Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread Roland Olbricht
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/oEm Thank you for the link. Unfortunately it does not (yet)catch also the segregated and not-segregated foot-cycle-paths that are tagged using the JOSM presets (highway=path, foot=designated, bicycle=designated, segregated=yes|no) http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/oG6

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > Just curious, do you apply the same arguments to map separate > sidewalks and sidewalks separate from cycle ways ? Or are there > reasons to treat sidewalk differently ? > Yes, if it's separated by a curb or median from the rest of the street.

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread Marc Gemis
Just curious, do you apply the same arguments to map separate sidewalks and sidewalks separate from cycle ways ? Or are there reasons to treat sidewalk differently ? m On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2017-04-27 9:19 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe : >> >> So not all of

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread Michael Andersen
For years the danish community has generally been following this recommendation: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Da:Cykelstivejledning on when to use cycleway=track and when to use separate cycleways. I'd like to express the opinion that cycleway=track is NOT bad and actually in many situat

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread nwastra
+1 > On 27 Apr 2017, at 7:39 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > I fully agree on this. Please do not remove separate cycleways, unless they > are wrongly mapped cycle lanes (an error which I encounter from time to time) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstree

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread Volker Schmidt
> > http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/oEm Nice tool, thanks! Unfortunately it does not (yet)catch also the segregated and not-segregated foot-cycle-paths that are tagged using the JOSM presets (highway=path, foot=designated, bicycle=designated, segregated=yes|no) I am not an Overpass-Turbo expert and d

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread joost schouppe
> > > Yes, there are arguments for both ways of mapping, but as long as we don't > prefer one over the other, mappers will edit back and forth without much > sense. > I just think it's too complicated an issue to just decide here and now. So a good and neutral guideline is probably the first thin

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-04-27 10:21 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe : > There are very good arguments for both sides of this discussion. I forgot another two pro distinct geometry: 4. consistency. There is a general rule that separate carriageways should be mapped separately. Why would we do it everywhere but on cycle

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread joost schouppe
There are very good arguments for both sides of this discussion. Is there a wiki article where both views are really confronted with all the arguments? (I've seen a long article about why you should use separate ways to make wheelchair routing possible, but can't find it now. But I don't remember s

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-04-27 9:19 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe : > So not all of the cases are an error, but many of them. I would like to come to a common agreement and document that highway=cycleway on distinct geometry is preferable to having just a cycleway=track attribute on a road. In the past some of the sepa

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread Benoit Fournier
> On Apr 27, 2017 9:24 AM, "joost schouppe" wrote: > > > > So not all of the cases are an error, but many of them. So is there any tool available to answer OP? Or do you have to write your own solution? > > Since no-one said so yet, I suppose there isn't. There is, the answer was given elsewhere:

Re: [OSM-talk] Finding duplicate cycleways

2017-04-27 Thread joost schouppe
So not all of the cases are an error, but many of them. So is there any tool available to answer OP? Or do you have to write your own solution? Since no-one said so yet, I suppose there isn't. Here's a quick visual check: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/oEm I think I found a nice example of a messed u