Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

2008-04-18 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
suggest is, well, essentially impossible. So maybe we should use both. The rest of the GIS world works fine on left/right start/end scheme, I don't know why we need to do anything else. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ _

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Polygons in OSM don't necessarily comply to simple feature specification

2008-04-17 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ea of what to look for. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql - invalid input syntax for in teger: "Breƫrivier"

2008-04-16 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
er" > > Any one knows something about this? Do you have the latest version of osm2pgsql? I beleive this was fixed a few days ago... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ _

Re: [OSM-talk] uploading difference between dial-up and broadband using JOSM

2008-04-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
e? Since the API works on individual changes, it's latency that matters more than anything. For bulk uploads it's recommended to run them from dev or something machine very close to the server... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMA

Re: [OSM-talk] Naga City in OSM Re: GML to OSM

2008-04-11 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
had an idea of where yo uwhere even when the coastlines themselves were screwed. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetma

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMXapi error 501

2008-03-30 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
a certain directory and it just happens to be the one where osmxapi is processing the diffs. There's lots of processes stuck in D state right now, I think crschmidt needs to diagnose the NFS thing before things start working again... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Mottram and Tintwistle proposed bypass

2008-03-29 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
lly, if you can see the effects already, it's mappable. This may be prior to the start of construction. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] import of dataset for new zealand

2008-03-29 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ginal BSD advertising clause. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_license#UC_Berkeley_advertising_clause It sucked then and it sucks now. We don't want it. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmarender and coastlines

2008-03-27 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
> The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. > Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy > > > ___ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > ht

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline checker / fixer

2008-03-26 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
so it should be possible to extract the relevent data from the error file. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] import of dataset for new zealand

2008-03-20 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
sheet the has no attribution because I think it's ugly, can I now be sued because I left it out? I thought the whole point of this project was to get away from crap like that... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ _

Re: [OSM-talk] import of dataset for new zealand

2008-03-20 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
at all that one is going to be better than the other and merging them is going to be a real problem. It's fortunate that neither ask for attribution or we'd have a serious problem on our hands. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/

Re: [OSM-talk] Contours server

2008-03-18 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
helps control swap IO. I looked at the code the other day and it seemed rather inefficient. Fixing it will be a PITA though... Would be very nice though, I'm think of looking into it when I have time... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[E

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline checker back online

2008-03-16 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
island is indeed wrong, but relative to the real world it is currently correct. i.e. fix the south american coastline and it will solve itself. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___

[OSM-talk] Coastline checker back online

2008-03-16 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
After sorting all the problems mentioned and more, the coastline checker is finally back in the air. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.or

Re: [OSM-talk] Coastline checker

2008-03-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
currently regenerating so some time this afternoon it should finally catch up... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] fixing multipolygons

2008-03-09 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ed at the same time. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] area_with_holes as alternative to multipolygon relation

2008-03-04 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ultipolygon relations and assign inner/outer tags as appropriate... Then we can fix the renderers... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] area_with_holes as alternative to multipolygon relation

2008-03-04 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
onverting logical->physical is easy and from physical->logical basically impossible. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] area_with_holes as alternative to multipolygon relation

2008-03-04 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
n a boat, have I left the forest? I'd say no (you are simultaneously in the forest and on the lake), but I can imagine people disagreeing with that. My point is that the question "What is the area of feature X" is too weakly defined to be basing our structure on the answer. Hav

Re: [OSM-talk] area_with_holes as alternative to multipolygon relation

2008-03-03 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
just had a layer=1 to the lake and forget about the multipolygon. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] rendering with mapnik, what do I need?

2008-03-01 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
hecker produces output in shapefile format which you can use in mapnik directly, however dumping it into a database improves the performance. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ t

Re: [OSM-talk] Raw GPS layer

2008-02-22 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
s again, and that would > probably mean re-entering descriptions for 200+ files. It was enough of > an ordeal the first time around. Hmm, that sounds counterproductive. Perhaps it would be worthwhile to add a "quick" option to the script to just put in blank descriptions... Have

Re: [OSM-talk] download.geofabrik.de planet extracts out of sync

2008-02-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
http://planet.openstreetmap.org/daily/ > Can this be fixed please? It's by far the easiest method to download big > areas at once. There's osmxapi if you really need it? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ __

Re: [OSM-talk] Slippy map - clickable POI

2008-02-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ipt, 'cause dev can't do normal CGI scripts http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~kleptog/pois/pois.pl http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~kleptog/pois/mk_pois.pl Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
d, we have been given no details of the problem (which renderer for example), where? If people don't report these problems they'll never get fixed. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Slippy map - clickable POI

2008-02-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
d something on the server to get the POI data on the fly as in: http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~kleptog/pois/pois.html Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreet

Re: [OSM-talk] displayed width of roads

2008-02-18 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
e motorway_link which (IIRC) are rendered thinner than the main motorway... But it's hard to get right, cartography is a very difficult topic. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ ta

Re: [OSM-talk] Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?

2008-02-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
wise you will not. :If a message does not match any topic, the delivery rule depends on the setting of the option below. If you do not select any :topics of interest, you will get all the messages sent to the mailing list. Which implies that ticking "default" is sufficient.... Have a n

Re: [OSM-talk] Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?

2008-02-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
tion for all the people who don't want to receive emails with [tagging] in the subject... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists

Re: [OSM-talk] Move tagging RfCs/voting to extra list?

2008-02-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
can choose to not receive email with subjects containing [foo]. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-11 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
openstreetmap.org/index.php/Change_File_Formats Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] User umehlig and some really nasty edits

2008-02-11 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
e/modify/delete objects in the database, why are you reinventing the wheel? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
silly. The only rules that matter is what actually works right now... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Large Rivers in general, mapnik rendering in Particular

2008-02-08 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
rmationfreeway.org/?lat=51.49&lon=0.41&zoom=11&layers=F0B0F The rules are fairly simple: all areas must be closed, except for coastlines. People may not like the results, but it's what works right now. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: [OSM-talk] Virtual highway?

2008-02-06 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ling list > talk@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk > -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] India has been uploaded

2008-02-04 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
This afternoon the AND data from India was finally uploaded, took a bit over two hours. It should start showing up in the renderers shortly... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk m

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-nl] Recent Edits

2008-02-03 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
g comments to the relevent parts of SVN. We don't for pretty much the same reasons we don't want notes in the DB as nodes... A seperate system like Trac is far more appropriate. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ _

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridges / viaducts for railways

2008-02-03 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 2, 2008 11:12 PM, Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > Around here the water levels can vary +/-0.5m (just before the bridge > > there's a gauge so you can tell at any particular moment if you'll > > fit). S

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridges / viaducts for railways

2008-02-02 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
so the minimum maximum measurement. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Swedish water is pretty thin atm

2008-02-01 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Feb 1, 2008 7:16 PM, Adam Schreiber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 1, 2008 4:26 AM, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, it's wierd, I can't see it either. I have a thought but I can't > > easily test it. The growth in coastl

Re: [OSM-talk] Swedish water is pretty thin atm

2008-02-01 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
e test was supposed to check for degrees but I forgot the points were already converted at this point. Tomorrow they should be fixed. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Swedish water is pretty thin atm

2008-02-01 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
tlines.html?zoom=11&lat=59.95306&lon=30.23849&layers=B00T I want to clean it up. Except it's got a note "PLEASE don't delete me". If you're going to put such notes, state the reason. Otherwise I'll just wait a week and delete them anyway. H

Re: [OSM-talk] Swedish water is pretty thin atm

2008-01-31 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
matter of getting them into the main mapnik instance. If the coastline check shows no problems, then it should work out fine, soon (for the rest of the world also...). Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ __

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering in a non-default language

2008-01-31 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
NL tileserver runs two extra languages. You just need to convince someone with a mapnik install to add your layer. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap

Re: [OSM-talk] Feedback System

2008-01-28 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ge for it. I think we're 90% of the way already, it just needs to be finished. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-nl] Recent Edits

2008-01-28 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ing it, it just hasn't been written yet. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping canals

2008-01-24 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ngs it back to something feasable. I'm also worried about people using gauges adding 5ft 5in somewhere, we should at least require decimals. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=stop

2008-01-24 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
arking which road has right-of-way and then users/renderers can infer the "stop signs" or whatever from there... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openst

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM and GPX

2008-01-24 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
apefiles. and2osm converts the specific AND format to OSM and it could probably be altered to suit other shapefiles, but it's not generic. Note that there is a generic shapefile to postgresql converter, so if you just interested in rendering that might be easier... Have a nice day, -- Martijn

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-23 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
at I have no idea. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Slippymap Hosting Recommendations

2008-01-22 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ipts perhaps you can look into some kind of on-the-fly rendering. The NL tileserver has a few layers, but it only takes about 1GB. Remember, most of your diskspace goes into the highest zoom level, which is precisely the level that renders the fastest... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterho

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping canals

2008-01-22 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
is that there's so many to choose from). We could mandate that mph is the only exception, but if we're going to allow exceptions we should list them, because as you can see from the foot example, it's not just multiplying by a factor, you need a parser for some things.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM gets mentioned in KDE4 keynote speech at Google Headquarters

2008-01-22 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
rver to render in platecarre that might at least fix the stretching, maybe...? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Schengen boundaries

2008-01-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
round. Countries have borders and Schengen is a relation associating all the countries... That way we won't accedently forget some of the borders in south america, for example... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ _

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing structure

2008-01-18 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
process to boundaries, a boundary checker. As a side-effect it will produce a shapefile of all the boundaries, which can be efficiently queried for is_in-ness... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ __

Re: [OSM-talk] Server down?

2008-01-18 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ome db checks. It should get better shortly. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Deleted Place names in the Philippines

2008-01-16 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
reetmap ? I know I'll go to their website and just > delete whatever I feel like using potlatch. This is hardly news... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@o

Re: [OSM-talk] Tracing coastline by hand unnecessarily

2008-01-16 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Jan 15, 2008 4:22 PM, David Groom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've noticed that Australia has been completed in the last day or so. Well, +/- one state anyway... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http

Re: [OSM-talk] Tracing coastline by hand unnecessarily

2008-01-16 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ld have though preserving area was more important. I tends to (in my experience) convert small squares to triangles half the size. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@ope

Re: [OSM-talk] Tracing coastline by hand unnecessarily

2008-01-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
coastline related points. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Tracing coastline by hand unnecessarily

2008-01-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
7;ll give you a file you can load into JOSM and upload it.... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Tracing coastline by hand unnecessarily

2008-01-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ow up to date it is I have no idea... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Deleted Place names in the Philippines

2008-01-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
that's harder... Hope this helps, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Tracing coastline by hand unnecessarily

2008-01-15 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
nyone thinking of doing this, please don't. We have reasonably high quality coastline data, please use it. Use landsat to fix any gaps. But segments like that just ask to be deleted and redone. This kind of bad data is worse than none at all... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EM

Re: [OSM-talk] Missing structure

2008-01-13 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
hat relations are for... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC: Import of OpenGeoDB to OSM

2008-01-13 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ly how much is duplicated... Done right you can even remove the duplication *before* it enters the DB, which a Good Thing (tm). Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@op

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging hierarchies (was: RFC - lake)

2008-01-12 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
the impoartant properties needed for 99% of users. If somebody cares about details they can add them but I object to me being forced to care. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] maritime borders (was: administrative boundaries and is_in)

2008-01-12 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
approach it from the other way. Take a 12nm circle and push it against the coastline so it touches at a point. Then "roll" it along with the centre tracing a line, forming either an arc where it rotates around a point, or a straight line as it slides along an edge. Have a nice day, --

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC - lake

2008-01-12 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
oo combinations without worrying that people won't know what it means. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Osmosis UTF-8 problem (again)

2008-01-11 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
Looks like there's an issue with UTF-8 characters in the username. Line 42117 of daily-20080109-20080110.osc is an example (node 32268361). Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ t

Re: [OSM-talk] Why place matters, slides from Vanessa Lawrence talk

2008-01-11 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
put no older than two days. Hypercube was (is?) running a global mapnik renderer updated daily. However, I'm not sure how either of these servers would handle the kind of load we would get if we redirected the main site to them... Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhou

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
does extend beyond the coastline itself. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Coasline error checker

2008-01-08 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Jan 7, 2008 11:15 PM, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But > something else has changed so don't be surprised if the map looks > totally whacked tomorrow :) Right, using integers to calculate the size of large polygons is bad (what a typo). In any case,

Re: [OSM-talk] Coasline error checker

2008-01-07 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
&zoom=16 Right, a bug in the "polygon contains point" test. Tossed my own version and copied one from wikipedia and it works better now. But something else has changed so don't be surprised if the map looks totally whacked tomorrow :) Getting closer all the time :) Have a nic

Re: [OSM-talk] Coasline error checker

2008-01-07 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Jan 6, 2008 3:11 PM, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There were quite a lot of changes, this one seems to have been for the > worse. I'll see if I can find the problem... Right, it turns out the system thought the islands contained themselves. As usual on

Re: [OSM-talk] Coasline error checker

2008-01-06 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
the error checking script last night? There were quite a lot of changes, this one seems to have been for the worse. I'll see if I can find the problem... Certainly the artifacts in the tile forming process are gone, so at least that part worked. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout &

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM upload failure

2008-01-04 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
rs what got uploaded and won't upload them again. Just hit upload again and it should be fine. (or at least, it used too...) Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing l

Re: [OSM-talk] [Mapnik-devel] curves

2008-01-03 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ugh the parts that represent piers need to be exempted somehow. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] LZMA planets

2008-01-01 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
7z? Also, every linux system has bz2, but barely any have 7z, and I doubt people are going to install a new compression program for just saving a few bytes and losing a lot of functionality. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ _

Re: [OSM-talk] Part-municipalities and more place issues

2007-12-30 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
evel is a good idea, and make it orthoginal to the actual towns/cities inside them Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Part-municipalities and more place issues

2007-12-30 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
d a nice way to render the > Houthalen-Helchteren case, so it's not like: >Houthalen > Houthalen-Helchteren >Helchteren > on the map. Rendering is another problem entirely and what you want isn't really possible with any current render

Re: [OSM-talk] New Zealand coastline and mapnik

2007-12-27 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
the error checker? Anyway, the shapefiles are here in case anyone wants to try it out: http://hypercube.telascience.org/~kleptog/ Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk ma

Re: [OSM-talk] New Zealand coastline and mapnik

2007-12-25 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
blems". Part of this uploading involves fixing these "problems". The US is the area we're really interested in right now, and Asia, all the others are nearly done. http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [OSM-talk] New Zealand coastline and mapnik

2007-12-24 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
s of the world. What we'd need to do is show the current output in places where the OSM DB is imcomplete and the new shapefile where the database is fine. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ __

Re: [OSM-talk] New Zealand coastline and mapnik

2007-12-24 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
k instance. So the question becomes, how to get the shapefiles to the main mapnik instance so they can be used. Who needs to be asked to do that? Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to draw areas with holes?

2007-12-21 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Dec 21, 2007 2:30 PM, Alex Mauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > "polygon with holes" and "splitting outside into peices because it's > > too long" are incompatable, you either do one or the other. > > I don

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to draw areas with holes?

2007-12-21 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
ither do one or the other. A riverbank has to be a single closed polygon, the only area feature exempt from this rule is "natural=coastline". TBH, I'd forget the multipolygon stuff and draw the islands as natural=land or some such.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] "Unsurfaced road" and "Byway"?

2007-12-19 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
er tags. There is a mention of the ncn_ref but it says you only need them if your using potlatch (since it doesn't support relations, is that true?). It also specifically mentions the problem that the given tags arn't sufficient and suggests the name= tag to distiguish all the differ

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