Re: [OSM-talk] tag clarification.

2010-09-21 Thread John Harvey
There are a lot of different views on tagging and correctness. Some common views I have seen: * What is in the wiki is law. * What renders in (pick your renderer) is law * Try to follow the data that exists * Anything goes The wiki answer to your question (which apply to pitch and which is sp

Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?

2010-09-21 Thread john whelan
This is a major concern of mine, which is why I won't even bother asking for local government data at the moment even though it is being offered. Some one else can do the asking and explaining about the "flexible licensing" we seem to be asking for because I don't want the responsibility of asking

Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?

2010-09-21 Thread David Murn
On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 00:16 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Wont anything in writing have to be re-negotiated soon? > > No. If you get something in writing that says "you can use this for > OpenStreetMap" then wherever "OpenStreetMap" goes, the data goes too. If we cant even convince a mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] A warning about gates and other barriers

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 September 2010 02:38, Peter Wendorff wrote: > I would say, it's NOT an error to not map the access tags itself - sometimes > the mapper don't know this facts - as mentioned in this thread before. > But I totally agree, that it's a mandatory tag to be sure at usage, so it > should be displaye

Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?

2010-09-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
David, David Murn wrote: Which is completely fair. If you represent yourself as a non-profit, you cant build up a collection of 'free' material then use it commercially. What about for example if you represented yourself as a non-profit wanting to use an artists song, but then decided to re-li

Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?

2010-09-21 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 05:44:12 +1000 David Murn wrote: > That would then include the current and any future > > license. And that is a problem enough for current contributors, that a future licence is uncertain, so how are you going to expect others to accept it? ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Update my OSM Tiles after Diff DB Application??

2010-09-21 Thread maw269
Thanks Frederik, My end goal is to create a World Wide OSM slippy map. So, from you post it seems I may need to step back before I can even proceed to worry about expiring and updating tiles. How would I create a high performance world map that is useable to many users at once? What stack wou

Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?

2010-09-21 Thread David Murn
On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 13:12 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > This is a complex topic in itself; some governments might say "you can > have the data, it is for noncommercial purposes only but you said you > are noncommercial...?" and then you have to explain that yes, we are > noncommercial but the

Re: [OSM-talk] A warning about gates and other barriers

2010-09-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, sergio sevillano wrote: thats a good idea lets put access a mandatory tag (not just useful) along barrier=gate There are no mandatory tags. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ talk mai

Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?

2010-09-21 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 13:12:54 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > If you get something in writing, the best thing to get is something > where they allow you to use their data "for publication as part of > OpenStreetMap". That would then include the current and any future > license. Do not under any circu

Re: [OSM-talk] Update my OSM Tiles after Diff DB Application??

2010-09-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, maw269 wrote: I am creating my own tile server for OSM using Windows Server 2003. I need help on how to make tiles expire and create new tiles after updating my postgres DB with osm diffs. I just answered the following on help.osm.org; if this discussion here yields additional interesting

Re: [OSM-talk] A warning about gates and other barriers

2010-09-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
On 21.09.2010 18:17, sergio sevillano wrote: El 21/09/2010, a las 17:02, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió: 2010/9/21 John Smith: On 21 September 2010 18:38, Ed Avis wrote: However, if you were writing a routing program, it would be unwise to assume that you can drive through a barrier=gate if n

Re: [OSM-talk] A warning about gates and other barriers

2010-09-21 Thread sergio sevillano
El 21/09/2010, a las 17:02, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió: > 2010/9/21 John Smith : >> On 21 September 2010 18:38, Ed Avis wrote: >>> However, if you were writing a routing program, it would be unwise to assume >>> that you can drive through a barrier=gate if no additional access is >>> specifie

[OSM-talk] Update my OSM Tiles after Diff DB Application??

2010-09-21 Thread maw269
I am creating my own tile server for OSM using Windows Server 2003. I need help on how to make tiles expire and create new tiles after updating my postgres DB with osm diffs. Since I am using Windows 2003, I can not use mod_tile. Here is my stack so far: Data: OSM Planet dump DB: Postgres with

Re: [OSM-talk] A warning about gates and other barriers

2010-09-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/21 John Smith : > On 21 September 2010 18:38, Ed Avis wrote: >> However, if you were writing a routing program, it would be unwise to assume >> that you can drive through a barrier=gate if no additional access is >> specified. >> Often a gate is locked shut. > > You can only make that assu

Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?

2010-09-21 Thread Oliver
On 20.09.2010 21:04, Valent Turkovic wrote: > I would love to hear more positive feedback from people who have made > contact between OSM and local government and/or cities. Yesterday Emilie sent a tweet that Paris is no using a bicycle routing engine based on OpenStreetMap: http://vgps.paris.fr/

Re: [OSM-talk] tag clarification.

2010-09-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/21 Eric Jarvies : > Hello, > > I would like to start adding the spanish names to the points/ways I enter, > but need further clarification as to the correct way. > > Is this how to tag them?; > name:English Name > name:es:Español name is the name in local language, it does not have to be

Re: [OSM-talk] tag clarification.

2010-09-21 Thread Eric Jarvies
Hello, I would like to start adding the spanish names to the points/ways I enter, but need further clarification as to the correct way. Is this how to tag them?; name:English Name name:es:Español Or do I need to do this: name:English Name name:es es:Español Another question regarding pitch

Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?

2010-09-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: There can be a little problem if municipalities are also selling their geodata. For sure municipalities can use dual license for the original data This is a complex topic in itself; some governments might say "you can have the data, it is for noncommercial purposes

Re: [OSM-talk] Partnership between OSM and local government?

2010-09-21 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/20 Oliver : > The data can be used for any purpose (as long as it is not unlawful). Maybe I got you wrong here, but besides other legal restrictions your actions might be limited by, from the OSM point of view information and use in conjunction with illegal/unlawful actions is not prohibit

Re: [OSM-talk] A warning about gates and other barriers

2010-09-21 Thread John Smith
On 21 September 2010 18:38, Ed Avis wrote: > However, if you were writing a routing program, it would be unwise to assume > that you can drive through a barrier=gate if no additional access is > specified. > Often a gate is locked shut. You can only make that assumption for your area, however as

Re: [OSM-talk] A warning about gates and other barriers

2010-09-21 Thread Ed Avis
Richard Fairhurst systemed.net> writes: >>This is because a gate with no access tags >>implies that nothing can go through. > >Where on earth do you get that idea from? > >barrier=gate states that there's a gate. The thing about gates, as opposed >to (say) walls, is that you can open them to get

[OSM-talk] stumbled upon a greek wms server

2010-09-21 Thread Roman Neumüller
For people mapping Greece: I just stumbled upon a wms server for greece http://www.ktimatologio.gr/ktima/EN/index.php I didn't check the legals though - greece-mappers could try and contact them... Roman ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.or