Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread Shaun McDonald
> On 5 Jan 2016, at 12:29, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 00:14:25 +0100 > John Doe wrote: > >> I tagged some abandoned building in my native city with >> abandoned:building=yes (as wiki) and the building name but now i can't >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread John Doe
Ok i agree, the rendering is not so important and i can use other tools, but why i can't search abandoned stuff with nominatim? this is not so logic in my opinion. If the data is present why i can't find it with a regular search on openstreetmap.org for example? this is not a rendering problem. Il

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread Simon Poole
Nominatim is not a general purpose OSM search API (overpass however is), it is built around the notion of creating address hierarchies of (correct) OSM data for the purpose of geocoding and reverse geocoding. It has some support for interesting POIs, but abandoned buildings are not really of

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 04/01/2016 23:14, John Doe wrote: I tagged some abandoned building in my native city with abandoned:building=yes (as wiki) and the building name but now i can't search these ones with nominatim (no results) and none of these appears on mapnik. Is prefix abandoned before building=yes

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread John Doe
The problem is not mine; i'm just searching a solution for casual/potential OSM users. Fot example i mapped some really interesting abandoned old house (in italian i mean "villa" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa), currently not yet recognized as historical heritage, that is object of study of

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 06.01.2016 um 12:59 schrieb Shaun McDonald : > > Where a shop has closed and all the fittings removed, usually ready for a new > shop to move in, I use shop=vacant, and where appropriate building=retail. shop=vacant seems a bit of a hack,

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone Am 06.01.2016 um 15:55 schrieb Andy Townsend : >> You would better use a dedicated tag for this, e.g. vacant_shop=yes > > Now you're just making it up as you're going along* :) No uses in OSM, though yes, sorry for not being more explicit, that wasn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/01/2016 13:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: shop=vacant seems a bit of a hack, "vacant" is not a shop type. That's debateable, I'd say it was. "disused:shop=blah" (or "yes") would work too and is used, though not nearly as many as shop=vacant (9k vs 2k for

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Am 05.01.2016 um 00:31 schrieb Nicolás Alvarez : > > but an > abandoned building is still a building, so maybe building=yes > abandoned=yes does fit I see it similarly, an abandoned building that is more or less in a usable state is still a

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-05 Thread John Doe
In my opinion objects with abandoned prefix should be introduced in nominatim for searches and in mapnik to see them (with a different render obviously). OSM can be an important database also for stats about abandoned buildings/houses in our cities. Some organization (also the public

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-05 Thread Marc Gemis
As soon as you record the data it is in the database, it doesn't matter whether it is rendered on the standard map or not. I think that if you need "stats" on abandoned buildings or shops, that you will load the data into your own database or a GIS system such as QGIS, where you can really analyse

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 00:14:25 +0100 John Doe wrote: > I tagged some abandoned building in my native city with > abandoned:building=yes (as wiki) and the building name but now i can't > search these ones with nominatim (no results) and none of these > appears on mapnik. > Is

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-04 Thread Marcos Oliveira
> > Is prefix abandoned before building=yes really correct? > Yep. The issue is that Nominatim nor the default osm-carto acknowledges the tag abandoned:building=yes at the moment, so that's the reason neither appear on your searches. Try adding a building=yes to the feature. Probably it's

[OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-04 Thread John Doe
I tagged some abandoned building in my native city with abandoned:building=yes (as wiki) and the building name but now i can't search these ones with nominatim (no results) and none of these appears on mapnik. Is prefix abandoned before building=yes really correct?

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

2016-01-04 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
2016-01-04 20:14 GMT-03:00 John Doe : > I tagged some abandoned building in my native city with > abandoned:building=yes (as wiki) and the building name but now i can't > search these ones with nominatim (no results) and none of these appears on > mapnik. > Is prefix