I just purchased a Dell desktop and it came with a keyboard as you
described. I contacted their tech support and they said that Dell had a
study and that no one used the num lock key anymore. I guess they did not
include screen reader users. I just purchased a new keyboard with a num lock
on it
demand that dell send you a keyboard that has a num lock
first before you go out and buy another keyboard.
give it a try.
don't lay down to the demands of dell stupitity.
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From: Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 4:13 PM
To: Window-
Same thing happened to me about 6 weeks ago. Apparently Dell has been
shipping this type of keyboard for a couple of years; there are complaints
in the Dell community forum about it. For some people the computer was left
in the numlock On state like mine was, and for other customers it was left
rsday, April 23, 2015 10:07 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
Same thing happened to me about 6 weeks ago. Apparently Dell has been
shipping this type of keyboard for a couple of years; there are complaints
in the Dell community forum about it. For some peop
Seems like everything is getting smaller, shorter, Thinner, and often
missing something, that once was part of the item. In this case,
someone has decided to lower the cost of manufacturing, by removing a
Key or two, or three.
This time it is the Num Lock key, and it is probably true, that fe
Discussion List
Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
Same thing happened to me about 6 weeks ago. Apparently Dell has been
shipping this type of keyboard for a couple of years; there are complaints
in the Dell community forum about it. For some people the computer was left
in the numlock On
Hi Carol,
I could send you a Window-Eyes app which allows you to define a hotkey to
toggle the NumLock.
Hth,
Rod
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From: Talk
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Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 7:13 PM
I believe all current Dell Keyboards don't have a num lock any more.
Debbie
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From: Talk
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Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, 24 April 2015 9:13 AM
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Subje
iday, April 24, 2015 2:58 AM
Subject: RE: speaking of Dell computers...
I believe all current Dell Keyboards don't have a num lock any more.
Debbie
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From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+debbiey1982=optusnet.com...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Carol and Roger
Same thing here:
My new Dell came with a keyboard but it did not have a num lock key, I
purchassed another and it came without an Applications Key.
I finally Purchassed a third keyboard that has both but the fellow at Best
Buy had a hard time finding one with both the num lock and applications
keys
Wow, I had no idea keyboards were changing in this way.
I can tell you that AI Squared does sell keyboards with both an
applications key as well as a numlock key. It's really designed for
Zoomtext users as it has an extra set of keys to control ZT functions
such as toggling color enhancements,
May be that he has to use the FN-key, along with the F-keys. For
instance, n-F12. Have a pair of eyes check the keyboard, or let him call
the place where he bought the computer, even the manufacturers customer
line, and ask for assistance.
David
On 4/24/2015 1:13 AM, Carol and Roger via Talk
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May be that he has to use the FN-key, along with the F-keys. For
instance, n-F12. Have a pair of eyes check the keyboard, or let him call
the place where he bought the computer, even the manufacturers customer
line, and ask for assistance.
Davi
Not all do, the one supplied with mine had no num lock key. You must have
order an upgraded one?
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Discussion List"
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 5:32 AM
Subject:
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(802) 362-3612
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On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 6:26 AM
To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
ion as the applications key.
Hope that helps
Debbie
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Behalf Of Chris Grabowski via Talk
Sent: Friday, 24 April 2015 11:43 PM
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Subject: RE: speaki
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Subject: RE: speaking of Dell computers...
I find newer Logitech keyboards do not have an applications key.
The last couple of Microsoft keyboards I
I don't see what the big deal is.
I just checked and Amazon carries some from $10 on up.
On 4/24/2015 6:16 AM, David Goldfield via Talk wrote:
Wow, I had no idea keyboards were changing in this way.
I can tell you that AI Squared does sell keyboards with both an
applications key as well as a num
2015 9:43 AM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: RE: speaking of Dell computers...
I find newer Logitech keyboards do not have an applications key.
The last couple of Microsoft keyboards I purchased have both a numlock and
an applications key.
Can't speak on any o
il 23, 2015 10:31 PM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
Seems like everything is getting smaller, shorter, Thinner, and often
missing something, that once was part of the item. In this case,
someone has decided to lower the cost of manufacturin
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From: Les Kriegler via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:07 AM
To: 'Chris Grabowski' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: speaking of Dell computers...
Hi Chris,
I use the Logitech Bluetooth k810 and really love the keyboard. However, it
doesn't have
made
the applications key harder to remember. Pam.
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From: net bat via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 1:16 PM
To: Les Kriegler ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
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i can do without the application key but not the numlock key . i
Talk
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Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 11:46 AM
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Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
I guess that's what makes the world turn around, as my husband u
n List'
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Hi Chris,
I use the Logitech Bluetooth k810 and really love the keyboard. However, it
doesn't have an applications key.
Les
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+kriegler=nycap.rr@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Beha
rsday, April 23, 2015 10:31 PM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
Seems like everything is getting smaller, shorter, Thinner, and often
missing something, that once was part of the item. In this case, someone
has decided to lower the cost of manufact
l Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 5:21 AM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: speaking of Dell computers...
Hi,
When buying
d a screen sharing session.
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From: Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 5:50 AM
To: 'Jim Grimsby JR.' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: speaking of Dell computers...
Hi: I did not know about checking drivers and all that ja
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Hi Chris,
I use the Logitech Bluetooth k810 and really love the keyboard. However, it
doesn't have an applications key.
Les
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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+kriegler=nycap.rr.
--
Do you mean you press the right control and right alt together to
make the applications menu happen? Pam.
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Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 3:04 AM
To: 'Les Kriegler' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: s
o. At the
time, it was windows 98. Pam.
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Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 7:59 AM
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Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
Good morning Rick,
I don't know if the following suggestions will help, Try
this is definitely something new because keyboards (for the most part)
have been pretty standard. Now there's several issues of which have not
even been addressed on this topic yet.
For one thing, keyboards that don't have the numlock key also usually
don't have the printscreen key, scroll lock
ginal Message-
From: Stephen Clark via Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:35 PM
To: Jim Grimsby JR. ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
this is definitely something new because keyboards (for the most part)
have been pretty standard. Now there'
Hi Steve:
It is incumbent on a piece of software to work with a given platform
including operating systems and, in the case of a screen reader, the
keyboard which is the primary interface for their clients and the only thing
they have to use the features of the software.
A simple list of manufactur
From: Talk
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Of Stephen Clark via Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:35 PM
To: Jim Grimsby JR.; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
this is definitely something new because keyboards (for the
al Message-
From: Talk
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Of Stephen Clark via Talk
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:35 PM
To: Jim Grimsby JR.; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
this is definitely something new because keyb
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Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 6:00 PM
To: 'Stephen Clark'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: speaking of Dell computers...
Hi Steve:
It is incumbent on a piece of software to work with a given platform
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Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:12 PM
To: Carol and Roger; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: speaking of Dell computers...
demand that dell send you a keyboard that has a num lock
first before you go out and buy another
inguez via Talk
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 9:38 AM
To: Dave; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: speaking of Dell computers...
That's very true. It makes another thing that we have to add to the
list of what we check when we buy a computer: whether the keyboard has
the right
you.
Andy
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From: Talk
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Behalf Of net bat via Talk
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 6:12 PM
To: Carol and Roger; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: speaking of Dell
Rick and the rest,
This discussion, altogether reminds me the one that every now and than,
has popped up around USB NumPads.
Rick, how much we would love a list provided, for all keyboards on the
market, and their compatibility, it will never work. I am going to deal
with but a couple of reas
Discussion List; 'Stephen Clark'
Subject: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell
computers...
Rick and the rest,
This discussion, altogether reminds me the one that every now and than,
has popped up around USB NumPads.
Rick, how much we would love a list provided, fo
Hi Rod:
There are standard codes generated by input devices and required at the
Operating System level.
This means that using quote standard unquote key combinations should be a
safe option for years to come.
I don't know enough to get into the codes nor standards but I know they
exist and that a k
=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:38 AM
To: 'Rod Hutton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'David'
Subject: RE: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell
computers...
Hi Rod:
The
roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:43 AM
To: 'David'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell
computers...
Hi David and everyone,
While I certainly
lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
>Of David via Talk
>Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:26 PM
>To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List; 'Stephen Clark'
>Subject: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell
>computers...
>Rick and the rest,
>This di
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:26 PM
To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List; 'Stephen Clark'
Subject: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell
computers...
Rick and the rest,
This discussion, altogether reminds me the one that every now and than,
has popped up aro
unces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Blair via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:27 PM
To: 'David'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'Rick Thomas'; 'Stephen Clark'
Subject: RE: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaki
Hi Rod: Unless you need me to beta test prior to posting to the AI2 site I
would rather not.
My current setup works and I don't like to "fix" something if it isnt
broken.
But if you want me to test the script prior to going into production I will
give it a spin.
Rick USA
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Behalf Of via Talk
Sent: Sunday, 26 April 2015 2:09 AM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
hmmm, that must be something incoded in to his keyboard because right
alt+right ctrl doesn't do anything here on my sys
List'
Subject: Correction of Applications Key info on Logitech K810 was RE:
speaking of Dell computers...
Hello All
I'm sorry I got the key combination wrong. You press the FN key (which is
second in from the bottom left) with the right control key. It's a bit
tricky to get but i
7;
Subject: Correction of Applications Key info on Logitech K810 was RE:
speaking of Dell computers...
Hello All
I'm sorry I got the key combination wrong. You press the FN key (which is
second in from the bottom left) with the right control key. It's a bit
tricky to get but i
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