Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-19 Thread Andy Townsend
On 19/08/2020 22:44, Clifford Snow wrote: ...  Instead of suggesting their users edit OSM, they instead instruct them to email d...@openstreetmap.org , Indeed, and by the time they get to us they are usually "rabbits of negative euphoria"* because of the less t

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-19 Thread Mike Thompson
I have already heard back from the CEO of AllTrails. See his response below. They are going to fix the issue. I am impressed! = Thanks for the note, Mike. I know that this is going to sound lame but I swear it's the truth, and that's that you found a bug on our websit

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Aug 2020, at 00:18, Mike Thompson wrote: > > Thanks for the link where they mention OSM. I did find their CEO on > Linkedin, and just sent him this message: thank you! You may also consider adding them here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attr

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-19 Thread Mike Thompson
Steve, Thanks for the confirmation that the attribution is missing. I will let you, and the rest of the list, know if and when I hear from them. Mike On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 3:51 PM stevea wrote: > Thanks very much you two: I've often meant to do something about > alltrails' seeming / actual

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-19 Thread Mike Thompson
Clifford, Thanks for the link where they mention OSM. I did find their CEO on Linkedin, and just sent him this message: == Hi Ron, I noticed that AllTrails uses OSM data for its trails on the default "AllTrails Map Layer", while you mention this fact on your site[0],

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-19 Thread stevea
Thanks very much you two: I've often meant to do something about alltrails' seeming / actual lack of attribution to OSM (if it exists, I haven't found it either) and something always seems to creep up and prevent me from taking action. These are most assuredly "our" (OSM's / mine, others in OS

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-19 Thread Clifford Snow
Hey Mike, They definitely mention OSM, even call us a partner [1] but like you found their basemap is definitely OSM. Instead of suggesting their users edit OSM, they instead instruct them to email d...@openstreetmap.org, All Trails is located in SF but I couldn't find any listing of a leadership

[OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-19 Thread Mike Thompson
Has anyone tried contacting the AllTrails[0] people about their use of OSM without attribution? I am not talking about the "OSM Map Layer" that they offer, but rather the default "AllTrails Map Layer." At the very least it appears that the trails on that layer come from OSM. I know that because