Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-25 Thread Fernando Trebien
etmap.org/wiki/User:NE2/classification_FAQ#Why_can.27t_we_use_functional_classification.3F [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunk_road [4] https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/freight/infrastructure/nfn/index.htm -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 "Nullius in verba." ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-24 Thread Fernando Trebien
s twice: - in Isolda della Scala: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/45.2730/11.0218 - in Mirandola: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/44.8679/11.0485 As in the other example, no such changes in Google Maps, Here.com or Waze. -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 "Nullius in verba." ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-24 Thread Fernando Trebien
uot;harmonising" European roads will >>>> likely get you banned. I don't want to sound like I'm threatening you, but >>>> I've probably spent all the time I'm willing to spend on arguing with some >>>> random person who wants to break our local r

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-24 Thread Fernando Trebien
reak our local road classification system >>> "because it will look nicer". >>> >>> On 24 February 2018 at 07:59, djakk djakk wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, but this rendering does not change when a road crosses a border ^^ >>>>

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
As an exercise (and I'm curious about your thoughts on this), I found the main routes between place=city within Czechia (didn't have time to include cities in adjacent countries, bear that in mind). Here's the result [1] using the old colour scheme (motorway=blue, trunk=green, primary=red; with a

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
for official >> > classification where needed. >> > >> > I've created this page: >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_classes >> > Feel free to add your region! >> > >> > PS: +1 to Michael's point about not changing classifi

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
point about not changing classifications in countries > with an official system. > > On 23 February 2018 at 23:06, Michael Andersen wrote: >> >> On fredag den 23. februar 2018 15.31.37 CET Fernando Trebien wrote: >> >> > Assuming the map is correctly classified in

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
I don't intend to. But I still wonder why they are desirable. On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Michael Andersen wrote: > On fredag den 23. februar 2018 15.31.37 CET Fernando Trebien wrote: > >> Assuming the map is correctly classified in Europe, I'm seeing many >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
ce using another criterion instead of population. > Trunk, primary, > or secondary? > > -- > Mark > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Fernando Trebie

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
aze actually follows local administration. >> >> >> Long story short: I am strongly against deploying this system in countries >> with a functioning official classification system. >> >> On 23 February 2018 at 18:06, Fernando Trebien >> wrote: >>>

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Fernando Trebien wrote: > Assuming the map is correctly classified in Europe, I'm seeing many > fragments of motorways and trunks all over the map. Is this an > artifact of local definitions? Or is it intentional and desirable? I should note that I

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
OK for roads? > > Even Waze actually follows local administration. > > > Long story short: I am strongly against deploying this system in countries > with a functioning official classification system. > > On 23 February 2018 at 18:06, Fernando Trebien > wrote: >> >

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-23 Thread Fernando Trebien
don't touch the countries where there is no doubt about what class >> any given road is. >> Happy mapping! >> >> On 22 February 2018 at 16:20, djakk djakk wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I totally agree with you, the definition you pro

Re: [OSM-talk] Highway=trunk : harmonization between countries ?

2018-02-15 Thread Fernando Trebien
ki/%E9%81%93%E8%B7%AF%E7%B1%BB%E5%9E%8B [16] https://wiki.waze.com/wiki/%E3%80%8C%E9%81%93%E8%B7%AF%E7%A8%AE%E5%88%A5%E3%80%8D -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 99962-5409 "Nullius in verba." ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Unsealed footways/cycleways/paths and rendering

2015-06-29 Thread Fernando Trebien
/2013-December/016007.html -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 "Nullius in verba." ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Mappers and apps should focus on relations at the very start

2015-06-28 Thread Fernando Trebien
catch up with all of > the people who want to be consulted but don't read the mailing list. > > In short, if you believe this is easy, do it. Otherwise, don't underestimate > other people's tasks. > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Fernando Trebien > wrote: &g

Re: [OSM-talk] Mappers and apps should focus on relations at the very start

2015-06-28 Thread Fernando Trebien
cussed. The only reason I don't set out and try writing my own editor (which is a pretty big undertaking) is that my country's map still needs lots of data, and my country's community still needs lots of support. Potlatch, iD and JOSM have solved that, mostly. All I ask for is a m

Re: [OSM-talk] Mappers and apps should focus on relations at the very start

2015-06-27 Thread Fernando Trebien
or cyclic references woud be necessary to represent any information. (Not suggesting the the server should implement that check.) On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > On 6/27/2015 1:14 PM, Fernando Trebien wrote: >> >> Actually no, the server checks for circu

Re: [OSM-talk] Mappers and apps should focus on relations at the very start

2015-06-27 Thread Fernando Trebien
t routes have no other better solution, and while boundaries could be expressed as simple areas (closed ways), that would cause two problems: - lots of space lost in the server by replicating point references - editing usability while handling areas that share edges (not uncommon) [1] http://tagin

[OSM-talk] Mappers and apps should focus on relations at the very start

2015-06-27 Thread Fernando Trebien
Relations cannot be abolished (there is no other way to represent bus/car/hiking/boat routes, or hollow polygons). Ways, in theory, can. -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 "Nullius in verba." ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Flash message when loading the wiki

2014-04-26 Thread Fernando Trebien
Sorry for the spam, apparently this problem is only affecting me. On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Fernando Trebien wrote: > Am I the only person getting a weird Adobe Flash Player message while > trying to access any page of the wiki? Tried two different computers > and one mobile ph

[OSM-talk] Flash message when loading the wiki

2014-04-26 Thread Fernando Trebien
Am I the only person getting a weird Adobe Flash Player message while trying to access any page of the wiki? Tried two different computers and one mobile phone, same result. The download link redirects to a ZIP file in some suspicious IP address. Seems hacked. -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962

Re: [OSM-talk] City templates - Links OFF

2014-03-28 Thread Fernando Trebien
at=-15.7896&zoom=9&layers=B00T > > And this, does not aggregate any information, why it should be there? > http://tah.openstreetmap.org/MapOf/?lat=-15.7896&long=-47.8221&z=9&w=1280&h=1024&format=jpeg > http://www.webshots.com/ > > _______

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-17 Thread Fernando Trebien
reetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 "The sp

Re: [OSM-talk] Maximum recommended length of ways tagged with layer

2014-03-15 Thread Fernando Trebien
ever more detailed rules. It's not a German project ;) > > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > > _______ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

2014-03-13 Thread Fernando Trebien
Under which license would you share it? And why? OSM offers you so many opportunities, I wonder what could be missing. On Mar 13, 2014 11:28 AM, "Alex Barth" wrote: > Hello everyone - > > I've been sitting on writing about the detrimental effects of > OpenStreetMap's share-alike license (ODbL) f

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-21 Thread Fernando Trebien
on (by a user) is a perfect teaching > opportunity. > The moment someone deletes part of a boundary relation, > is the perfect teaching moment about boundary relations. > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-21 Thread Fernando Trebien
nd should not be necessary). I've also been recommending people to use multipolygons only when extremely necessary. I shouldn't be recommending neither of the two, but I see no other way to prevent what I've pointed out. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 6:10 AM, Pieren wrote: > On Thu, Feb 2

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-20 Thread Fernando Trebien
enstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=24381 I'm sure that this little thing would solve most of the major problems with relations in iD: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/1461 On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:49 PM, malenki wrote: > On 14.02.2014 16:54, Fernando Trebien wrote: > >> My main

[OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-14 Thread Fernando Trebien
Potlatch will not be the default editor for much longer (iD will be) so purely beginner-focused feature requests are largely out of scope now. -- Ticket URL: <https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/4902#comment:1> OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/> OpenStreetMap is a free