Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

2009/3/3 Roman Neumüller > On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:41:38 +0200, > wrote: > > > Something that's come up a few times in chatting to people is the > > front page design of the website and how it's been pretty static for a > > long time. That's pretty cool as nobody has felt the need to hack it > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

2009/3/6 Frederik Ramm > Hi, > > Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > > Yuk! No! Don't do this! Why produce half-transparent tiles when you > > could just carry on producing tiles of the neighbouring countries (or > > even the whole world) in your national style. > > As I said, that's the easy bit. We a

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

2009/3/6 Robert (Jamie) Munro > I hate it when I go on holiday and I can't understand the colours of the > maps. A choice of UK Style, German Style, USA Style rendering for the > whole world would be nice, particularly if it defaulted to whichever > country you were in by IP address geolocation.

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

I just wanted to comment on this point regarding the width of screens. I was using google maps recently where you can remove the side panel and have the entire width available to the map. It looks really daft and I would rather try and maintain a square aspect to the map so that you can see equal

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Hi, Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > Yuk! No! Don't do this! Why produce half-transparent tiles when you > could just carry on producing tiles of the neighbouring countries (or > even the whole world) in your national style. As I said, that's the easy bit. We already have "the whole world in Britis

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Am Donnerstag 05 März 2009 schrieb Robert (Jamie) Munro: > Yuk! No! Don't do this! Why produce half-transparent tiles when you > could just carry on producing tiles of the neighbouring countries (or > even the whole world) in your national style. > > As a British person who travels to Paraguay, I w

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > Tom Hughes wrote: >> I'm not sure delegating to all sort of different servers is the best >> way to implement such a thing for lots of reasons. We just need the >> master stylesheet to be able to take location into accoun

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Hi, Tom Hughes wrote: > I'm not sure delegating to all sort of different servers is the best way > to implement such a thing for lots of reasons. We just need the master > stylesheet to be able to take location into account when rendering. That's how Google does it of course and it is, issues o

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Frederik Ramm wrote: > (I see that for some countries people have put up slippy maps covering > only that country. I would love to one day interweave these individual > servers by way of a cool getTileUrl OpenLayers function so that you can > zoom across Europe and see each country as rendered

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > Richard Fairhurst wrote: >> Andy Allan wrote: >>> Quite. Can someone please come up with names for the two "main" >>> styles that aren't just the technology that creates them? >> Mapnik -> Standard (or maybe 'Classic') > > I think that the Mapnik layer should be cal

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Le jeudi 05 mars 2009 à 01:47, Robert (Jamie) Munro a écrit : > I.e. having windows automatically tiled the whole time, making maximum > use of screen real estate. When you moved the bottom of one window, for > example, you were dragging the top of the window beneath it. While I > usually overlap m

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Hi, Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > We should dedicate some resources to making a few other Mapnik-generated > layers for US, German and other popular countries styles. We've already > got Cycle Map, Piste Map etc. Let's not go over the top here; these efforts are private (or sometimes partly comp

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Andy Allan wrote: >> Quite. Can someone please come up with names for the two "main" >> styles that aren't just the technology that creates them? > > Mapnik -> Standard (or maybe 'Classic') I think that the Mapnik layer sh

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Hughes wrote: > Richard Fairhurst wrote: >> Tom Hughes wrote: >> >>> Screen size is of course irrelevant to browser window size, >>> unless you're one of those weird web designers that seems to >>> think everybody runs their browser full screen a

[OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

On 3 Mar 2009, at 03:51, SteveC wrote: > > > There are a bunch of open questions like what design elements should > stay, what should go, what colour schemes would be neat. Feel free to > contribute and if it's useful we can build a design brief based on > comments and ideas... then if it's usefu

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > SteveC wrote: >> I asked the CM designers for some quick hacks on what different >> front pages could look like which you can see on the wiki page >> below. > > Very pretty in a sort of let's-polish-the-CSS way, which isn't a bad thing

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Richard Fairhurst wrote: > IMX it's a platform thing. Windows people genuinely do run their web > browser, and most things, full screen. Hence the aberration that is "MDI". > Us Mac people, by contrast, usually have about 57 different non-full screen > windows overlapping - that's why Apple came u

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

> So, like Richard I don't like the idea of just tinkering with the css and > layout. Better to be radical. Ideally a concerted effort for different > people and web developers to come up with the look and feel and then > compare the different versions. One is likely to win out, or perhaps more > t

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On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > Andy Allan wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: >> >>> Osmarender is the name of the rendering software, ti...@home is the name >>> of >>> the distributed rendering system. >> >> I see it as the name of the project -

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO - layer names

Tom Chance wrote: > It's not clear that it's the distributed rendering of the data that makes > one more "community" than the other. That's not quite what I was thinking of - it was more the cartographic style than the mechanics behind it. The Osmarender layer tends to prioritise more POIs, mor

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO - layer names

On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:12:21 -0800 (PST), Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Andy Allan wrote: >> Quite. Can someone please come up with names for the two "main" >> styles that aren't just the technology that creates them? > > Mapnik -> Standard (or maybe 'Classic') > Osmarender -> Community A good sug

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Andy Allan wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > >> Osmarender is the name of the rendering software, ti...@home is the name of >> the distributed rendering system. > > I see it as the name of the project - the t...@h project produces the > map, but the osmarender project

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > Andy Allan wrote: >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Dave Stubbs >> wrote: >>> >>>  I keep wanting to scream every time I see it say >>> "Mapnik".. as if three of the layers there aren't actually rendered >>> using Mapnik anyway :-) >>> I ca

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Andy Allan wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Dave Stubbs wrote: >> I keep wanting to scream every time I see it say >> "Mapnik".. as if three of the layers there aren't actually rendered >> using Mapnik anyway :-) >> I can't imagine what a newbie will think a Mapnik is. > > Quite. Can som

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Andy Allan wrote: > Quite. Can someone please come up with names for the two "main" > styles that aren't just the technology that creates them? Mapnik -> Standard (or maybe 'Classic') Osmarender -> Community cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Front-page-desi

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Richard Fairhurst wrote: >Sent: 03 March 2009 10:05 AM >To: talk@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO > > >SteveC wrote: >> I asked the CM designers for some quick hacks on what different >> front pages could look like which you can

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Dave Stubbs wrote: > I keep wanting to scream every time I see it say > "Mapnik".. as if three of the layers there aren't actually rendered > using Mapnik anyway :-) > I can't imagine what a newbie will think a Mapnik is. Quite. Can someone please come up with nam

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Tom Hughes wrote: > >> Richard Fairhurst wrote: >>> IMX it's a platform thing. Windows people genuinely do run their web >>> browser, and most things, full screen. Hence the aberration that is >>> "MDI". >>> Us Mac people, by contrast, usually have about 57 different no

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Tom Hughes wrote: > Richard Fairhurst wrote: >> IMX it's a platform thing. Windows people genuinely do run their web >> browser, and most things, full screen. Hence the aberration that is "MDI". >> Us Mac people, by contrast, usually have about 57 different non-full screen >> windows overlapping -

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Tom Hughes wrote: > >> Screen size is of course irrelevant to browser window size, >> unless you're one of those weird web designers that seems to >> think everybody runs their browser full screen all the time... > > IMX it's a platform thing. Windows people genuinely

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

SteveC wrote: > I asked the CM designers for some quick hacks on what different > front pages could look like which you can see on the wiki page > below. Very pretty in a sort of let's-polish-the-CSS way, which isn't a bad thing at all. In a "let's ask for the stars" way, though, how about: -

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Tom Hughes wrote: > Screen size is of course irrelevant to browser window size, > unless you're one of those weird web designers that seems to > think everybody runs their browser full screen all the time... IMX it's a platform thing. Windows people genuinely do run their web browser, and most

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Hey guys & gals, get these thoughts onto the wiki! I've added some already: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Front_Page Thanks to Steve & the CloudMade designers for giving this some energy! Regards, Tom On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:37:29 +, Dave Stubbs wrote: > 2009/3/3 Celso González : >> O

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

On 03/03/2009 09:42, D Tucny wrote: > 2009/3/3 Tom Hughes mailto:t...@compton.nu>> > > D Tucny wrote: > > > I must say, I like that one too... but... So many sites and > applications these days seem to be going with all the options at > the top/bottom and a full width

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Hi, Tom Hughes wrote: > If I'm on a 1600x1200 desktop, or a 3760x1600 desktop like the one I use > at the office, then it won't be. Good for you, because if you displayed our slippy map in 3760x1600 then we would have to block your IP for bulk downloading ;-) Bye Frederik ___

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D Tucny wrote: > 2009/3/3 Tom Hughes mailto:t...@compton.nu>> > > Screen size is of course irrelevant to browser window size, unless > you're one of those weird web designers that seems to think > everybody runs their browser full screen all the time... > > I guess that makes me a wei

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2009/3/3 Tom Hughes > D Tucny wrote: > >> >> I must say, I like that one too... but... So many sites and applications >> these days seem to be going with all the options at the top/bottom and a >> full width content section, while at the same time most 4:3 screens are >> being replaced with 16:10

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

2009/3/3 Celso González : > On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 09:16:21AM +0100, "Jonas Krückel (John07)" wrote: >> Ian Dees schrieb: >> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, SteveC > > > wrote: >> > >> > >> >     I asked the CM designers for some quick hacks on what different front >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Hi, Ian Dees wrote: > I really like the Fp4.jpg[1] example on the URL you gave, Steve. I'm a bit concerned about the similarity to maps.cloudmade.com; I would not want people to think that OSM was a CloudMade spin-off ;-) then again there's not much freedom, design-wise, in making a page with a

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:41:38 +0200, wrote: > Something that's come up a few times in chatting to people is the > front page design of the website and how it's been pretty static for a > long time. That's pretty cool as nobody has felt the need to hack it I make a quick poll (1) on which which sc

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 09:16:21AM +0100, "Jonas Krückel (John07)" wrote: > Ian Dees schrieb: > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, SteveC > > wrote: > > > > > > I asked the CM designers for some quick hacks on what different front > > pages could look like which y

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

SteveC wrote: > The other thing that could be better is the search engine optimisation > of the front page so that it shows up higher for some search terms > like "free maps" and stuff. Why do I always want to barf when I hear somebody mention SEO... > Anyway some thoughts are jotted down he

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D Tucny wrote: > > I must say, I like that one too... but... So many sites and applications > these days seem to be going with all the options at the top/bottom and a > full width content section, while at the same time most 4:3 screens are > being replaced with 16:10 screens... Screen size is

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Ian Dees wrote: > To get some conversation going: > > I really like the Fp4.jpg[1] example on the URL you gave, Steve. It's > important to make the map (and thus its data) the largest GUI element on > the page. The buttons along the top draw my eye up there to see what's > available. I also l

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Ian Dees schrieb: > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, SteveC > wrote: > > > I asked the CM designers for some quick hacks on what different front > pages could look like which you can see on the wiki page below. There > are some very quick ideas there but it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

2009/3/3 Ian Dees > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, SteveC wrote: > >> >> I asked the CM designers for some quick hacks on what different front >> pages could look like which you can see on the wiki page below. There >> are some very quick ideas there but it's not a full picture by a long >> way

Re: [OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, SteveC wrote: > > I asked the CM designers for some quick hacks on what different front > pages could look like which you can see on the wiki page below. There > are some very quick ideas there but it's not a full picture by a long > way. > To get some conversati

[OSM-talk] Front page design and SEO

Something that's come up a few times in chatting to people is the front page design of the website and how it's been pretty static for a long time. That's pretty cool as nobody has felt the need to hack it away and it's sprouted some cool additions with time. But there are some things that