Re: [OSM-talk] yahoo and josm

2009-01-27 Thread sergio sevillano
Stephen Hope escribió: I originally had problems with that as well. Things to check - Are you sure you have replaced the wms plugin? The text in the plugin area of preferences should say something like "This is the enhanced version of the WMS plugin..." If it doesn't, disable it, restart JOSM,

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Andreas Fritsche
Hi, > The general rule in OSM is that multiple values for a tag must be > separated by a semicolon. [..] Another general rule in OSM is that OSM only maps features that are _currently there_. Why should we bother with old city names. They are replaced and thus obsolete. There is no Leningrad any

Re: [OSM-talk] yahoo and josm

2009-01-27 Thread Stephen Hope
I originally had problems with that as well. Things to check - Are you sure you have replaced the wms plugin? The text in the plugin area of preferences should say something like "This is the enhanced version of the WMS plugin..." If it doesn't, disable it, restart JOSM, then enable it again and

Re: [OSM-talk] yahoo and josm

2009-01-27 Thread LeedsTracker
2009/1/28 Nathan Mixter : > I copied the web-kit folder to the same directory that the josm build files > are in. I am still getting the red exception occurred when trying to run the > wms layer. Any ideas why its still doing it? Do I need firefox 2 rather than > firefox 3? I tried to install both

[OSM-talk] yahoo and josm

2009-01-27 Thread Nathan Mixter
I copied the web-kit folder to the same directory that the josm build files are in. I am still getting the red exception occurred when trying to run the wms layer. Any ideas why its still doing it? Do I need firefox 2 rather than firefox 3? I tried to install both at the same time but haven't t

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-27 Thread Erik Lundin
Erik Lundin skrev: > * How are blank nodes removed? > * Is there a way to find such nodes in the database in the case there > are more of them out there? I correct myself. It's stated on the web site that the nodes are deleted, so that's why they are blank. :-| But how can the nodes be listed a

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-27 Thread Erik Lundin
Frederik Ramm skrev: > I made the relation editable again by removing way #29370058 from it. I > have not investigated why this way causes trouble; it probably > references a deleted object or something like that. I compared the way downloaded to JOSM and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Matthias Julius
Simon Ward writes: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 04:36:08PM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote: >> That's actually error prone if someone enters a semicolon who doesn't >> know about the rule. I think that should better be reversed or '\;' >> be used as separator because this is much less likely to appear

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Bullock wrote: > However - I tried to use JOSM to add a way to the relation - and it still > gave a "412 Precondition Failed" response. I made the relation editable again by removing way #29370058 from it. I have not investigated why this way causes trouble; it probably references

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-27 Thread Richard Bullock
>>> nodes. Using the script I found that the relation (21359) contains a >>> reference to way 8135282, which was deleted on January 5th >>> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/8135282/history). I tried to >>> remove the way from the relation, but get the same error while >>> uploading. >>> >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Merging changed osm nodes in JOSM

2009-01-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Sam Vekemans wrote: > Is it possable to have an option of merging both changes? To the best of my knowledge, the JOSM merge dialog does exactly that. It shows you both versions and allows you to pick'n'mix. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008

Re: [OSM-talk] Begginer question: Why road is not rendered in mapnik?

2009-01-27 Thread John3478 John3478
I am still stuck in rendering zoom level 8 to 16. 1. From postgres sql log, I can see if I modify the table name in osm.xml, it will prompt table not found. So, it seems like it able to connect to database. but I am stuck why it is not able to render any data from database. looks like its only get

[OSM-talk] Merging changed osm nodes in JOSM

2009-01-27 Thread Sam Vekemans
An idea: You know how josm reacts to situations where 2 mappers were working at the same time, and the user uploads the change; then the list of conflicts are shown. What if 1 mapper was saying that the road is 'bicycle=yes' and the other mapper was adding in an alternate name & correcting the spe

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Simon Ward
[Moved to dev; followups to dev] On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:58:25PM +, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > > I think multiple keys with the same name should be allowed for a > > node/way/relation. AFAIK it's only the editors that don't currently let > > you do this. > > Yes, the API and data fo

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-27 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 27 Jan 2009, at 21:42, Matthias Julius wrote: > Shaun McDonald writes: > >> > > Does the API verify the integrety of a way that is referenced in a > relation and that itself is not being uploaded? > Yes. Shaun ___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Future license upgrades, the heart of the matter

2009-01-27 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 01:41:06AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: > * WHAT changes can be made to the license once it is accepted; I think this should be limited to avoid overstepping. We define the basic things we want the licence to do—collective attribution, share alike for derived data sets, agg

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Simon Ward wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 04:36:08PM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote: >> > This doesn't account for multiple names in the same language, though. I >> > can also imagine a place having several old names over time, while >> > old_name=* really only a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Future license upgrades, the heart of the matter

2009-01-27 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 08:59:26PM +, 80n wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > > * WHAT changes can be made to the license once it is accepted; > > > > If section 11 of the GDFL 3.1 is anything to go by [1], then pretty much > anything is possible. GNU licence

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 04:36:08PM -0500, Matthias Julius wrote: > > This doesn’t account for multiple names in the same language, though. I > > can also imagine a place having several old names over time, while > > old_name=* really only allows for one. > > IMHO there really needs to be a well d

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Cycle Infrastructure in US

2009-01-27 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 27 Jan 2009, at 21:45, Brandon Aguirre wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm tagging cycle infrastructure with the lcn_ref tag but need advice > since it was developed for Europe where they designate routes > numerically like a highway system. What do you suggest I put as the > lcn_ref for various cycle i

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging Cycle Infrastructure in US

2009-01-27 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/1/27 Brandon Aguirre : > Hey all, > > I'm tagging cycle infrastructure with the lcn_ref tag but need advice > since it was developed for Europe where they designate routes > numerically like a highway system. What do you suggest I put as the > lcn_ref for various cycle inf. (I put yes as a pla

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-27 Thread Erik Lundin
Shaun McDonald skrev: There could be another way that has been deleted, or there is a node that is reference by a way that is missing. Does your script look at those? Yes, it does. I tested to remove a couple of ways and nodes, and the script detected all faulty references. The script is att

[OSM-talk] Tagging Cycle Infrastructure in US

2009-01-27 Thread Brandon Aguirre
Hey all, I'm tagging cycle infrastructure with the lcn_ref tag but need advice since it was developed for Europe where they designate routes numerically like a highway system. What do you suggest I put as the lcn_ref for various cycle inf. (I put yes as a placeholder but it looks so lame)

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-27 Thread Matthias Julius
Shaun McDonald writes: > On 27 Jan 2009, at 20:46, Erik Lundin wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I had a similar problem earlier this month. The correspondence can be >> found in the mail archives: >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-January/thread.html#33157 >> >> The problem is that JOSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Matthias Julius
Simon Ward writes: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 02:50:37PM -0500, Russ Nelson wrote: >> >> On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Manfred Podzkiewitz wrote: >> >> > Hello, i have a question about the handling of unoffical, or ethnic, >> > or >> > historic names of towns and villages. >> The TIGER import i

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-ee Estonia

2009-01-27 Thread Mike Collinson
There is now a talk-ee - Estonia-specific topics and discussion mailing list available. Thank you to Jaak Laineste for initiating and hosting this forum. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.o

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-27 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 27 Jan 2009, at 20:46, Erik Lundin wrote: > Hi, > > I had a similar problem earlier this month. The correspondence can be > found in the mail archives: > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-January/thread.html#33157 > > The problem is that JOSM gets an error while uploading a re

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Frank Mohr
Andy Allan wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: >> On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Manfred Podzkiewitz wrote: >> >>> Hello, i have a question about the handling of unoffical, or ethnic, >>> or >>> historic names of towns and villages. >> The TIGER import in the USA uses name_1

Re: [OSM-talk] Can not remove a way from a relation

2009-01-27 Thread Erik Lundin
Hi, I had a similar problem earlier this month. The correspondence can be found in the mail archives: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-January/thread.html#33157 The problem is that JOSM gets an error while uploading a relation that references a non-existent way. I wrote a lit

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Yann Coupin
Le 27 janv. 09 à 21:02, Simon Ward a écrit : > This doesn’t account for multiple names in the same language, > though. I > can also imagine a place having several old names over time, while > old_name=* really only allows for one. The general rule in OSM is that multiple values for a tag must

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 19:57 +, Andy Allan wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > > > On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Manfred Podzkiewitz wrote: > > > >> Hello, i have a question about the handling of unoffical, or ethnic, > >> or > >> historic names of towns and villages

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 02:50:37PM -0500, Russ Nelson wrote: > > On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Manfred Podzkiewitz wrote: > > > Hello, i have a question about the handling of unoffical, or ethnic, > > or > > historic names of towns and villages. > The TIGER import in the USA uses name_1 for alte

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Future license upgrades, the heart of the matter

2009-01-27 Thread Rob Myers
Frederik Ramm wrote: > * WHAT changes can be made to the license once it is accepted; > * WHO can make these changes (whom do we trust to make them); and > * HOW will such changes become vetted by the community, if at all. > > These are the decisions that can absolutely not be postponed until aft

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: > > On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Manfred Podzkiewitz wrote: > >> Hello, i have a question about the handling of unoffical, or ethnic, >> or >> historic names of towns and villages. > The TIGER import in the USA uses name_1 for alternate names. P

Re: [OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Russ Nelson
On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:08 PM, Manfred Podzkiewitz wrote: > Hello, i have a question about the handling of unoffical, or ethnic, > or > historic names of towns and villages. The TIGER import in the USA uses name_1 for alternate names. Perhaps we should view all tags starting with "name" as pot

[OSM-talk] Handling of towns with different or alternative names

2009-01-27 Thread Manfred Podzkiewitz
Hello, i have a question about the handling of unoffical, or ethnic, or historic names of towns and villages. Did you ever have searched for "Krung Thep", which is the new offical name of the capital of Thailand? I think, this town is better known to you as "Bangkok". So, how do we handle historic

Re: [OSM-talk] gosmore weirdness

2009-01-27 Thread Tanveer Singh
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Nic Roets wrote: > Hello Tanveer, > > The rebuild only works under Linux, *BSD and MacOS. Also note which SVN > version you will need for WinCE compatibility. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Gosmore#Pak-File_generation_on_Windows_platform > > I'm not di

Re: [OSM-talk] gosmore weirdness

2009-01-27 Thread Nic Roets
Hello Tanveer, The rebuild only works under Linux, *BSD and MacOS. Also note which SVN version you will need for WinCE compatibility. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Gosmore#Pak-File_generation_on_Windows_platform I'm not distributing files for US states at the moment. But if you want Ca

Re: [OSM-talk] GroundTruth, a new mapmaking tool for Garmins - released

2009-01-27 Thread Roman Neumüller
Well done! The first time I got a map of my region onto my Garmin ;-) The cookbook is enough to get it done... Bravo! Roman > I'm pleased to announce the first release of GroundTruth, a new tool for > creating Garmin maps using OpenStreetMap data. You can find more > information on my blog post:

[OSM-talk] gosmore weirdness

2009-01-27 Thread Tanveer Singh
I downloaded gosmore.zip for windows, and on the cygwin terminal tried a ./gosmore rebuild ./california.osm However it gives error message that gosmore.pak not found. Any idea what to do about that? Does it work only on linux m/c? ___ talk mailing list t

Re: [OSM-talk] Controlling Label Position

2009-01-27 Thread Claudius Henrichs
Am 26.01.2009 19:04, Kærast: > Hi, > > Is there a recognised way of controlling where the label for > leisure=park should go? At the moment it's rendering right over the > top of the bandstand and I would like to be able to shift it to > somewhere out of the way. The wiki suggests that relation r

[OSM-talk] why there is no historic column from planet_osm_line?

2009-01-27 Thread John3478 John3478
>From the generate image tiles, there is a select for historic column, however in the database there is no historic column in planet_osm_line. Do you guys know why there is ho historic column? or the osm_template that I used is old version already? Thanks in advances, John (select way from plan