[OSM-talk] weeklyOSM #405 2018-04-17-2018-04-23

2018-04-26 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 405, is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10284/ Enjoy! weeklyOSM? who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 26. Apr 2018, at 21:55, Simon Poole wrote: > > It would seem that a simple way to make the tagging in the first case > less ambivalent would be to add a tag segregated=yes/no (so a unisex=yes > segregated=yes facility would only have gender specific rooms, with > segrega

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-26 Thread Simon Poole
Somehow I don't see anything on the wiki page that supports this lengthy thread. The issue may be that there are (at least) two ways to map a toilet facility: - rough, one node or area for the whole thing, indicating that unisex, female and male apply to the options available within, making it di

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 26.04.2018 o 15:36, Martin Koppenhoefer pisze: > > 2018-04-26 14:16 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć >: > > > Isn't it like this: > > Country Belgium - official_language=de;fr;nl > Region Brussels-Capital - official_language=fr;nl > City Eupen - official_langu

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 26.04.2018 o 14:32, Philip Barnes pisze: > If a place in England should we assume its name is in English? > > Name:en=Llanymynech would be a very odd assumption. As would Hengoed > or Rhydycroesau. > > This cannot be automatic, it needs mappers with local knowledge. That's pretty sane /gene

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-04-26 14:16 GMT+02:00 Daniel Koć : > > Isn't it like this: > > Country Belgium - official_language=de;fr;nl > Region Brussels-Capital - official_language=fr;nl > City Eupen - official_language=de > > What would be wrong with this scheme? it is only about "official languages" and it would s

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Marc Gemis
Discussing this in parallel on our Riot channel. The decision was made before I joined OSM (thus before 2011). Apparently for the renderer, (as a street name with a semi-colon looks weird to non-insiders I guess). regards m On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > W dniu 26.04.2018

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 26.04.2018 o 14:49, Marc Gemis pisze: > The name for the country in the name tag is " België / Belgique / Belgien" (*) > The name for any street in Brussels is either " - " > or " - " with the majority mapped with French in > front. > > The names never use a semi-colon. Without looking at na

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Marc Gemis
The name for the country in the name tag is " België / Belgique / Belgien" (*) The name for any street in Brussels is either " - " or " - " with the majority mapped with French in front. The names never use a semi-colon. Without looking at name:fr / name:nl tags you don't know which part of the na

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Philip Barnes
Placenames are often corruptions of old languages or are in a different language to that spoken and not everywhere has an official language. If a place in England should we assume its name is in English? Name:en=Llanymynech would be a very odd assumption. As would Hengoed or Rhydycroesau. This

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 26.04.2018 o 13:53, Marc Gemis pisze: > Do you now assume that names in region B outside city C have a > namehr;nameit in the name tag? Yes, unless stated otherwise for cities E, F and G. To be clear: I assume only that if they name:hr=* and name:it=*, both are official, but that doesn't m

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 26.04.2018 o 11:51, Mateusz Konieczny pisze: > It is not handling > - regions with more than one widespread language > - features that have name tag in an atypical language In my opinion there's no single solution for atypical cases, yet it's sane to start with defaults. It can be used on m

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-26 Thread Mikel Maron
> That's one of my original questions. What (if any) data consumers are using this data/tags? > > If some popular site/app was using it to display a map that's one thing. If no-one is using the data, and many data contributors (mappers) are using "unisex=yes" as gender neutral, then it doesn't matt

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
It is not handling - regions with more than one widespread language - features that have name tag in an atypical language 26. Apr 2018 10:04 by jan...@gmail.com : > > > sri, 25. tra 2018. u 08:51 Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski <> m...@komzpa.net >

Re: [OSM-talk] Name:* tags in the local language

2018-04-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
sri, 25. tra 2018. u 08:51 Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski napisao je: > Hi, > > maps.me took approach similar to Nominatim's: each map region has > "default language" in metadata, and in case the > name: is needed but is missing, just name tag is > taken. > I think this is the best solution with

Re: [OSM-talk] [Diversity-talk] How do you mapping gender neutral toilets? What should the unisex tag mean?

2018-04-26 Thread Rory McCann
On 26/04/18 01:00, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: If most existing data is using unisex to mean "there are both male and female toilets", then it doesn't matter one bit what the wiki says. Reusing the tag to mean "there are gender-neutral toilets" will cause confusion with that existing data. That's on