Re: [OSM-talk] HOT Activations for humanitarian relief

2013-02-01 Thread Pierre Béland
CORRECTION The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UNOCHA) offices for each country is involved and not only for Mali. Cut and paste is dangerous!   Pierre ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.ope

[OSM-talk] HOT Activations for humanitarian relief

2013-02-01 Thread Pierre Béland
Everybody remembers how the OSM community made the news in jan. 2010 with mapping for the Haiti Earthquake. Since then, the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) has continued collaboration with various humanitarian NGO's and UN agencies to support humanitarian organizations for various disaster

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > What about mailing list archives? Will the OSMF then start deleting > emails if they contain Google Maps links? I'd quite like the OSMF to start deleting e-mails that don't quote the previous message properly. ;) cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
You mentioned cleaning up the Wiki and the Help Q&A site. What about mailing list archives? Will the OSMF then start deleting emails if they contain Google Maps links? On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > > Because of the time constraints the removal of the google links is quit

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 02/01/2013 08:54 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: > On 1 February 2013 19:06, Jeff Meyer > wrote: > > > Fine, disagree, but please disagree with a plan for how to fund > your alternate plan, describing in detail the source of new funds > or what other OSMF activi

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
If there were no BoD, but OSM were still a true crowd driven organization, there would not have been a place to address this notice Put up a tree and you are sure to catch wind ! Geert Van: Jeff Meyer [mailto:j...@gwhat.org] Verzonden: vrijdag 1 februari 2013 19:07 Aan: Manfred A.

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 1 February 2013 19:06, Jeff Meyer wrote: > The OSMF BoD is doing the job for which its members were elected. Thank > goodness. > > There's a trademark. We've been served notice (I believe). The board has > made a decision. The chairman of the board (probably a (tm) term...) has > communicated

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Lester Caine
Christopher Woods (IWD) wrote: My opinion? All this is irrelevant and OSM is fine to continue using "geocode". IANAL but I do work in a sector concerned with intellectual property and EU law; based on extensive prior art and extensive genericised usage of the word "geocode" any trademark of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread John F. Eldredge
f.dos.san...@free.fr wrote: > It's here : > > https://docs.google.com/a/osmfoundation.org/document/d/19wLhnezowHBio9zGaJkNaCbDX-gmWNHUSdx1kdQJYY0/edit > > > - Mail original - > From: "Cartinus" > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Date: 01/02/2013 19:32:44 > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Recent ed

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi. Since no one has explained, I'd quote a part from OSMF Board Meeting Minutes: OSMF received C+D letter from someone who trademarked the word “Geocode(TM)” and asks us to remove all references to this from our web site where it is connected in some way with Google services. Simon is in con

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread f . dos . santos
It's here : https://docs.google.com/a/osmfoundation.org/document/d/19wLhnezowHBio9zGaJkNaCbDX-gmWNHUSdx1kdQJYY0/edit - Mail original - From: "Cartinus" To: talk@openstreetmap.org Date: 01/02/2013 19:32:44 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue >O really, we'

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Simon Poole
Because of the time constraints the removal of the google links is quite rough, however most (as in all except a handful) of the links were either old, outdated, or/and unused, as for example essentially all links to old errors in Google maps based on TeleAtlas data, which should have been delete

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Cartinus
On 02/01/2013 07:06 PM, Jeff Meyer wrote: > We've been served notice (I believe). O really, we've been officially served? Then that should not be a secret is it? Please put whatever communication the OSMF received in a place we can see. So we know what is actually "forbidden". Stop treating the v

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 01.02.2013 19:06, schrieb Jeff Meyer: Yes, it sounds silly to trademark geocode, yes, it's a US-only thing, but these issues are solved in courts, with real money for real lawyers, not well-reasoned arguments on email threads supported by personal moral and ethical constructs and not law. I fu

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Christopher Woods (IWD)
On 01/02/2013 18:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2013/2/1 Simon Poole : issue with respect to the trademark GEOCODE owned by Geocode, Inc. of Alexandria, Virginia, USA. There are likely to be further related edits and changes both on the wiki and the help site. Please do not add such removed lin

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/1 Simon Poole : > issue with respect to the trademark GEOCODE owned by Geocode, Inc. of > Alexandria, Virginia, USA. There are likely to be further related edits and > changes both on the wiki and the help site. Please do not add such removed > links back or undo any such edits. If you find

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Jeff Meyer
Team - The OSMF BoD is doing the job for which its members were elected. Thank goodness. There's a trademark. We've been served notice (I believe). The board has made a decision. The chairman of the board (probably a (tm) term...) has communicated this decision. Fine, disagree, but please disagr

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi. Regardless of that trademark business, I've checked Simon's edits and they mostly consist of removing links to google maps, which contain empty "geocode" parameter and them (and many other redundant parameters that editors didn't bother to omit). Some of the edits are quite funny, for examp

Re: [OSM-talk] How to create very large jpeg from OSM file

2013-02-01 Thread Robert Norris
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] How to create very large jpeg from OSM file > > If any of the available tile set styles are suitable, simply download > the tiles, at the desired zoom level, for your area of interest, stitch > together with a tool such as gdalmerge

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
On 01/02/13 17:49, Richard Weait wrote: > > @andres / @cartinus, such a trade mark has been issued by USPTO > > > > http://weait.com/content/trade-mark > > > > Anyone who cares to pick up this fight with their money, is likely to be > > able to do so very simply. > > Oh, come on: > > "Get up, stan

Re: [OSM-talk] How to create very large jpeg from OSM file

2013-02-01 Thread the Old Topo Depot
If any of the available tile set styles are suitable, simply download the tiles, at the desired zoom level, for your area of interest, stitch together with a tool such as gdalmerge, outputting to a jpg, and print. Best, On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Christian Quest wrote: > Have a look at Bigm

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread colliar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01/02/13 17:49, Richard Weait wrote: > @andres / @cartinus, such a trade mark has been issued by USPTO > > http://weait.com/content/trade-mark > > Anyone who cares to pick up this fight with their money, is likely to be > able to do so very simp

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Christopher Woods (IWD)
On 01/02/2013 16:52, Cartinus wrote: Huh? What's really touchy is the osmf being secretive about something. If you got a letter from some lawyer, then the only way you might get all the volunteers in this project to comply is telling them what is happening. Original Message

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Cartinus
Huh? What's really touchy is the osmf being secretive about something. If you got a letter from some lawyer, then the only way you might get all the volunteers in this project to comply is telling them what is happening. Original Message Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Richard Weait
Now, I'm going mapping. :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Richard Weait
@andres / @cartinus, such a trade mark has been issued by USPTO http://weait.com/content/trade-mark Anyone who cares to pick up this fight with their money, is likely to be able to do so very simply. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://l

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Jochen Topf
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 08:14:23AM -0800, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > > Why is Openstreetmap yielding to such blatant appropriation of > > the English language ? > > Because we have bigger battles to fight. Let Google piss their money away on > defending the term "geocod

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Cartinus
If you search for "geocode" in the EU trademark database[1], then you'll find that the trademark was refused last year, with no possibility for appeal. [1] -- --- m.v.g., Cartinus ___ ta

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Steve Doerr
On 01/02/2013 16:26, Pierre Béland wrote: It seems that the term geocode was first used in the fourtheen century and comes from old french. Google trademark? See http://www.memidex.com/geocode I think you'll find that's the word 'code', not 'geocode'. -- Steve ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Pierre Béland
Should we distinguish between the service and the usage of the name geocode? It seems that the term geocode was first used in the fourtheen century and comes from old french. Google trademark? See http://www.memidex.com/geocode   Pierre > > De : Richard Fairh

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Cartinus
Plugging "google geocode trademark issue" and several variations of it in three different search engines didn't give any meaningful results. So unless you can explain to us why a foundation in the UK with servers in the UK should be bothered by a trademark conflict between two other parties on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > Why is Openstreetmap yielding to such blatant appropriation of > the English language ? Because we have bigger battles to fight. Let Google piss their money away on defending the term "geocode". If OSM has $1m to spend, which it doesn't, I'd rather it spent it on making

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 01/02/2013 16:22, Simon Poole wrote: the trademark GEOCODE owned by Geocode, Inc. If you find use of the term "geocode" on our wiki or help site please replace it with a generic term (for example "search") Why is Openstreetmap yielding to such blatant appropriation of the English language ?

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Andreas Labres
On 01.02.13 16:48, Jochen Topf wrote: > I don't think use of the English language is "merely incidental" to what we > are > doing here. Can you explain why we suddenly can't use words from the English > language any more? ... And no, I don't think this is something for private > emails. 100% agr

Re: [OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Jochen Topf
Well, geocoding and search are different things. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocoding I don't think use of the English language is "merely incidental" to what we are doing here. Can you explain why we suddenly can't use words from the English language any more? And no, I don't think this is som

[OSM-talk] Recent edits in the wiki / Trademark issue

2013-02-01 Thread Simon Poole
Dear OSM Contributors As you may have noticed we have removed all links displaying the Google geocoding service from the wiki. These changes are a consequence of a legal issue with respect to the trademark GEOCODE owned by Geocode, Inc. of Alexandria, Virginia, USA. There are likely to be further

Re: [OSM-talk] Qualité des sources de données

2013-02-01 Thread THEVENON Julien
> De : Abba Asmaou Hi Abba, I think that your message should be sent to French mailing list ( talk...@openstreetmap.org ) The subscription page is here : http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr Cheers Julien___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] Qualité des sources de données

2013-02-01 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 01/02/2013 15:55, Abba Asmaou wrote: - l'utilisation des images Bing disponibles dans OSM ont un atout > pédagogique, j'aimerais donc savoir si ces images ont étés > géoréférenceés ou orthorectifiées? Oui, mais pas formidablement bien - suffisamment bien pour l'écrasante majorité des usage

[OSM-talk] Qualité des sources de données

2013-02-01 Thread Abba Asmaou
Bonjour, Je suis étudiante en master 2 SIG et Télédétection et j'aimerais contribuer à OSM dans ma région au nord du Cameroun en faisant ressortir de cela un projet de fin d'étude. Concernant les sources de données je me pose des questions et j'aimerais avoir plus d'infos: - l'utilisation des image

Re: [OSM-talk] Which renderer for high quality, printed cycle map?

2013-02-01 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 01/02/2013 14:56, Václav Řehák wrote: We ("Prague by bike" bicycle advocacy group) have created a mapnik based style for online cycle map [1]. It shows different surface type (e.g. squared texture for cobblestones) [..] http://mapa.prahounakole.cz Nice and useful use of texturing - I like it

Re: [OSM-talk] Which renderer for high quality, printed cycle map?

2013-02-01 Thread Václav Řehák
2013/1/31 Steve Bennett : > Hi all, > We'd like to produce a high quality bike map, to be printed. I'm > looking at the various renderers and wondering if anyone has a > recommendation? I don't have a recommendation for particular renderer, but if you'd like to get inspiration for the actual sty

Re: [OSM-talk] How to create very large jpeg from OSM file

2013-02-01 Thread Christian Quest
Have a look at Bigmap: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bigmap It allows to collect tiles and make a large image of them. 2013/2/1 Tanveer Singh > I went to the openstreetmap.org site, and the largest jpg I can export is > around 2000x2000 > > I was wondering whether there exists a software

[OSM-talk] How to create very large jpeg from OSM file

2013-02-01 Thread Tanveer Singh
I went to the openstreetmap.org site, and the largest jpg I can export is around 2000x2000 I was wondering whether there exists a software where I can give it the .osm file(downloaded from a service like cloudmade), and then create very big files like 8000x8000 in size? ___