Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week

2007-12-21 Thread Karl Newman
On Dec 21, 2007 6:43 PM, Andy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 21/12/2007, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 21, 2007 10:49 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder) > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > David James wrote: > > > >Sent: 21 December 2007 5:48 PM > > > >To: talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] Render icons for parking areas

2007-12-21 Thread Mario Salvini
Jon Burgess schrieb: > On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 13:41 +0100, Daniel Schmidt wrote: > >>> access=public/private/permissive are all listed on Map_Features, it >>> isn't clear whether permissive should imply a P symbol or not. The >>> code needs to handle the other cases too. >>> >> In my under

Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week

2007-12-21 Thread Andy Robinson
On 21/12/2007, David James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, December 21, 2007 6:49 pm, Andy Robinson \(blackadder\) wrote: > > David James wrote: > > > > Would this description of your technique be a useful addition to the one > of the Wiki entries on mapping techniques? Go ahead, please ad

Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week

2007-12-21 Thread Andy Robinson
On 21/12/2007, Karl Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 21, 2007 10:49 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > David James wrote: > > >Sent: 21 December 2007 5:48 PM > > >To: talk@openstreetmap.org > > >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Render icons for parking areas

2007-12-21 Thread Jon Burgess
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 13:41 +0100, Daniel Schmidt wrote: > > access=public/private/permissive are all listed on Map_Features, it > > isn't clear whether permissive should imply a P symbol or not. The > > code needs to handle the other cases too. > > In my understanding, an example for a "permissi

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to draw areas with holes?

2007-12-21 Thread Alex Mauer
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Dec 21, 2007 2:30 PM, Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: >>> "polygon with holes" and "splitting outside into peices because it's >>> too long" are incompatable, you either do one or the other. >> I don't believe there's any tec

Re: [OSM-talk] Layers (was Re: Featured images for christmas week)

2007-12-21 Thread Jason Reid
David James wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Andy Robinson (blackadder)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'OJW'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 2:30 PM > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week > > > >> If house number rendering gets implement

Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week

2007-12-21 Thread David James
On Fri, December 21, 2007 6:49 pm, Andy Robinson \(blackadder\) wrote: > David James wrote: > >> >> One question - what's the source for the residential=building data (the >> rectangle-ish areas at the sides of the roads)? >> > > It's a mixture of manual survey and artistic impression. The beginn

[OSM-talk] Layers (was Re: Featured images for christmas week)

2007-12-21 Thread David James
- Original Message - From: "Andy Robinson (blackadder)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'OJW'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week > If house number rendering gets implemented in time I'll do an image of my > l

Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week

2007-12-21 Thread John McKerrell
On 21 Dec 2007, at 18:49, Andy Robinson ((blackadder)) wrote: >> >> I don't know whether to be impressed at the level of detail you've >> gathered, or depressed because of how small it makes my own >> efforts look >> ... :-( > > Well, its my local area and since I started to map it in 2005 it

Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week

2007-12-21 Thread Karl Newman
On Dec 21, 2007 10:49 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David James wrote: > >Sent: 21 December 2007 5:48 PM > >To: talk@openstreetmap.org > >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week > > > > > >On Fri, December 21, 2007 2:30 pm, Andy Robinson \(blackadder

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding a particular street on the GPS

2007-12-21 Thread Patrick Weber
Lambertus wrote: >Karl Newman wrote: > > >>Actually, for the full-featured version that does everything with no >>restrictions, it's USD2800... However, you can get free access to that >>version online if you're willing to share your maps with the world. >>It's at mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com The ot

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed feature, opinions requested

2007-12-21 Thread J.D. Schmidt
Frederik Ramm skrev: > Hi, > >> Including >> landuse=ToiletAndBathAreaAtRoskildeFestival_Bring_NoseClamp_On_Day_Two_and_Later. >> >> >> I'm suggesting a shitty-brownish-yellow color for that one, right away. >> >> Is it really necessary to go that finegrained down, in the definition of >> the la

Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week

2007-12-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
David James wrote: >Sent: 21 December 2007 5:48 PM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week > > >On Fri, December 21, 2007 2:30 pm, Andy Robinson \(blackadder\) wrote: >> If house number rendering gets implemented in time I'll do an image of my >> loc

Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week

2007-12-21 Thread David James
On Fri, December 21, 2007 2:30 pm, Andy Robinson \(blackadder\) wrote: > If house number rendering gets implemented in time I'll do an image of my > local area that might be considered. I've just started gathering house > number and other close-in data. > > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=5

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to draw areas with holes?

2007-12-21 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Dec 21, 2007 2:30 PM, Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > "polygon with holes" and "splitting outside into peices because it's > > too long" are incompatable, you either do one or the other. > > I don't believe there's any technical reason for this -- if a l

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding a particular street on the GPS

2007-12-21 Thread Karl Newman
On Dec 21, 2007 7:32 AM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > Interesting idea. I know mapcenter is not sufficient for a huge > > project such as this, but it's good for free testing. My thinking is > > in line with yours--I was thinking at some point OSM might acquire a > > full li

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to draw areas with holes?

2007-12-21 Thread Alex Mauer
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > "polygon with holes" and "splitting outside into peices because it's > too long" are incompatable, you either do one or the other. I don't believe there's any technical reason for this -- if a large way can otherwise be split into pieces, and later rejoined by the

[OSM-talk] [EMAIL PROTECTED] zoom 10

2007-12-21 Thread Alex Mauer
The black casing added to primary/secondary/trunk/motorway roads at zoom 10 makes them look ugly, because it turns a dirty gray with some nasty aliasing at that thickness. Side-by-side comparison is currently visible here: http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=44.07111987785317&lon=-89.196324656

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding a particular street on the GPS

2007-12-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Interesting idea. I know mapcenter is not sufficient for a huge > project such as this, but it's good for free testing. My thinking is > in line with yours--I was thinking at some point OSM might acquire a > full license (note that the author has a reduced license cost for > charities--maybe

Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week

2007-12-21 Thread John McKerrell
Don't worry, I'm not suggesting this should be used but I thought some of you might like it: http://www.multimap.com/static/card2007/ Seasons greetings to everyone, have a good holiday if you're taking one, John P.S. It's not OSM based so don't worry that we've inserted "Jingle Bell Way" i

Re: [OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week

2007-12-21 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
If house number rendering gets implemented in time I'll do an image of my local area that might be considered. I've just started gathering house number and other close-in data. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.55511

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding a particular street on the GPS

2007-12-21 Thread Karl Newman
On Dec 21, 2007 12:41 AM, Lambertus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Karl Newman wrote: > > Actually, for the full-featured version that does everything with no > > restrictions, it's USD2800... However, you can get free access to that > > version online if you're willing to share your maps with the wo

[OSM-talk] Featured images for christmas week

2007-12-21 Thread OJW
Now taking suggestions for christmas week's featured images. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Featured_images These will be visible on the front page during the holiday (while people are playing with their new computers/GPS's/etc) so let's have some good images to choose from __

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to draw areas with holes?

2007-12-21 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martijn van Oosterhout schrieb: > On Dec 20, 2007 11:44 PM, Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I have used the multipolygon relation to draw islands in rivers. It is >>> specifically intended for drawing holes in areas and worked very well for

Re: [OSM-talk] namespacing of tags

2007-12-21 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alex L. Mauer wrote: > Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: >> Robin Paulson wrote: >>> there a few proposals currently on the wiki that have comments >>> regarding namespacing of tags. i understand the general concept of >>> what it is, but why do we need it?

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to draw areas with holes?

2007-12-21 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Hello Chris, > I modified Jon Burgess's step by step list from his email and added it to the > relation Wiki page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Relations/Multipolygon > verry good idea to add this to the Wiki page. Thanks. I just added a short "using JOSM". AFAIK: Potlatch and M

Re: [OSM-talk] American or british english

2007-12-21 Thread Gregory
On 20/12/2007, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > or do the renderers check for alternative spellings? > I saw this today: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/emj/diary/696 And my response was to think that it would make a good JOSM plugin so users can tag in their own language and befo

[OSM-talk] New Hourly Changeset Directory

2007-12-21 Thread Brett Henderson
Hi All, The existing hourly changesets available at http://planet.openstreetmap.org/daily/hourly/ have moved to http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hourly/ The existing directory is still available (using a symlink to the new directory) but will be deleted soon. Cheers, Brett ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to draw areas with holes?

2007-12-21 Thread Chris Hill
> Alex Mauer wrote: > > Chris Hill wrote: > > > > I have used the multipolygon relation to draw islands in rivers. > >It > >is specifically intended for drawing holes in areas and worked > very > >well for me. > > > > I've tried to use it for this, but I run into problems when the river >

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed feature, opinions requested

2007-12-21 Thread Michael Collinson
At 09:33 AM 12/21/2007, Abigail Brady wrote: On Dec 21, 2007 5:28 AM, J.D. Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is it really necessary to go that finegrained down, in the definition of the landuse tag ? Certainly yes. Do we want a psychedelic multicolored map, or do we

Re: [OSM-talk] Application idea - "OSMSiteMaker"

2007-12-21 Thread Lester Caine
Nick Whitelegg wrote: >> Being able to extract a defined area would be useful rather than having to >> use >> the whole planet dump. But would dumping that as shape files really be >> useful? >> A set of local copies of the relevant tiles could be useful, > > I was thinking of custom styles -

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed feature, opinions requested

2007-12-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Dec 21, 2007 8:33 AM, Abigail Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 21, 2007 5:28 AM, J.D. Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it really necessary to go that finegrained down, in the definition of > > the landuse tag ? > > > > Certainly yes. OK. But why not have different levels of

Re: [OSM-talk] WhereAmI: OSM on your mobile

2007-12-21 Thread tim
I think these vector osm mobile applications are really the future. I thought that one of the interesting features, is the ability to post back to a server corrections, or notes, bringing live editing on a phone much closer. now...perhaps Santa will give me a S60 for Christmas so I can play with

Re: [OSM-talk] American or british english

2007-12-21 Thread David Earl
> or do the renderers check for alternative spellings? The namefinder can check for alternatives like this so if you enter "The Arndale Center" in principle it can find "The Arndale Centre". I will add centre<->center as equivalents shortly. If there are any more that appear in real names that

Re: [OSM-talk] American or british english

2007-12-21 Thread Dave Stubbs
On 20/12/2007, Hanno Böck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Donnerstag 20 Dezember 2007 schrieb Robin Paulson: > > i presume this is for things like 'The Arndale Centre' i.e. proper > > nouns (names) of buildings/areas etc? in which case, the spelling is > > dependent on whatever the owner of the str

Re: [OSM-talk] Application idea - "OSMSiteMaker"

2007-12-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
>Being able to extract a defined area would be useful rather than having to use >the whole planet dump. But would dumping that as shape files really be useful? >A set of local copies of the relevant tiles could be useful, I was thinking of custom styles - if people wanted to use their own sty

Re: [OSM-talk] Application idea - "OSMSiteMaker"

2007-12-21 Thread Tom Chance
On Friday 21 December 2007 09:04:54 Nick Whitelegg wrote: > Was thinking that it might be an idea to develop an application to allow > people to set up their own local OSM-based sites for very local areas e.g. > 20x20 miles - in the UK, that could include, for example, the New Forest, > the Lake Di

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to draw areas with holes?

2007-12-21 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Dec 20, 2007 11:44 PM, Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have used the multipolygon relation to draw islands in rivers. It is > > specifically intended for drawing holes in areas and worked very well for > > me. > > > > I've tried to use it for this, but I run into problems when the

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed feature, opinions requested

2007-12-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > Including > landuse=ToiletAndBathAreaAtRoskildeFestival_Bring_NoseClamp_On_Day_Two > _and_Later. > I'm suggesting a shitty-brownish-yellow color for that one, right > away. > > Is it really necessary to go that finegrained down, in the > definition of > the landuse tag ? No, I think th

Re: [OSM-talk] Flooded tile

2007-12-21 Thread Paul Jaggard
Cheers, but I tried that over several weeks, didn't make any difference. Might have confused it by choosing 'mixed' first time I tried. Tried again later and got 'you've already voted'. Tried again last night and got a 403 error... Paul. From: D Tucny [ma

[OSM-talk] proposal; voting now open

2007-12-21 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been under proposal for a month now, with no objections http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Climbing_Wall voting is now open thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mail

Re: [OSM-talk] Application idea - "OSMSiteMaker"

2007-12-21 Thread Lester Caine
Nick Whitelegg wrote: > Was thinking that it might be an idea to develop an application to allow > people to set up their own local OSM-based sites for very local areas e.g. > 20x20 miles - in the UK, that could include, for example, the New Forest, the > Lake District or Manchester. I was think

Re: [OSM-talk] openstreetmap.org and API down

2007-12-21 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Nick Whitelegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Giving 500 errors. I think our servers just entered the twilight zone or something... At roughly 0400 GMT the internet facing network interface on db2 stopped talking to the world. The consequence of that would ha

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed feature, opinions requested

2007-12-21 Thread Robin Paulson
On 21/12/2007, J.D. Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not just use k=landuse v=industrial ? > > Works for me for both ports and airports, since both are industries - > one involving transport by air, and one involving transport by sea. well, lots of things are industries, so that doesn't re

[OSM-talk] Application idea - "OSMSiteMaker"

2007-12-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Was thinking that it might be an idea to develop an application to allow people to set up their own local OSM-based sites for very local areas e.g. 20x20 miles - in the UK, that could include, for example, the New Forest, the Lake District or Manchester. I was thinking of the scenario where peo

[OSM-talk] openstreetmap.org and API down

2007-12-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Giving 500 errors. Nick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding a particular street on the GPS

2007-12-21 Thread Lambertus
Karl Newman wrote: > Actually, for the full-featured version that does everything with no > restrictions, it's USD2800... However, you can get free access to that > version online if you're willing to share your maps with the world. > It's at mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com The other complicating factor i

Re: [OSM-talk] proposed feature, opinions requested

2007-12-21 Thread Abigail Brady
On Dec 21, 2007 5:28 AM, J.D. Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it really necessary to go that finegrained down, in the definition of > the landuse tag ? > Certainly yes. > Do we want a psychedelic multicolored map, or do we want something that > people can stand to look at for prolonged