On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 13:12 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote:

> This is a complex topic in itself; some governments might say "you can 
> have the data, it is for noncommercial purposes only but you said you 
> are noncommercial...?" and then you have to explain that yes, we are 
> noncommercial but the data we collect can be used commercially...

Which is completely fair.  If you represent yourself as a non-profit,
you cant build up a collection of 'free' material then use it
commercially.  What about for example if you represented yourself as a
non-profit wanting to use an artists song, but then decided to
re-licence that song and sell it on a CD commercially?  Its a great way
to ensure no-one else ever trusts us with their data if we represent
ourselves as 'non-profit' again though.

> If you get something in writing, the best thing to get is something 
> where they allow you to use their data "for publication as part of 
> OpenStreetMap". That would then include the current and any future 
> license. Do not under any circumstances accept data that is released 
> "under CC-BY-SA" as this is a dead-end that will require re-negotiation 
> soon.

Wont anything in writing have to be re-negotiated soon?  Unless you can
convince your local government to release their data under a licence
which is KNOWN will change in the not-too-distant future, once people
can agree what it should be.  There was a hard enough time getting
governments to release data under a licence written in black and white
thats been used for many years, good luck getting them to release data
when (in all fairness) you have to disclose the potential upcoming
licence change.

David


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