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2017-04-07 Thread net bat via Talk
Discussion List Subject: Re: future of WE How did you get it? It's my understanding it will be released next week. -Original Message- From: Loy via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:31 AM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: future of WE Just upgraded to Windows Creato

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2017-04-07 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
How did you get it? It's my understanding it will be released next week. -Original Message- From: Loy via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:31 AM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: future of WE Just upgraded to Windows Creator and Window Eyes is working

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2017-04-07 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
I noticed the same thing? -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 11:24 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: future of WE OK so it seems that the news is that WE will continue to work with the next version of Windows 10. That is good news however n

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2017-04-06 Thread Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
From: Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 8:25 PM To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: future of WE Hi Chris, If you open the Windows Update dialog, there is an option to force the update to install, or you can wait for it to do it itself eventually. I

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2017-04-06 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
It is simple to me, they'll sell it as long as people want it and may or may not sort of support it. I doubt if there will be any future developmentsWhy would they develop two screen readers? Why would you develop two screen readers to work with edge, when your main product which is copy prot

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2017-04-06 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 9:33 PM To: michael's emails ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: future of WE i am going to do just that. I'm going to wait until it appears in Windows update before I insta

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2017-04-06 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
oad on win ten home. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 5:22 AM To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: future of WE may be , may be not. microsoft is allowing this early download but it is not the final autheriz

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2017-04-06 Thread michael's emails via Talk
how are you ment to hold off on the win ten update it will just down load on win ten home. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: net bat via Talk Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 5:22 AM To: Chris Skarstad ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: future of WE may be , may be not

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2017-04-06 Thread Loy via Talk
Microsoft is always releasing bug fixes. In the past once a month. - Original Message - From: Stephen Clark via Talk To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 4:34 PM Subject: Re: future of WE Well, that's funny because I have the

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2017-04-06 Thread Stephen Clark via Talk
From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 12:09 PM To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: future of WE wait. hold on. it's out today? it's only April 6th and it wasn't supposed to be out til later in the month. On 4/6/2017 2:31 PM, Loy via Talk wro

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2017-04-06 Thread net bat via Talk
the bugs that were found within weeks of its final release they had to fix. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad via Talk Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 12:09 PM To: Loy ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: future of WE wait. hold on. it's out today? it's only April

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2017-04-06 Thread Chris Skarstad via Talk
wait. hold on. it's out today? it's only April 6th and it wasn't supposed to be out til later in the month. On 4/6/2017 2:31 PM, Loy via Talk wrote: Just upgraded to Windows Creator and Window Eyes is working great with it. - Original Message - From: Don H via Talk To: Windo

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2017-04-06 Thread Loy via Talk
Just upgraded to Windows Creator and Window Eyes is working great with it. - Original Message - From: Don H via Talk To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 2:24 PM Subject: future of WE OK so it seems that the news is that WE will continue to work wit

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2016-11-30 Thread Rebecca Ilniski via Talk
I use NVDA quite a bit here. Only issue that I have is that Duxbury doesn't work well with it and I really need both Perky Duck and Duxbury right now. I use jaws at work with Perky Duck and Duxbury so I may get it for that reason unless someone comes up with a decent add-in for NVDA. -- Rebec

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2016-11-28 Thread Chris Grabowski via Talk
er 28, 2016 6:16 PM To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Future of WE No, it's not an sma. That was just the price to upgrade certain versions of WE beginning with v8 I believe. An sma would apply towards major upgrades. -Or

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2016-11-28 Thread Andre via Talk
Talk Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 4:48 PM To: bj colt; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future of WE Isn't that an SMA? I mean $49 was not the whole price of a copy of window eyes. Pam. -Original Message- From: bj colt via Talk Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:17 AM

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2016-11-28 Thread Loy via Talk
WE Isn't that an SMA? I mean $49 was not the whole price of a copy of window eyes. Pam. -Original Message- From: bj colt via Talk Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:17 AM To: Butch Bussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future of WE Hi, As far as

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2016-11-28 Thread Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Isn't that an SMA? I mean $49 was not the whole price of a copy of window eyes. Pam. -Original Message- From: bj colt via Talk Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:17 AM To: Butch Bussen ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future of WE Hi, As far as I am aware aisquare

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2016-11-28 Thread Tony C via Talk
I always had pretty good experiences with G. W. Micro. Sad to say I can't say the same about Freedom. -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 5:13 PM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future of WE Not sure what you mea

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2016-11-27 Thread bj colt via Talk
loss, like they lost the legal dispute with gwmicro.lol Live long and prosper, John -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:13 PM To: Don H ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future of WE Not sure what you meant by "wished

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2016-11-27 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
Not sure what you meant by "wished to provide", like they didn't provide good service and a good product.They did wish to provide good customer service, their customer service was always top notch, and I've known Doug and Dan for a long time and their goal was to provide good products to

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2016-11-27 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
t just worked better than Jaws did. > That was back in 2004. I didn't like doing business with Freedom and I > know nothing has changed. lol > > -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:26 AM > To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion Li

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2016-11-27 Thread Tony C via Talk
h Freedom and I know nothing has changed. lol -Original Message- From: Dave via Talk Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 10:26 AM To: Tom Kingston ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future of WE Over the years, I have come to the same conclusion. It's usually all about the Money

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2016-11-27 Thread Don H via Talk
I predict that WE development will indeed stop soon if it hasn't already. I also predict that we will be offered some kind of not so good deal to purchase JAWS. I also predict that if you have SMA's left they will apply only if you take the deal to purchase JAWS. Otherwise your SMA's will be

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2016-11-27 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of bj colt via Talk Sent: Monday, 28 November 2016 5:18 a.m. To: Butch Bussen; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future of WE Hi, As far as I am aware aisquared are no longer selling s m a's. In an email from someone at aisquared a few months ago.

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2016-11-27 Thread via Talk
dAVE, yOU CAN ALTRSFU HRY A DEMO OF JAWS 18 IF YOU WISH. if YOU DOWNLOAD JAWS AND YOU CAN SELECT RUN AS DEMO AND YOU GET 40 MINUTES OF USE BEFORE YOU HAVE TO RESTART THE MACHINE. mATTHEW Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Dave via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 1:50 PM To: A I Squ

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2016-11-27 Thread Jim via Talk
ly supported for over two decades. Live long and prosper, John -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 3:58 PM To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future of WE Yep, that that requires logical thinking which isn't to common

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2016-11-27 Thread Dave via Talk
Over the years, I have come to the same conclusion. It's usually all about the Money Honey. Money Money Money Money! I am still wondering how a soon to be gone world leader can be paid $450,000 a year, and after 8 years, he and his wife can buy a home in Washington D.C. for something around 5

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2016-11-27 Thread bj colt via Talk
about the product we have loyally supported for over two decades. Live long and prosper, John -Original Message- From: Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 3:58 PM To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future of WE Yep, that that requires logica

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2016-11-27 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
cting dealers to no longer sell Window Eyes, that should tell you something? -Original Message- From: Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 3:10 PM To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Dave' Subject: Re: Future of WE I'm not sure I understan

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2016-11-27 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
7; Subject: Re: Future of WE I'm not sure I understand why some here feel this urgent need to switch to another screen reader at this moment. On 11/26/2016 6:03 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: Jaws 18 is out and should have a demo. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-boun

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2016-11-27 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
VFO is and always has been morally bankrupt. If they sue me for defamation of character I will plead the fifth. I rest my case. "Behind every successful fortune;There is Crime." Mario Puzo, The Godfather. This message was sent by John Doe, pending member of the federal witness protection progra

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2016-11-26 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
I do agree with you David about what you said. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:19 PM To: Butch Bussen; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Matthew Chao Subject: Re: Future of

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2016-11-26 Thread David via Talk
Listers, I had my hands on Jaws for something like an hour or so, that many years ago, it would not even be considered useful for today's computer activity. Name it a simple way to get a worksheet done. So, forgive me if I do not know exactly what is wrong with Jaws, to many of you. Maybe you d

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2016-11-26 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
I agree. No jaws for me. I flat refuse to mess with their copy protection scheme. I have way to many computers floating around here 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. doing various things. On Sat, 26 Nov 2016, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote: Oh the shark bites! Not interested. Don't li

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2016-11-26 Thread Linette Sukup via Talk
At the risk of seeming intrusive, what are the two programs that NVDA will not read? I just want to know what they are for possible future reference. Peace. Linette On 11/26/2016 12:50 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: I must admit, the Future of Window Eyes does look like it could be very limite

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2016-11-26 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
16 11:09 AM To: CJ &AA MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future of WE Oh the shark bites! Not interested. Don't like the lack of transparency, and I don't like options being forced down our throats. There needs to be more competition, not a monoply.--Matthew Chao On 11/2

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2016-11-26 Thread David via Talk
Although the speculations as to whether Window-Eyes will still be around is a bit hasty, I still encourage the use of more than one screen reader in general. First of all, you will benefit from the functionality of each reader, many times giving you better tools to perform the job you want, the

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2016-11-26 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
I'm not sure I understand why some here feel this urgent need to switch to another screen reader at this moment. On 11/26/2016 6:03 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote: > Jaws 18 is out and should have a demo. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists

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2016-11-26 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Jaws 18 is out and should have a demo. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 1:51 PM To: A I Squared Support Subject: Future of WE I must admit, the Future of Window Eyes

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2016-11-26 Thread Loy via Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 12:00 PM Subject: RE: Future of WE Well I plan to keep my head in the sand for as long as I can and stick with what I know. I doubt that I will ever go over to Jaws but will stay sitting on the fence for as long as I possibly can to see what solutions w

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2016-11-26 Thread Richard Jarvis via Talk
rograms > ever made. > > -Original Message- > From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] > On Behalf Of Matthew Chao via Talk > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:09 AM > To: CJ &AA MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Fut

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2016-11-26 Thread Andre via Talk
, November 26, 2016 11:09 AM To: CJ &AA MAY; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Future of WE Oh the shark bites! Not interested. Don't like the lack of transparency, and I don't like options being forced down our throats. There needs to be more competition, not a monoply.--

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2016-11-26 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
Oh the shark bites! Not interested. Don't like the lack of transparency, and I don't like options being forced down our throats. There needs to be more competition, not a monoply.--Matthew Chao On 11/26/2016 12:00 PM, CJ &AA MAY via Talk wrote: Well I plan to keep my head in the sand for

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2016-11-26 Thread Jim via Talk
Hi there! I agree, you do get what you pay for, although I have NVDA and it has made some strides toward becoming relevant I still think it has aways to go before I would make it my main screen reader. Yes, I do use it when W.E. won't work, which up to now isn't very often, but we will see wh

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2016-11-26 Thread CJ &AA MAY via Talk
Well I plan to keep my head in the sand for as long as I can and stick with what I know. I doubt that I will ever go over to Jaws but will stay sitting on the fence for as long as I possibly can to see what solutions work for others who are also reluctant to go over to the Shark! Alison

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2016-11-26 Thread brice Mijares via Talk
Here is a good place to start learning. http://accessibilitycentral.net /nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html On 11/26/2016 8:42 AM, Don H via Talk wrote: For those who are concerned about the future of Window Eyes I have finally started using NVDA. Keeping in mind my main computer u

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2016-11-26 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Again you get what you pay for. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Don H via Talk Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 11:43 AM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: Future of WE For those who are concerned about the