Re: [OSM-talk] Maps.me comments and OSM notes [Was: Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?]

2020-11-12 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
Now I understand the occurrence of Maps.me POI simultaneously with a redundant note. This is even worse than I imagined. I searched the Maps.me issues tracker for "is:issue comment note" and found nothing reporting that behaviour. On 11/12/20 6:15 PM, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: Huh. Yes,

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
Huh. Yes, that's exactly what it did. Certainly not the behavior I'd expect. On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 11:58 AM Michał Brzozowski wrote: > Hi Brian, the comment was probably made into an OSM Note. Check Notes on > that OSM user page. > > Greetings > Michał > > czw., 12 lis 2020, 17:56 użytkownik Br

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Hi Brian, the comment was probably made into an OSM Note. Check Notes on that OSM user page. Greetings Michał czw., 12 lis 2020, 17:56 użytkownik Brian M. Sperlongano < zelonew...@gmail.com> napisał: > I downloaded and made a test edit (adding an address to a local POI) with > maps.me just now t

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
I downloaded and made a test edit (adding an address to a local POI) with maps.me just now to understand how it works. It does at least make you log in to OSM. I entered in a comment on the change, however, I note that maps.me overwrote my user-entered comment with a generic comment in the change

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Mikel Maron
Hi, I’m not actually a active moderator on this list, but I was asked to step in by several people, and I think it’s appropriate. I think this discussion can stay substantive without veering off topic into geopolitics (we have the whole rest of the internet for that), and using profanity and tau

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hello, On 12.11.2020 10:55, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Is it just me or are Maps.me Openstreetmap contributors unaware of Openstreetmap messages ? Does anyone here have seen Maps.me Openstreetmap contributors answer to Openstreetmap messages ? I share your experience. Typical maps.me edits are

[OSM-talk] Pista ng Mapa 2020: open mapping conference in the Philippines starts tomorrow

2020-11-12 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hello all! To celebrate OSM+Geography Awareness Week, the OSM and OSGeo/FOSS4G community in the Philippines is holding the 2nd annual Pista ng Mapa (Festival of Maps) conference online for the next three Fridays, on November 13th, 20th, and 27th: https://pistangmapa.github.io/2020/ There are plen

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Tomas Straupis
>> I see you do not manage to differentiate historical episodes and >> CURRENT situation. > Is May 2020 not recent enough? May 2020 is irrelevant: had no involvement of the US military, no war with neighbours. >> If you are not familiar with how things work in Moscow or relations >> of owne

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Clay Smalley
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 9:51 AM Tomas Straupis wrote: > 2020-11-12, kt, 16:41 Clay Smalley rašė: > > Anyway, this is clearly off topic and has veered into your personal > > bugaboos about governments you don't like. > > I see you do not manage to differentiate historical episodes and > CURRENT si

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Tomas Straupis
2020-11-12, kt, 16:41 Clay Smalley rašė: > Anyway, this is clearly off topic and has veered into your personal > bugaboos about governments you don't like. I see you do not manage to differentiate historical episodes and CURRENT situation. > Maps.me doesn't seem to have any involvement in Russi

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Clay Smalley
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 9:25 AM Tomas Straupis wrote: > > Besides, Mapbox is known to work with United States government > > agencies as well as military weapons manufacturers (so-called > > "defense contractors"). Does this bother you at all? > > I have no information about the United States bei

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Tomas Straupis
2020-11-12, kt, 15:54 Clay Smalley rašė: >> Maps.me (or crap.me as it is known in some places) is a known bad actor: >> * It disguises as made in Holland, when it is actually made in Moscow >> by a company having close ties with the Kremlin. > I don't think this is accurate or even relevant. Goo

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Clay Smalley
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020, 5:36 AM Tomas Straupis wrote: > Maps.me (or crap.me as it is known in some places) is a known bad actor: > * It disguises as made in Holland, when it is actually made in Moscow > by a company having close ties with the Kremlin. > I don't think this is accurate or even relev

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/11/2020 13:20, Michał Brzozowski wrote: - the e-mail notifications about changeset comments do not have either a definitive "call to action" nor any explanation what to do (or a link to Wiki page with such) They don't, unless the person writing the changeset comment puts that informat

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Michał Brzozowski
Hi, good question. Keep in mind that: - OSM notifications go to Notifications in Gmail which does not normally make a system notification sound on Android, you have to look there. Although I may be wrong here, some of emails in this folder (that Gmail deems important) do notify the user loudly. -

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via talk
Nov 12, 2020, 10:55 by j...@liotier.org: > Is it just me or are Maps.me Openstreetmap contributors unaware of > Openstreetmap messages ? Does anyone here have seen Maps.me Openstreetmap > contributors answer to Openstreetmap messages ? > Yes, but answer rate is ridiculously low, less than 1 in

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Andy Townsend
On 12/11/2020 09:55, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Is it just me or are Maps.me Openstreetmap contributors unaware of Openstreetmap messages ? Does anyone here have seen Maps.me Openstreetmap contributors answer to Openstreetmap messages ? They'll get an email just like every other email user.  Wha

Re: [OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Tomas Straupis
Maps.me (or crap.me as it is known in some places) is a known bad actor: * It disguises as made in Holland, when it is actually made in Moscow by a company having close ties with the Kremlin. * It does not clearly tell their uses they are using OpenStreetMap data (therefore their users have a WTH m

[OSM-talk] Your experience in reaching out to Maps.me users ?

2020-11-12 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
A contributor blankets Bamako with office=government nodes named in all caps - a sad situation, especially considering how much effort he puts into wrongly tagging valid POI (details, in French: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ml/2020-November/000254.html). Changeset comment and