Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
> Let me try copyright-only examples.
> I can take up the full text of all of the works of William
> Shakespeare, compile it into a book with annotations, and release the
> book under CC-BY-SA. Now since the original text by Shakespeare is
> already in the public domain
On 18 June 2011 02:40, Rob Myers wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:07 AM, John Smith
> wrote:
>> Then you have a whole other argument over what constitutes a produced
>> work and so on.
>
> It's a novel concept, to be sure. but if you want to understand it
> better you can always ask the licenc
On 18 June 2011 02:26, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
> I don't think you're going to get clear answers about these specific
> cases. It will take a court decision to provide precedent rulings on
> such things.
Well the copyright side of things seems pretty simple, especially if
people are using CC0/
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:07 AM, John Smith
wrote:
> Then you have a whole other argument over what constitutes a produced
> work and so on.
It's a novel concept, to be sure. but if you want to understand it
better you can always ask the licence's authors on odc-discuss.
- Rob.
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On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:07 AM, John Smith wrote:
> On 18 June 2011 01:46, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>> Let me try copyright-only examples.
>>
>> I can take up the full text of all of the works of William
>> Shakespeare, compile it into a book with annotations, and release the
>> book under CC
On 18 June 2011 01:46, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
> Let me try copyright-only examples.
>
> I can take up the full text of all of the works of William
> Shakespeare, compile it into a book with annotations, and release the
> book under CC-BY-SA. Now since the original text by Shakespeare is
> alre
On 17/06/11 15:39, andrzej zaborowski wrote:
>
> 1. IIRC the newer versions of CC-By-SA include statements to ensure
> that the content is not protected by database rights, patents or DRM,
> which would prevent their uses. Does that mean that only the older
> licenses can be used for produced wor
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:44 PM, John Smith wrote:
> On 18 June 2011 00:40, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> I am not trying to apply patents to OSM. I am trying to use the example of
>> patents to prove to you that your reasoning "either something is CC-BY-SA or
>> it isn't" is, in this simplicity, inva
On 18 June 2011 00:50, Simon Poole wrote:
>
>
> Am 17.06.2011 16:39, schrieb andrzej zaborowski:
>
> ...
>>
>> 2. What happens if a person in country A with database rights
>> publishes a tileset and licenses it under CC-By-SA to a person in
>> country B without database rights? The second person
Am 17.06.2011 16:39, schrieb andrzej zaborowski:
...
2. What happens if a person in country A with database rights
publishes a tileset and licenses it under CC-By-SA to a person in
country B without database rights? The second person is then as far
as I can see not bound by database rights or
Hi,
On 06/17/11 16:39, andrzej zaborowski wrote:
1. IIRC the newer versions of CC-By-SA include statements to ensure
that the content is not protected by database rights, patents or DRM,
which would prevent their uses.
News to me. Do you have a pointer?
It is true that CC-BY-SA, for as long a
2011/6/17 andrzej zaborowski :
>
> 2. What happens if a person in country A with database rights
> publishes a tileset and licenses it under CC-By-SA to a person in
> country B without database rights? The second person is then as far
> as I can see not bound by database rights or a contract. Is
On 18 June 2011 00:40, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> I am not trying to apply patents to OSM. I am trying to use the example of
> patents to prove to you that your reasoning "either something is CC-BY-SA or
> it isn't" is, in this simplicity, invalid; that there may well exist
> limitations external to t
Hi,
On 06/17/11 16:35, John Smith wrote:
I am trying to make a general point about the scope of CC licenses, to which
the "patents" example is relevant.
Do you or do you not agree, that if a picture describing a patent is made
available under CC-BY-SA (and NOT CC-BY-ND), one's ability to implem
Hi,
(this is offtopic, I know)
On 17 June 2011 16:06, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> On 06/17/11 11:18, John Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> Only if the amount of data traced is not substantial.
>>
>> CC-by-SA makes no such distinction, it's either cc-by-sa or it's not
>> cc-by-sa, so which license can tiles be put
On 18 June 2011 00:32, Rob Myers wrote:
> On 06/17/11 16:06, John Smith wrote:
>> So once again I'm met with silence and can only assume that produced
>> works licensed under cc-by or cc-by-sa can be derived from,
>
> Do read the discussions I had with odc-discuss when someone asked about
> this b
On 18 June 2011 00:30, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 06/17/11 16:20, John Smith wrote:
>>
>> Patents don't apply here
>
> I am trying to make a general point about the scope of CC licenses, to which
> the "patents" example is relevant.
>
> Do you or do you not agree, that if a picture describi
On 06/17/11 16:06, John Smith wrote:
> So once again I'm met with silence and can only assume that produced
> works licensed under cc-by or cc-by-sa can be derived from,
Do read the discussions I had with odc-discuss when someone asked about
this before:
http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/odc-discus
Hi,
On 06/17/11 16:20, John Smith wrote:
Patents don't apply here
I am trying to make a general point about the scope of CC licenses, to
which the "patents" example is relevant.
Do you or do you not agree, that if a picture describing a patent is
made available under CC-BY-SA (and NOT CC-B
On 17 June 2011 18:38, Rob Myers wrote:
> Data from an ODbL database may however be used to create a BY-SA
> Produced Work.
So this means produced works can be traced into a cc-by-sa data set then?
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On 17/06/11 09:34, Steve Bennett wrote:
>
> Also, a question I should probably know the answer to: is ODbL
> considered compatible with CC-BY-SA? Can you relicense something that
> is CC-BY-SA as ODbL? (I guess the answer must be yes, but could
> someone confirm?)
The answer is no, unless the pe
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