo

Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Debby Franson via Talk
Hi Tom! VFO shouldn't have said they would creat the Window-Eyes keyboard if they didn't want to do it. That's pretty poor of them. When I upgraded to OpenBook 9 in 2012 when I first upgraded to Windows 7, I was snooping in the OpenBook menus and noticed some kind of JAWS runtime. I didn't k

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Debby Franson via Talk
Hi! I wonder if VFO would ever sell the code. Debby At 12:37 PM 8/20/2017, Dennis Long via Talk wrote They won't give code up. Come on think that through. What company do you know that gives code that was a product that was sold for profit to just give it away. -Original Message- Fr

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
I had asked about a keyboard layout and was told they would have to make sure it didn't conflict with other programs like fusion. That was why they didn't do that WE keyboard layout. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via T

Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Butch, Actually, VFO initially promised Doug they would create a Window-Eyes keyboard layout and then they reneged on that promise, which is typical and says a lot about who they are. And yes, their number one priority since day one has been governmental and charitable money money money. I nail

Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Olusegun, In reference to your previous message, no one has cracked JAWS. They're cracking the authorization code scheme. They're not getting access to one line of code for the program. Regarding Office for Android and iOS? Those programs were not ported. The definition of porting a program is

Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
You are so right, Tom. When I was a client in Nevada and for a short time an employee, they pushed Jaws totally. they bought from cross roads, a division of easter seals and those vendors wined and dined the counselors to convince them to buy their products. Of course, if any scripting was

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Tom wrote in part: "It's virtually impossible to crack a big low-level program like Window-Eyes. And even if someone could there's no such thing as porting it over to Android." First, I'll give up on Windows before doing the same with Android. With Android being an open source project, I choose

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Oh no, Sky! The Window-Eyes code should NEVER EVER go to Humanware! That would only give it a chance to serve us OBSOLETE stuff as it does on its BrailleNote Touch. No, I won't want that! I'd rather see it in the open so that someone out of China, India or South Korea can take a GOOD CRACK at m

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Dennis wrote: "They won't give code up. Come on think that through. What company do you know that gives code that was a product that was sold for profit to just give it away." When it comes to CRACKING THE CODE, that doesn't have to come from V F O or whatever name it calls itself! Jaws code i

Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
You're right, Dennis. VFO bought their biggest competitor. They have the code. They're not going to give it or sell it to anyone. It's no different than the countless companies that Apple, Microsoft, Google, and Facebook are constantly buying. They either buy them to kill the competition or be

RE: contacting Doug.

2017-08-20 Thread Debby Franson via Talk
Hi Olusegun! I wish you much success in your Android migration. I have never had a custom scrip/app written for me. I'm not planning on asking VFO with their exorbitant prices to write any for me. Has anyone had a custom app written by GW Micro/AI Squared? I'm just curious how much that cost

Re: contacting Doug.

2017-08-20 Thread Debby Franson via Talk
Hi Loy! No, I agree that the article would not be fair today, but I think this article was posted for historical purposes, not anything about the current day. Debby At 10:25 AM 8/19/2017, Loy via Talk wrote This would not be a air comparison now, Window Eyes progressed much faster than JAWS

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Most likely -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 1:47 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Sky Mundell Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume So they'll keep the code forever.

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
So they'll keep the code forever. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:38 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume They won't g

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
They won't give code up. Come on think that through. What company do you know that gives code that was a product that was sold for profit to just give it away. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Sunday, August

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
They might give the Window-Eyes code up to a company like Humanware. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:04 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Cc: Dennis Long Subject: RE: JAWS Softwa

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
You can do that in Windows7 only difference is press on the volume entry in system tray. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Martha via Talk Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:54 AM To: Steve Nutt; Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Martha Subje

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
I'm pretty sure they own the code. I say this for a few reasons 1 they bought AI Squared and their products. What are their products? WE is one of those. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Sunday, August 20,

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
I hope it does VFO didn't say anything about owning the Window-Eyes code or anything. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:06 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion L

RE: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Olusegun -- Victory Associates LTD, Inc. via Talk
Tom, hopefully I'm not being overtly patronizing especially now that Window-Eyes is dead!! That aside, Window-Eyes is an impressive screen reader whose ageless awareness outshines the sun! Maybe--just maybe--someday, someone will UNSCRAMBLE the Window-Eyes code and PORT IT OVER to Android thus av

Itunes Help

2017-08-20 Thread L Urie via Talk
Hi, Using Windows 10 anniversary edition with the latest version of window-eyes and Itunes 12.6.2.  Is it just me, or are things becoming less and less accessible?  I use to be able to create play lists.  I no longer can do that. Nor can I see the list of albums.  Is there a way of getting a

Re: JAWS Software Synthesizer Volume

2017-08-20 Thread Martha via Talk
Thanks, Ian. I was wondering... On Mon, 22 May 2017 14:22:54 +0100 Steve Nutt via Talk wrote: Hi, But you can, in Windows 10, adjust the volume of JAWS as a whole. Go to System Tray, find your sound card and right click or press applications key, then Open Volume Mixer. Now you will se

Re: contacting Doug.

2017-08-20 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
Yes, window eyes has come a long way sense then. Notice how many screen readers are no longer around sense then? -Original Message- From: Loy via Talk Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2017 8:25 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Cc: Loy Subject: Re: contacting Doug. This would not be a air