[OSM-talk] Proposed feature: natural=rocks

2009-03-26 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, proposed feature: natural=rocks this is related to waterways & waterbodies these are mostly nodes & areas. Good for water navigation. Is there another tag already in use that would do the same thing? Thanks, Sam ___ talk mailing list talk@openstree

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2009-03-26 Thread Mike Harris
Richard Thanks for this ... very helpful - a few comments - 1. Path: I would prefer to use highway=footway for a path that has (almost always illegally) not been reinstated across a ploughed field IF I know it to be a public right of way, e.g. from the black and yellow waymarks that people lik

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2009-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2009 09:29, Mike Harris wrote: > Richard > > Thanks for this ... very helpful - a few comments - > > 1. Path: I would prefer to use highway=footway for a path that has > (almost always illegally) not been reinstated across a ploughed field IF ... I think by trying to switch the int

Re: [OSM-talk] i-gotU GPS logger and Linux: bad news

2009-03-26 Thread Michael Hofmann
Hi, > During the recent Perugia Mapping Party, Cristiano Givando bought > us a batch of [1] i-gotU GPS logger. > > I tried to use them in Linux, but with no luck till now. Igotu2gpx 0.1.1 has been released. Igotu2gpx is a linux command line program to dump the internal flash of the gps tracker

[OSM-talk] Tactile Paving - Pflastersteine für B lindenstöcke

2009-03-26 Thread Lulu-Ann
Hello, please have a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tactile_paving Thanks. Lulu-Ann -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___

[OSM-talk] more OSM coming soon

2009-03-26 Thread Chris Hill
I've been getting a lot of tiles with the 'more OSM coming soon' message on Mapnik, both yesterday and today at various zoom levels. The tiles appear quickly rather than after a long delay as occasionally happens. Is anyone else seeing this? Does it need attention? cheers, Chris

Re: [OSM-talk] more OSM coming soon

2009-03-26 Thread Shaun McDonald
This is the weekly re-import of the data, when the render daemon is stopped for the duration. Shaun On 26 Mar 2009, at 11:45, Chris Hill wrote: > > I've been getting a lot of tiles with the 'more OSM coming soon' > message on Mapnik, both yesterday and today at various zoom levels. > The

Re: [OSM-talk] more OSM coming soon

2009-03-26 Thread Chris Hill
Thanks, though I can't say I've noticed it before. cheers, Chris - Original Message > From: Shaun McDonald > To: Chris Hill > Cc: Talk OSM > Sent: Thursday, 26 March, 2009 12:00:04 > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] more OSM coming soon > > This is the weekly re-import of the data, when t

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2009-03-26 Thread Mike Harris
David I'm not sure I understand your comment. What is avoidably subjective? The highway= tags and the foot/bicycle/horse= tags are all based on what is observable objectively on the ground - either physical or signage (supplemented sometimes by local knowledge of legal status - also objective). T

Re: [OSM-talk] more OSM coming soon

2009-03-26 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Shaun McDonald wrote: > This is the weekly re-import of the data, when the render daemon is > stopped for the duration. I'm not entirely sure that it is, especially since I'd have expected it to restart yesterday morning (or maybe this morning - again, not sure w

[OSM-legal-talk] just feels like time for a poem

2009-03-26 Thread Mikel Maron
ooo-dee-bee-ell sure does feel like hell! lightning rods, lengthy flames where we going to assign the blame? hey! forget the naming names finger points all out of joint again eye-aaa-enn-aaa-ell doesn't that ring your bells? a little courtesy, tip of the hat forget the fail, go lolcat we have

Re: [OSM-talk] just feels like time for a poem

2009-03-26 Thread John McKerrell
edible map? nom nom nom On 26 Mar 2009, at 15:11, Mikel Maron wrote: > > > ooo-dee-bee-ell > sure does feel like hell! > lightning rods, lengthy flames > where we going to assign the blame? > hey! forget the naming names > finger points all out of joint > > again > > eye-aaa-enn-aaa-ell > doesn't

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2009-03-26 Thread Richard Mann
Before we all get too depressed, I think I agree with both of you (Dave / Mike) that any changes to tagging should be backwardly-compatible, as far as practical (or at least minimise the "wrongness" if the old tagging is unchanged). But we also need a scheme that is simple, effective and shows wh

[OSM-talk] Square gridlines appeared on slippy map

2009-03-26 Thread Ed Avis
On the OSM front page the map now has what look like square gridlines, making Greenland look made out of graph paper. Is this a permanent change? The pattern of the grid is square throughout the map, which doesn't match the Mercator projection, so what are they intended to show? -- Ed Avis _

Re: [OSM-talk] just feels like time for a poem

2009-03-26 Thread Donald Allwright
>edible map? nom nom nom It's hard to see how an inedible map could be "deliciously open". :-) On 26 Mar 2009, at 15:11, Mikel Maron wrote: > > > ooo-dee-bee-ell > sure does feel like hell! > lightning rods, lengthy flames > where we going to assign the blame? > hey! forget the naming names > fi

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2009-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2009 15:35, Richard Mann wrote: > Before we all get too depressed, I think I agree with both of you (Dave > / Mike) that any changes to tagging should be backwardly-compatible, as > far as practical (or at least minimise the "wrongness" if the old > tagging is unchanged). > > But we a

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2009-03-26 Thread Mike Harris
Thanks Richard - my oops! _ From: Richard Mann [mailto:richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com] Sent: 26 March 2009 15:37 To: Mike Harris Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] highway=cycle&footway Oops, slipped off including "talk". I've forwarded my last to the list; you may like to do so also...

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2009-03-26 Thread Richard Mann
I thought a quick tagwatch of "footway/path/bridleway/cycleway" might be pertinent. Europe: footway 556k - cycleway 166k - path 66k - bridleway 11k Germany: footway 268k - cycleway 57k - path 45k - bridleway 1k Netherlands: footway 19k - cycleway 38k - path 1k - bridleway 0k Great Britain: footwa

[OSM-talk] The Jon Burgess edit of osm2pgsql.exe disappeared

2009-03-26 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Hi, Jon Burgess compiled sometimes in November 2008 Windows executable of osm2pgsql. It used to be at http://tile.openstreetmap.org/direct/osm2pgsql.zip but now it has been disappeared. Does anybody know where to find it now? -Jukka Rahkonen- ___ ta

Re: [OSM-talk] more OSM coming soon

2009-03-26 Thread Jon Burgess
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 14:43 +, Andy Allan wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Shaun McDonald > wrote: > > This is the weekly re-import of the data, when the render daemon is > > stopped for the duration. > > I'm not entirely sure that it is, especially since I'd have expected > it to r

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2009-03-26 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thursday 26 March 2009, Richard Mann wrote: > I thought a quick tagwatch of "footway/path/bridleway/cycleway" might > be pertinent. > > Europe: footway 556k - cycleway 166k - path 66k - bridleway 11k > Germany: footway 268k - cycleway 57k - path 45k - bridleway 1k > Netherlands: footway 19k - cy

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2009-03-26 Thread Someoneelse
Richard Mann wrote: > Only the British > use "bridleway". The Dutch have markedly few footways (which probably > indicates "cycleway" is being used quite loosely). My recollection of both urban and rural bits of the Netherlands is that there actually are fewer footways than cycleways - I've ha

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2009-03-26 Thread David Earl
On 26/03/2009 17:14, Richard Mann wrote: > highway=cycleway+designation=public_bridleway does the job with the > minimum of fuss. and requires us either to change the renderers or mislead horse riders. David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.o

[OSM-talk] Best for routing ? [Implementing driving directions like Google Maps-with text assistance]

2009-03-26 Thread rajan vaish
Hi,For a project in my mind,which implements driving directions like Google Maps ,as in, along with route on map,we get text along the same describing the path/route from the source to destination,step by step.What do you guys think will be the best routing technique/library/API ? (language not a

Re: [OSM-talk] The Jon Burgess edit of osm2pgsql.exe disappeared

2009-03-26 Thread Jon Burgess
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 17:44 +, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: > Hi, > > Jon Burgess compiled sometimes in November 2008 Windows executable of > osm2pgsql. > It used to be at http://tile.openstreetmap.org/direct/osm2pgsql.zip but now > it > has been disappeared. Does anybody know where to find it no

Re: [OSM-talk] The Jon Burgess edit of osm2pgsql.exe disappeared

2009-03-26 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Jon Burgess wrote: > On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 17:44 +, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Jon Burgess compiled sometimes in November 2008 Windows executable of >> osm2pgsql. >> It used to be at http://tile.openstreetmap.org/direct/osm2pgsql.zip but now >> it >> has been disappeared. Does an

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] just feels like time for a poem

2009-03-26 Thread Simon Ward
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 03:31:51PM +, John McKerrell wrote: > edible map? nom nom nom Cake! \o/ Simon -- A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works.—John Gall signature.asc Description: Digital signature _

Re: [OSM-talk] just feels like time for a poem

2009-03-26 Thread Łukasz Jernaś
2009/3/26 Simon Ward : > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 03:31:51PM +, John McKerrell wrote: >> edible map? nom nom nom > > Cake! \o/ The cake is a lie! -- Łukasz [DeeJay1] Jernaś ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Best for routing ? [Implementing driving directions like Google Maps-with text assistance]

2009-03-26 Thread Igor Shubovych
You could also try CloudMade Routing API. http://developers.cloudmade.com/projects/show/routing-http-api It is based on OSM data, so when you add roads, it will give you more exact result. This routing API is very fast, simple, and has some convenient options like result type (the fastest or the s

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (man_made=breakwater)

2009-03-26 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi all, It looks like this feature is ready for voting (sorry, im not yet an expert in the process) :-) and has been for some time, the wiki help page says 2 weeks... it's been 2 years :-) Am i supposed to post a comment on the original contributors page? (to get it moving faster) Cheers, Sam __

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (man_made=dyke)

2009-03-26 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi all, It looks like this tag also could be set to a vote, i think there is agreement that it gets spelled this way, as the OSM standard is for british english, ... and not a "waterway" because it is man_made and usually concrete.. like a 'dam' yet it's purpose is not to retain water from flowing

Re: [OSM-talk] Square gridlines appeared on slippy map

2009-03-26 Thread Jon Burgess
On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 15:42 +, Ed Avis wrote: > On the OSM front page the map now has what look like square gridlines, making > Greenland look made out of graph paper. Is this a permanent change? > > The pattern of the grid is square throughout the map, which doesn't match the > Mercator proj

[OSM-talk] man_made=fish passage (tag proposal too)

2009-03-26 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, Just looking at the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Hydrography_Dataset which is similar to the Canadian http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GeoBaseNHN_Map_Features dataset, There are a few other features also, that it would be worth some discussion to see if i should be adding the

Re: [OSM-talk] man_made=fish passage (tag proposal too)

2009-03-26 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Sam Vekemans wrote: > I think it's worth creating a tag for a man_made=fish_passage > [...] > I know that not all features that are available MUST get imported > but i do think that each feature deserves some discussions before > being dismissed > > Any commen

Re: [OSM-talk] man_made=fish passage (tag proposal too)

2009-03-26 Thread Sam Vekemans
Thanks, just in comparing GeoBase with TIGER, its handy to keep consistant (as much as possable) Sam On 3/26/09, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Sam Vekemans > wrote: >> I think it's worth creating a tag for a man_made=fish_passage >> [...] >> I know that not

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap in "The Times - atlas of the world" book

2009-03-26 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi all, i just wanted to let you all know that on page 57 of this big atlas book, openstreetmap is listed! (a big heavy book) So kids studing geography will see it! Its ISBN 978 0 00 7236701 - "The greatest book on earth" www.timesatlas.com twelfth edition 2007 -it shows "collaborative mapping of

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (man_made=dyke)

2009-03-26 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Sam Vekemans wrote: > Hi all, > It looks like this tag also could be set to a vote, i think there is > agreement that it gets spelled this way, as the OSM standard is for > british english, ... and not a "waterway" because it is man_made  and > usually concrete.. l

Re: [OSM-talk] just feels like time for a poem

2009-03-26 Thread D Tucny
2009/3/27 Łukasz Jernaś > 2009/3/26 Simon Ward : > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 03:31:51PM +, John McKerrell wrote: > >> edible map? nom nom nom > > > > Cake! \o/ > > The cake is a lie! > Pie? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.

Re: [OSM-talk] just feels like time for a poem

2009-03-26 Thread Mikel Maron
I will not confirm or deny the cake rumor! -Mikel (phone) On Mar 26, 2009, at 16:40, Łukasz Jernaś wrote: 2009/3/26 Simon Ward : On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 03:31:51PM +, John McKerrell wrote: edible map? nom nom nom Cake! \o/ The cake is a lie! -- Łukasz [DeeJay1] Jernaś

[OSM-talk] topomaps in qct file format

2009-03-26 Thread maning sambale
I have several copyright-free topomaps in qct format I plan to trace roads for OSM Philippines . Any ideas how I can convert them into a georectified raster like geotiff? -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.B