David,

David Murn wrote:
Which is completely fair.  If you represent yourself as a non-profit,
you cant build up a collection of 'free' material then use it
commercially.  What about for example if you represented yourself as a
non-profit wanting to use an artists song, but then decided to
re-licence that song and sell it on a CD commercially?  Its a great way
to ensure no-one else ever trusts us with their data if we represent
ourselves as 'non-profit' again though.

I think it is quite usual for non-profits to license their output very liberally (say, PD, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA), i.e. not reqesting that their output be used non-commercially.

We are definitely non-profit and we should "represent ourselves as non-profit" all the time, but of course you are right in saying that we need to make that clear to people we're dealing with that the work which we do in our non-profit organisation (or non-organisation) is not limited to noncommercial use.

If you get something in writing, the best thing to get is something where they allow you to use their data "for publication as part of OpenStreetMap". That would then include the current and any future license. Do not under any circumstances accept data that is released "under CC-BY-SA" as this is a dead-end that will require re-negotiation soon.

Wont anything in writing have to be re-negotiated soon?

No. If you get something in writing that says "you can use this for OpenStreetMap" then wherever "OpenStreetMap" goes, the data goes too. No re-negotiation necessary. We have had several such donations in Germany where data was explicitly given to us not under license A or license B but under the terms that "this data may be used in OpenStreetMap, whatever their license".

Actually, sometimes it is easier to convince your counterpart in government to give the data to you than to have them publish it under a license (whatever the license is).

Bye
Frederik

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