Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Lester Caine
SteveC wrote: > On 2 May 2008, at 12:38, Christopher Schmidt wrote: >> Some things don't require referential integreity: selecting ways/nodes >> within a bounding box can't hurt the referential integrity of the >> database (so long as the code is well-maintained), so the harm in >> converting those

Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?

2008-05-02 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 08:19:52PM -0700, David Muir Sharnoff wrote: > You're right: that OAM imagery is very detailed. Unfortunately, it's > not that good where I'm mapping. Sorry, my comments were tongue in cheek. I don't expect there to be many cases where OAM is the best choice for mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?

2008-05-02 Thread Karl Newman
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:19 PM, David Muir Sharnoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're right: that OAM imagery is very detailed. Unfortunately, it's not > that > good where I'm mapping. In Oakland, California, Yahoo! has two zoom > levels beyond what Potlatch will display. It would be very

Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?

2008-05-02 Thread David Muir Sharnoff
You're right: that OAM imagery is very detailed. Unfortunately, it's not that good where I'm mapping. In Oakland, California, Yahoo! has two zoom levels beyond what Potlatch will display. It would be very helpful to me if Potlatch would display those zoom levels. Google has one (or two) mor

Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?

2008-05-02 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 12:51:43PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2008/5/3 micha ruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > in options, choose 'Aerial - OpenAerialMap' as background and you'll be fine > > hmm, i'm slightly baffled by that. the oam coverage for nz is > appalling at best and as an aside, i'd be ve

Re: [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-02 Thread Bruce Cowan
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 17:01 +0100, Andy Allan wrote: > And where all the data entered by the PD guys was done without looking > at the non-PD stuff as a reference? Like a "PD" pub which was > positioned at the corner of two CC-BY-SA streets, whose coordinates, > therefore is (arguably) non-PD? Or "

Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?

2008-05-02 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Robin Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/5/3 micha ruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> in options, choose 'Aerial - OpenAerialMap' as background and you'll be fine > > hmm, i'm slightly baffled by that. the oam coverage for nz is > appalling at best and as an aside, i

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Europe Statistics

2008-05-02 Thread Bruce Cowan
On Wed, 2008-04-30 at 01:45 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > >a very crude statistic: > I suspect that disregarding the coastline (which is included in my > figures) would probably cost the Scandinavian countries a few ranks in > this league. Coastline factor doesn't affect larger countrie

Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?

2008-05-02 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/5/3 micha ruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > in options, choose 'Aerial - OpenAerialMap' as background and you'll be fine hmm, i'm slightly baffled by that. the oam coverage for nz is appalling at best and as an aside, i'd be very surprised if it was better resolution than the yahoo imagery anywhere

Re: [OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?

2008-05-02 Thread micha ruh
in options, choose 'Aerial - OpenAerialMap' as background and you'll be fine regards ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] zoom yahoo data in potlatch?

2008-05-02 Thread robin paulson
i'm doing some work in potlatch (tracing buildings) that needs high zoom to be able to trace the building edges. so, to richard: is there anyway to zoom the yahoo data, rather than it disappearing at high zooms? i realise it'll be somewhat pixellated, but it's still better than nothing ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Wide tracks with cycle access

2008-05-02 Thread Ari Torhamo
pe, 2008-05-02 kello 11:07 +0100, Dave Stubbs kirjoitti: > The main problem with this kind of idea is it's complete subjectivity. > The bike_suitability style of tag is less of a problem because there's > a fairly clear reference point: ie: would you be happy cycling a road > bike down this path,

Re: [OSM-talk] Background-only on potlatch?

2008-05-02 Thread Ben Laenen
On Friday 02 May 2008, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > OJ W wrote: > > Is there a way to turn off map data on potlatch, for when you want > > to zoom-out and look at something on the satellite photos, but > > don't want to trouble OSM with downloading an entire town's data > > that you're not planning t

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Mikel Maron
From: Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > In part it's an entirely selfish attitude in as much as that Adobe > show no signs of wanting to support flash on 64 bit linux which means > that I am left having to rely on the free players or struggling to > use the 32 bit flash plugin via a kludgy wrappe

Re: [OSM-talk] WTF ! (about gps traces)

2008-05-02 Thread Karl Newman
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 12:12 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > hey dude, what's that > > http://openstreetmap.org/user/wwwFrank/traces/104165?? > > > > -- > > Steven Le Roux > > Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I think that this is a load of waypoints turned into a track. > > T

Re: [OSM-talk] WTF ! (about gps traces)

2008-05-02 Thread simon
> Hi there, > > hey dude, what's that > http://openstreetmap.org/user/wwwFrank/traces/104165?? > > -- > Steven Le Roux > Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think that this is a load of waypoints turned into a track. This type track makes an area unworkable when made public. The mess of gps tracks co

Re: [OSM-talk] Background-only on potlatch?

2008-05-02 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:14 PM, OJ W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a way to turn off map data on potlatch, for when you want to > zoom-out and look at something on the satellite photos, but don't want > to trouble OSM with downloading an entire town's data that you're not > planning to use?

Re: [OSM-talk] Background-only on potlatch?

2008-05-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
OJ W wrote: > Is there a way to turn off map data on potlatch, for when you want to > zoom-out and look at something on the satellite photos, but don't want > to trouble OSM with downloading an entire town's data that you're not > planning to use? There's a request I've not heard before! Not eas

[OSM-talk] Background-only on potlatch?

2008-05-02 Thread OJ W
Is there a way to turn off map data on potlatch, for when you want to zoom-out and look at something on the satellite photos, but don't want to trouble OSM with downloading an entire town's data that you're not planning to use? ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Hi-vis vest with OpenStreetMap Logo & "Surveyor" Text

2008-05-02 Thread Graham Smith
Andy Robinson (blackadder) wrote: Graham Smith Sent: 02 May 2008 4:50 PM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Hi-vis vest with OpenStreetMap Logo & "Surveyor" Text Hi folks, I'm in the process of getting a custom high-visibility safety vest printed for myself, for OSM surveying wo

Re: [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-02 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > >While I have the PD-user template on my user page and would encourage > >like-minded folks to do the same, I feel it is mostly a political > >statement than of real practical benefit. > > +1 > >

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Dave Stubbs
> -- AS1 / AS3 > > Dave - I think your definition of donkey balls might be different to > mine. ;) Or rather, when you've been sucking horse balls for several > years then donkey balls don't seem very different. > > Er, I should probably rephrase that. > Yeah, I don't think the relative merits of

Re: [OSM-talk] Hi-vis vest with OpenStreetMap Logo & "Surveyor" Text

2008-05-02 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Graham Smith >Sent: 02 May 2008 4:50 PM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: [OSM-talk] Hi-vis vest with OpenStreetMap Logo & "Surveyor" Text > >Hi folks, > >I'm in the process of getting a custom high-visibility safety vest >printed for myself, for OSM surveying work, as I do most of my surveying

[OSM-talk] Hi-vis vest with OpenStreetMap Logo & "Surveyor" Text

2008-05-02 Thread Graham Smith
Hi folks, I'm in the process of getting a custom high-visibility safety vest printed for myself, for OSM surveying work, as I do most of my surveying on-foot and sometimes find myself near busy roads, etc. It's also a great way to raise the profile of OSM, whilst offering a real health and sa

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Thanks for some really helpful and interesting responses. (Thanks especially to Tom C for a very valuable perspective.) -- API The API has come up a lot. I've said before and will happily restate now that I think it would be great to get Potlatch talking Rails on the serverside, rather tha

Re: [OSM-talk] WTF ! (about gps traces)

2008-05-02 Thread Doru-Julian Bugariu
Steven Le Roux schrieb: Hi there, hey dude, what's that http://openstreetmap.org/user/wwwFrank/traces/104165 ?? Download data, rename it to blah.gpx and load it into JOSM. Looks OK to me. Probably more than one gpx track combined. Taking a look at the OSM data with JOSM in that area, I ca

Re: [OSM-talk] WTF ! (about gps traces)

2008-05-02 Thread wiseLYNX
way funny.. and, having a look at the map already done there, it seems that there's a lot of POIs without a reason to be there.. Enrico Manzini Steven Le Roux wrote: > Hi there, > > hey dude, what's that > http://openstreetmap.org/user/wwwFrank/traces/104165 ?? > > -- > Steven Le Roux > Jabbe

Re: [OSM-talk] WTF ! (about gps traces)

2008-05-02 Thread Lauri Hahne
That's propably the trace viewer sucking horribly. If you look at his other traces, you can see that he has got other traces like that which are apparently exported from a gis system. 2008/5/2 Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi there, > > hey dude, what's that > http://openstreetmap.org/use

Re: [OSM-talk] WTF ! (about gps traces)

2008-05-02 Thread Andy Allan
When you try editing it, you can see the intersections of the GPS lines match points along the ways. I suspect that the nodes are a valid trace with bogus timestamps, so the points on the trace are out-of-order, and it looks a mess when you join them. Other explanations are of course possible! Ch

[OSM-talk] WTF ! (about gps traces)

2008-05-02 Thread Steven Le Roux
Hi there, hey dude, what's that http://openstreetmap.org/user/wwwFrank/traces/104165?? -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread SteveC
On 2 May 2008, at 12:38, Christopher Schmidt wrote: > Some things don't require referential integreity: selecting ways/nodes > within a bounding box can't hurt the referential integrity of the > database (so long as the code is well-maintained), so the harm in > converting those methods (which are

Re: [OSM-talk] New Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Sent: 01 May 2008 11:37 PM >To: Richard Fairhurst >Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] New Potlatch > >> - When you add a point into a way where it crosses another way, >> Potlatch automatically makes an intersection. > >Is this 'feature' able to be turned

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 12:27:38PM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > > I won't pretend that I know nearly as much about the rails code as you > > do, but it seems like some of these would be better abstracted out. If > > that were the case -- that is, that all the Rails code on the site used > > the same

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread SteveC
Richard I'm sorry you think informal private chats are now in the public domain, I'll keep it in mind. All This is not quite what happened. For a start, this doesn't really have anything to do with CloudMade, it started a long time before that. It's about the maintainability and quality o

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 08:35:06AM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: >> To summarise I think we both want the same thing, but you perhaps >> think somebody should just sit down and bang an AMF version of the >> current

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 08:35:06AM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > To summarise I think we both want the same thing, but you perhaps > think somebody should just sit down and bang an AMF version of the > current XML API and I'm happy with trying to incrementally move > towards that position? Well, I do

Re: [OSM-talk] Wide tracks with cycle access

2008-05-02 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Ari Torhamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > pe, 2008-05-02 kello 00:28 +0200, Martin Simon kirjoitti: > > Am Donnerstag, 1. Mai 2008 13:37:32 schrieb Andy Robinson (blackadder): > > > OK, you're totally right at this, it seems difficult to define structure > of > > roa

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread bvh
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 10:25:50AM +0100, Dave Stubbs wrote: > OTH I don't know much about AS3 so I can't say whether it's much better in > this regard, but from a quick scan of it, I'd say it was. I think the main > problem is the likely-hood of an opensource player being available for it. > AS3 m

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder)
Tom Hughes wrote: >Sent: 02 May 2008 9:51 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch > >In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> For most purposes AS3 probably is a better language - except for th

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [warning - long ponderous e-mail follows!] > > Hi all, > > A fairly weighty issue concerning the future of Potlatch has arisen, > and I'm completely baffled as to what to do - so I thought I'd "ask the > community" for

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For most purposes AS3 probably is a better language - except for the > fairly major proviso there's no open-source player even in development. As far as I'm concerned this is quite a key point, although I know

Re: [OSM-talk] help with coastline

2008-05-02 Thread Rob Reid
Ulf Mehlig wrote the following on 01/05/2008 08:47: > Hello openstreetmap experts, > > I tried to add a few details to a segment of the coastline of northern > Brazil, but as I see today on Mapnik this caused some disorder in the > coastline rendering (it looked almost ok in the slippy map/Osmarend

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread elvin ibbotson
Richard, I use both JOSM and Potlatch. Each has its own strengths and would be missed if it were to disappear. Equally, each could (and I'm sure will) be improved. I'm not sure what Cloudmade's motivation is. As a commercial company are they looking to make money from their new editor? Or

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] The future of Potlatch

2008-05-02 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Christopher Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2> On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 12:24:35AM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> "Tom Carden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > I think the fact that it has its own API is a much bi