Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Yves
It isn't worth it, I'm afraid you're loosing your time. Given that the two tags aren't the same (amenity=atm is an atm, atm=yes contains an atm) you'll soon have this one art piece that definitely deserves amenity=atm + atm=no. Or not. If you're not ready to consume OSM data using NOT, AND or OR

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Mark Wagner
On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 10:02:59 +0100 Dave F via talk wrote: > On 14/06/2019 07:57, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Edits would be split to not create overly large bounding boxes. > > As long as it's clearly commented, I wouldn't loose any sleep over > the physical size of the changeset. OSM should

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Jmapb
On 6/14/2019 9:50 AM, Dave F via talk wrote: On 14/06/2019 14:10, Jmapb wrote:  If there's a problem with a well-thought-out mechanical edit, it's highly likely to be localized, For mechanical/bot/automated edits, errors are more likely to be duplicated across all amendments. If 'local mappin

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
14 Jun 2019, 14:55 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > Looking at the actual sustenance values (total usage around 200 only), these > are all duplicating words which are already tagged as amenity values > (restaurant, fast_food etc.), I also haven't found specific documentation for > this key (and

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Dave F via talk
On 14/06/2019 14:10, Jmapb wrote:  If there's a problem with a well-thought-out mechanical edit, it's highly likely to be localized, For mechanical/bot/automated edits, errors are more likely to be duplicated across all amendments. If 'local mapping communities' have 'different ideas' it s

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Jmapb
On 6/14/2019 5:02 AM, Dave F via talk wrote: That the main website is antiquated & unable to display details of edits is not a reason to improve the database efficiently. Performing edits in one go makes them easier to keep track of & revert, if there's a problem. DaveF IMO, smaller and more

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 14. Juni 2019 um 09:00 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny < matkoni...@tutanota.com>: > So in total I propose to remove > > atm=yes from amenity=atm http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/JW8 > transportation=fuel from amenity=fuel http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/JWe > sustenance=restaurant from amenity=restaur

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Dave F via talk
On 14/06/2019 07:57, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Edits would be split to not create overly large bounding boxes. As long as it's clearly commented, I wouldn't loose any sleep over the physical size of the changeset. OSM should be concerning itself with quality rather than quantity. That the ma

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Dave F via talk
It's taken you longer to write your email than it would to write a line of extra code to search for them. Easier to distinguish between the two: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/JWq DaveF On 14/06/2019 08:27, Johnparis wrote: For ATMs, at least, I would propose the opposite: add the atm=yes tag to

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Simon Poole
Please no. Essentially you are saying that all attribute tags that indicate that a specific facility is present should be duplicated on the standalone objects of the same type. bin=yes on amenity=waste_basket, bench=yes on amenity=bench and so on. Am 14.06.2019 um 09:27 schrieb Johnparis: > For

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 14.06.19 08:57, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > So in total I propose to remove [...] Makes sense to me. Please document it on the wiki as per the automated editing guidlines, "You should normally document your proposed edit at an English-language wiki page named "Automated edits/username" (w

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Andrew Harvey
I think this proposed edit is reasonable, it makes things simpler without loosing any information. On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 17:30, Johnparis wrote: > From a user perspective, I want to be able to search for atm=yes to obtain > all the nearby ATMs. Removing this tag leaves me without standalone ATM

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Jun 2019, at 09:27, Johnparis wrote: > > For ATMs, at least, I would propose the opposite: add the atm=yes tag to all > amenity=atm this doesn‘t seem reasonable, atm=yes is a property to state that the feature provides an atm. With amenity=yes it is already impli

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Johnparis
For ATMs, at least, I would propose the opposite: add the atm=yes tag to all amenity=atm >From a user perspective, I want to be able to search for atm=yes to obtain all the nearby ATMs. Removing this tag leaves me without standalone ATMs, so I would have to search for atm=yes OR amenity=atm Thus,

[OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Recently in mapping I encountered amenity=atm with atm=yes I manually removed atm=yes, but it turns that there is more of such objects. I propose to run an automatic edit that will remove atm=yes from all such objects. In addition I propose to remove also some other blatant and unnecessary dupli