Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

2008-04-19 Thread Brian Quinion
> > > This bezier stuff is nice for the renderers, but it shouldn't be a > > > substitute for having enough nodes to define the curve. Don't forget > > > are other data consumers/renderers that may not have the ability to do > > > bezier curves. Extra nodes can always be reduced by using a > > > al

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

2008-04-19 Thread Karl Newman
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Brian Quinion < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Interesting, Artem sent a mail in January that he was working on it > > > and I foolishly assumed that meant he was working on it in SVN. > > > However looking through the source it seems you are right, there's > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Lakes and relations, what did I break?

2008-04-19 Thread Dermot McNally
An update to this: To exclude some possibilities, I've removed the relation. Now the lake outlines are simple clockwise water, the islands, for the time being, are simply untagged and out of the picture. No improvement - the problem is clearly not caused by relations. Does anybody have tips for h

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

2008-04-19 Thread Dermot McNally
On 19/04/2008, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - not trying to do anything to account for ways which crossed over a > border. PostGIS can generate clipped geometries while doing the > processing but I did not try this [1]. That's not the cause anyway - the motorway ends, with a break

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

2008-04-19 Thread Jon Burgess
On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 19:57 +0100, Dermot McNally wrote: > On 18/04/2008, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >From a purely functional perspective this approach seems to work. The > > screenshot below shows what happens if you ask for the motorways in > > Ireland to be rendered in pur

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

2008-04-19 Thread Dermot McNally
On 18/04/2008, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From a purely functional perspective this approach seems to work. The > screenshot below shows what happens if you ask for the motorways in > Ireland to be rendered in purple: > > http://tile.openstreetmap.org/direct/country-mways-example

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

2008-04-19 Thread Brian Quinion
> > Interesting, Artem sent a mail in January that he was working on it > > and I foolishly assumed that meant he was working on it in SVN. > > However looking through the source it seems you are right, there's > > nothing there. > > I'll bug him to release a patch at least so we can play with it.

Re: [OSM-talk] psv definition

2008-04-19 Thread Lester Caine
Ben Laenen wrote: > Hi all, > > Could someone give a proper definition of what vehicles are included > with "psv" (public service vehicle). I always thought it was all kinds > of public transport (including trams, taxis, trolleys, buses -- but no > coaches for example), while some pages on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

2008-04-19 Thread Karl Newman
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 5:52 AM, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Brian Quinion > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > IIRC, Mapnik supports bezier hinting for quite a while now, just > > > no-one has gone and updated the stylesheet to use it. >

Re: [OSM-talk] psv definition

2008-04-19 Thread Karl Newman
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Ben Laenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Could someone give a proper definition of what vehicles are included > with "psv" (public service vehicle). I always thought it was all kinds > of public transport (including trams, taxis, trolleys, buses -- but n

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

2008-04-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Robert (Jamie) Munro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hopefully we won't need a separate tileserver for each rendering style - > 1 server should be able to render more than one style at a time at > different URLs. I am led to believe that mod_tile cannot currently >

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

2008-04-19 Thread Andy Robinson
On 19/04/2008, Jo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ari Torhamo schreef: > > > > I would just like to add to the other replies that before (re)moving > nodes you should look at their properties. Sometimes they are at a > specific place for a reason (bus stop, crossing, etc) > Using JOSM its helpful

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

2008-04-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Brian Quinion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IIRC, Mapnik supports bezier hinting for quite a while now, just > > no-one has gone and updated the stylesheet to use it. > > I was looking for these options the other day for a map I was doing > but came to the co

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

2008-04-19 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jo wrote: | Robert (Jamie) Munro schreef: |> |> When I look at the USA, I want interstates to be blue. When an American |> looks at the UK, they want to see motorways to be a colour other than |> blue, because then they will understand instinctively wh

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

2008-04-19 Thread Brian Quinion
Hi, > IIRC, Mapnik supports bezier hinting for quite a while now, just > no-one has gone and updated the stylesheet to use it. I was looking for these options the other day for a map I was doing but came to the conclusion that they had not yet been exposed at the stylesheet level. Do you have

[OSM-talk] psv definition

2008-04-19 Thread Ben Laenen
Hi all, Could someone give a proper definition of what vehicles are included with "psv" (public service vehicle). I always thought it was all kinds of public transport (including trams, taxis, trolleys, buses -- but no coaches for example), while some pages on the wiki seem to suggest it's a s

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

2008-04-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Ben Laenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, before using it, I'd like to ask to have a way to disable the > curves as well (and I'd even prefer to see nice curves for roads > disabled by default). When roads or other features (like the water > borders in a por

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

2008-04-19 Thread Ben Laenen
On Saturday 19 April 2008, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > IIRC, Mapnik supports bezier hinting for quite a while now, just > no-one has gone and updated the stylesheet to use it. Well, before using it, I'd like to ask to have a way to disable the curves as well (and I'd even prefer to see nice c

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

2008-04-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Ari Torhamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I remember reading this bezier system being planned, but understood that > it wouldn't be nearly ready yet. Is it indeed ready for use, and will it > be the default method for rendering maps? Is it coming to Mapnik too? >

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008-04-19 Thread Steve Hill
Tom Hughes wrote: > Because the name tag is always the name of an object, regardless of > what that object is (the amenity=pub tells you what sort of object it > is in this case). It is clear to everybody that a name tag is going > to tell you the name of something without having to know anything