Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-nl] Recent Edits

2008-02-03 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Robert (Jamie) Munro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom Hughes wrote: > > | No, the plan is to have a separate note object and then to make the > | map api call return those objects so the editors can display them. > > So if I am editing something, and I k

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-nl] Recent Edits

2008-02-03 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Robert (Jamie) Munro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What does the separate object type gain us exactly, apart from more code > > to maintain? > > It gives something tha

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridges / viaducts for railways

2008-02-03 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 2, 2008 11:12 PM, Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > Around here the water levels can vary +/-0.5m (just before the bridge > > there's a gauge so you can tell at any particular moment if you'll > > fit). Should the height here be the "minimum maxim

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridges / viaducts for railways

2008-02-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Oooh, I get to talk about something I really _do_ know about... Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Feb 2, 2008 11:12 PM, Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yeah, it seems to me that putting max_heights on something where >> one of >> the surfaces moves is fraught with possible proble

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-nl] Recent Edits

2008-02-03 Thread Bruce Cowan
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 00:29 +, Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > So if I am editing something, and I know I've done it wrong, but plan to > fix it later, am I supposed to go to the separate notes interface and > add a pre-emptive note, rather than use the existing FIXME notation? Or > do you plan

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-nl] Recent Edits

2008-02-03 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 3, 2008 1:49 PM, Bruce Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What does the separate object type gain us exactly, apart from more code > > to maintain? > > There are many issues with notes in the actual data: > > * It's not anything to do with the actual feature being mapped. > * I

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-nl] Recent Edits

2008-02-03 Thread Sven Grüner
Martijn van Oosterhout schrieb: > I think we have a pretty good analogy here: we could ask people to > submit bugs by committing comments to the relevent parts of SVN. We > don't for pretty much the same reasons we don't want notes in the DB > as nodes... A seperate system like Trac is far more app

Re: [OSM-talk] josm: jump to selection

2008-02-03 Thread Moshe Sayag
Also, I think it'd be a good idea to zoom on the selection when it is double-clicked. P.S. Why does the software uses numbers to perform actions (e.g. '3' for "Zoom to Selection") and not the function keys (e.g. 'F3')? Cheers, Moshe On Feb 3, 2008 12:30 AM, Moshe Sayag <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [OSM-talk] josm: jump to selection

2008-02-03 Thread Raphael Studer
> Naturally, a pop-up should appear when a user right-clicks on an item at the > "Current Selection" window, "Validation Error" window, etc. Now I unterstand what you mean. I would call this a menu (selection or right-click). In my eyes popups are little windows informs me about an error or a fini

Re: [OSM-talk] How to import shapefile into OSM

2008-02-03 Thread Mikel Maron
Found the Import pages on the wiki.. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Import http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Import/Catalogue http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Import/Software and added stub rows for Arezzo, Falkland Islands, Sudan, Merano (could the importers fill in the de

[OSM-talk] Closed Ways all Opened in Luxembourg

2008-02-03 Thread Patrick Weber
Hi Noticed something very strange just now. Looked at Luxembourg-City in Potlatch, and all closed ways (roundabouts, parking lots ... ) had been "opened" . By that I mean the last node had been deleted so that that there was a gap and the line wasnt closed anymore. Now this doesnt seem to ha

Re: [OSM-talk] Closed Ways all Opened in Luxembourg

2008-02-03 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Patrick Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Noticed something very strange just now. Looked at Luxembourg-City in > Potlatch, and all closed ways (roundabouts, parking lots ... ) had been > "opened" . By that I mean the last node had been deleted so that th

Re: [OSM-talk] Closed Ways all Opened in Luxembourg

2008-02-03 Thread Thomas Wood
On Feb 3, 2008 4:25 PM, Patrick Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > Noticed something very strange just now. Looked at Luxembourg-City in > Potlatch, and all closed ways (roundabouts, parking lots ... ) had been > "opened" . By that I mean the last node had been deleted so that that > there

Re: [OSM-talk] Closed Ways all Opened in Luxembourg

2008-02-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Patrick Weber wrote: > Hi > > Noticed something very strange just now. Looked at Luxembourg-City > in Potlatch, and all closed ways (roundabouts, parking lots ... ) > had been "opened" . By that I mean the last node had been deleted > so that that there was a gap and the line wasnt closed a

[OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey OpenSpace

2008-02-03 Thread martin dodge
Hi, just wondering if anyone has seen a good mash-up using the Ordnance Survey OpenSpace API? Is anyone using this for real?? cheers martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Units convention

2008-02-03 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephen Gower schrieb: > > And maxspeed:metric would be in metres per second. > No, that would be maxspeed:SI, metric is still not the same as SI There is some ambiguity in metric, as you have to discern from context, wether a weight is in kg

[OSM-talk] Place of worship: wayside crosses

2008-02-03 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, on the german list one inhabitant wondered how to name a proposal for wayside crosses: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croix_monumentale How do you call them in english speaking countries? What would you recommend for a proposal? An additional tag for place_of_worship or an tag of its own? Th

[OSM-talk] [tagging] grouping simple tag proposals

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
taking on board one of Frederic's comments from last week: there are a lot of proposed 'shop' tags on the proposals page, something which is overwhelming and time-consuming to solve using our current method of tag proposal/ratifying i think it would be a good idea to group a lot of these tags toge

[OSM-talk] [tagging] voting open - peninsula

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for comment for two weeks now, time to open voting http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/peninsula thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] [tagging] request for more votes - power_plant

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for two weeks, and currently has 10 yes votes and 1 no votes. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Power_plants could i request some more votes please, to push it one way or the other. unless ulf wants to re-consider his opinion. thanks _

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM needs a measure for completeness

2008-02-03 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederik Ramm schrieb: > Whereever possible I'd like to try and have this completeness assessed > by people *other* than those who did the mapping; maybe through a web > interface where casual visitors can check their area of residence and > rubber-sta

[OSM-talk] [tagging] request for more votes - pumping_rig

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for over two weeks, and currently has 4 yes votes and 0 no votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/rig could i request some more votes please, to push it one way or the other. thanks ___ talk mailing list tal

[OSM-talk] [tagging] request for more votes - chalets

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been open for two weeks, and currently has 4 yes votes and 0 no votes. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/chalets could i request some more votes please, to push it one way or the other. thanks ___ talk mailing list tal

[OSM-talk] [tagging] voting open - railway=service

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
after several weeks of RFC and a re-work of the tagging, this is open for voting http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Service thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listin

[OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC open - rack railway

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been around for several months now with little input, so i've done a bit of cleanup http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Rack_railway time to open for comments thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://li

[OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC open - funicular railway

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has been around for several months now with little input, so i've done a bit of clean-up http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Funicular_railway time to open for comments thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org htt

Re: [OSM-talk] Closed Ways all Opened in Luxembourg

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, more usefully, Potlatch now automatically resizes itself to > your browser window. Still a couple of rough edges to iron out > (particularly with the Yahoo imagery) but hope you like it! woooah, col thank richard, been

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] grouping simple tag proposals

2008-02-03 Thread Robert Vollmert
Hello, On Feb 3, 2008, at 20:20, Robin Paulson wrote: > taking on board one of Frederic's comments from last week: there are a > lot of proposed 'shop' tags on the proposals page, something which is > overwhelming and time-consuming to solve using our current method of > tag proposal/ratifying > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Closed Ways all Opened in Luxembourg

2008-02-03 Thread SteveC
I'm very much of the school... that someone should say what was 4 times slower and why? :-) On 3 Feb 2008, at 16:52, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Patrick Weber wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Noticed something very strange just now. Looked at Luxembourg-City >> in Potlatch, and all closed ways (roundabouts

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] request for more votes - power_plant

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Ulf Lamping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robin Paulson schrieb: > > this has been open for two weeks, and currently has 10 yes votes and 1 no > > votes. > > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Power_plants > > > > could i request some more votes please, to

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] request for more votes - power_plant

2008-02-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robin Paulson schrieb: > this has been open for two weeks, and currently has 10 yes votes and 1 no > votes. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Power_plants > > could i request some more votes please, to push it one way or the other. > > unless ulf wants to re-consider hi

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] grouping simple tag proposals

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Robert Vollmert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sounds good, but why not go a step further: There could be a page on > the wiki for "simple" proposals, and anything that gets no objections > for a week is automatically approved and added to Map Features. i'm not too comfortable with th

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] grouping simple tag proposals

2008-02-03 Thread Ulf Lamping
Robert Vollmert schrieb: > Hello, > > On Feb 3, 2008, at 20:20, Robin Paulson wrote: > >> taking on board one of Frederic's comments from last week: there are a >> lot of proposed 'shop' tags on the proposals page, something which is >> overwhelming and time-consuming to solve using our current

[OSM-talk] Template: and Template: pages in OSM-Wiki

2008-02-03 Thread Hakan Tandogan
Hi, First off, I must admit that I don't really understand the specifics of Mediawiki templates ;-) To simplify the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tr:Map_Features I created a http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Tr:Key:shop that uses the template appopiate template, and replaced t

[OSM-talk] Can Mediawiki notify by mail?

2008-02-03 Thread Hakan Tandogan
Hi, I was just adding the template pages I use to my watchlist. Can Mediawiki notify me with a mail if a certain (a template or even group of templates, like Template:Map_Features_*) changes? I'd rather not check my watchlist manually, computers are far better suited for automatically providi

Re: [OSM-talk] POIs from OSM data

2008-02-03 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, update: http://christeck.de/POIs/ Split into Europe and Germany. As alway in gpx and gpi formats. Additionally gpi_huge contains all POIs in one single file, with proximity alarmy added, useful for mapping. Best regards, ce ___ talk mailing li

Re: [OSM-talk] Template: and Template: pages in OSM-Wiki

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Hakan Tandogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My problem is that the template only shows "official" values for the > shop key, but there might be more tags that are used only locally. Could > the template render those additional tags after the "official" list, > perhaps with a divider

Re: [OSM-talk] Template: and Template: pages in OSM-Wiki

2008-02-03 Thread Hakan Tandogan
Robin Paulson wrote: > On 04/02/2008, Hakan Tandogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> My problem is that the template only shows "official" values for the >> shop key, but there might be more tags that are used only locally. Could >> the template render those additional tags after the "official" list,

Re: [OSM-talk] Template: and Template: pages in OSM-Wiki

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Hakan Tandogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, I'm talking about creating a Map_Features page where new > values for given keys (e.g. "highway", "shop") appear. The only part I'm > complaining is that the Template only allows the "approved" values > whereas I'd like it to show

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship: wayside crosses

2008-02-03 Thread Stephen Hope
Christoph, There was some discussion about this on the list last month, (in a thread that started by talking about the Icon tag), and there is now a proposed tag as wayside_cross (there is also wayside_shrine). http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/wayside_cross Wayside cross

[OSM-talk] [tagging] new proposal - graveyard

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
i've noticed that there are two tags for places where people are buried - cemetery and graveyard, with an ambiguous distinction between the two this proposal is to make one obsolete http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/graveyard comments are welcome

[OSM-talk] [tagging] vote open - handball

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
this has bene open for commetns for several weeks now, with no major objections http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Handball voting is now open, until 2008-02-18 thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.op

[OSM-talk] [tagging] vote closed/proposal approved - laundry

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
after two weeks of voting, this has closed with 12 yes votes and 0 no votes http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Laundry it wil be moved tot he map features and approved features pages thanks ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetm

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] request for more votes - power_plant

2008-02-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 04/02/2008, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, I can live with it and I think it's a good idea to move the > > stuff to power so I reverted my vote, I guess we can consider this to be > > approved and can close the voting. > > > > Are you gonna do the next steps? plus, of cou

Re: [OSM-talk] Can Mediawiki notify by mail?

2008-02-03 Thread Ray Booysen
On Feb 4, 2008 12:04 AM, Hakan Tandogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > I was just adding the template pages I use to my watchlist. Can > Mediawiki notify me with a mail if a certain (a template or even group > of templates, like Template:Map_Features_*) changes? I'd rather not > check my w

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM needs a measure for completeness

2008-02-03 Thread Martin Trautmann
Chris Morley wrote: > I have started a new thread with a measure for completeness in the title > because this is an important topic for OSM. But the response to the > recent posts quoted above, and my raising of it last July, has been only > luke-warm. I've added http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/ind

Re: [OSM-talk] Can Mediawiki notify by mail?

2008-02-03 Thread Martin Trautmann
Ray Booysen wrote: >> I was just adding the template pages I use to my watchlist. Can >> Mediawiki notify me with a mail if a certain (a template or even group >> of templates, like Template:Map_Features_*) changes? I'd rather not >> check my watchlist manually, computers are far better suited for