Re: [OSM-talk] Directed Editing Policy

2017-11-22 Thread Wiklund Johan
(first of all, I have not read the backlog of this conversation, only the last few messages) Hi I work for a company that does public transport information and we use OSM for footrouting, POIs and background map. This means we do very general edits without any particular directives to what, wh

Re: [OSM-talk] Directed Editing Policy

2017-11-22 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 22 November 2017, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > This policy applies as soon as someone is > > directed by a third party exactly what and how to contribute to > > OpenStreetMap. > > Maybe it would be a good idea to exclude small scale guided > editing. For example my friend asked me to s

Re: [OSM-talk] Effecting change in OpenStreetMap

2017-11-22 Thread Andy Townsend
On 21/11/2017 13:47, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote: I've posted a -dev mail about reusing nighttime of tile rendering servers. Some likes on GitHub, some reviews from passer-by's, no merge, nothing about "what to fix to get it merged". For a year. Patience you say? https://github.com

Re: [OSM-talk] Directed Editing Policy

2017-11-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 22.11.2017 09:49, Wiklund Johan wrote: > (first of all, I have not read the backlog of this conversation, only > the last few messages) [...] > Therefore I feel I am opposed to the absoluteness of the damand of > hashtagging every changeset Just as a reminder, the proposed policy leaves

Re: [OSM-talk] Directed Editing Policy

2017-11-22 Thread Wiklund Johan
I don’t read it as being optional now: "You must set up, or have someone set up, a Wiki page" ... "This page must truthfully describe" ... "a unique hashtag (to be used in the "hashtags" field of changesets, or another form of changeset tagging) for linking and" Perhaps the bullet should say "a

Re: [OSM-talk] Directed Editing Policy

2017-11-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 22.11.2017 04:16, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Pierre, I suspect the number of QA-tool-driven changes are as big, if > not much bigger than changes from the organized events and paid editing. > I agree QA tools should be regulated, but are you sure we want to do it > in the same document, and si

Re: [OSM-talk] Directed Editing Policy

2017-11-22 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Thanks Frederik. This is a good explanation. Can some of it perhaps be added to the document to make it clearer? On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:22 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 22.11.2017 04:16, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > > Pierre, I suspect the number of QA-tool-driven changes are as big, if >

Re: [OSM-talk] Directed Editing Policy

2017-11-22 Thread David Earl
I and colleagues are affected by this policy in that we maintain the map, which is based on OSM data, for the estate of the University of Cambridge (obviously, not exclusively, but in practice, most of the work is done by us, and there are some parts of the estate that aren't generally accessible).

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

2017-11-22 Thread joost schouppe
Most of the important stuff has been said already, so I'm just replying because I feel like I have to, since I'm running for the OSMF board [1] on a platform partly about "let's try and keep things fun, shall we?" [2]. Some observations : - while the Weekly did make a bit of a harsh statement, I'

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

2017-11-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
joost schooupe wrote: > It doesn't help that it was worded as "people are > saying", but then the last part of the sentence seems more > like their own opinion. Worth noting that WeeklyOSM is produced alongside and seeded by the German Wochennotiz. I don't sprechen sufficient Deutsch to be certai

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

2017-11-22 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Richard, in both languages, the main issue is the same. It says that the discussion has restarted with the negative commentary, but skips the main point - that the tool has been substantially reworked based on community feedback. It's like saying some people got rich without mentioning the bank ru

Re: [OSM-talk] Directed Editing Policy

2017-11-22 Thread Tim Waters
I've a couple of examples, and a couple of questions which might aid the discussion. I recently did some work which would label me as both a directee and a director. For each changeset I added a custom changeset tag which I thought was the sensible thing to do. It was also helpful for me to be abl

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

2017-11-22 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 22 November 2017, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > Worth noting that WeeklyOSM is produced alongside and seeded by the > German Wochennotiz. I don't sprechen sufficient Deutsch to be > certain, but it looks like the German original[1] is more carefully > worded and less presumptuous. So th

Re: [OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #382 2017-11-07-2017-11-13

2017-11-22 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Christoph, unregenerate implies I should apologize for doing a wrong thing. In the discussion, the only thing I **actually did** was I wrote a new tool and posted about it. Was I wrong to write a tool? Was I wrong to discuss it with the community? I patiently sifted through all the negative comm