Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers

> On 11/11/2013 06:02 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I think it is an interesting proposal to put an alternative mapstyle on > osm.org without the admin boundaries. > > While a map without borders is quite a powerful philosophical > statement, is it really part of Openstreetmap's core role ?

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On 11/11/2013 06:02 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I think it is an interesting proposal to put an alternative mapstyle > on osm.org without the admin boundaries. While a map without borders is quite a powerful philosophical statement, is it really part of Openstreetmap's core r

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2013/11/11 Christian Quest > OSM is a data project, and these data allow to make maps, not one single > map, but maps. > > If the default map does not fit one need, just use the data and the tools > to make your own. That's what we did with these trademarked routes... they > are hidden on OSM-FR

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OSM is a global and worldwide project and cannot deal with all local issues. For example, in France some names/routes are "trade marks" and for this reason should not be visible on maps unless authorized. So what ? Should we remove these routes from the osm.org default rendering ? Create one more

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Hi Does India have a local osm chapter? If yes, this would be a perfect place to host the tiles. Many local chapters host tile servers. Thanks Jason On Monday, November 11, 2013, Arun Ganesh wrote: > > Easy: take everything from OSM but the borders and supply your own >> favourite borders from

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> Easy: take everything from OSM but the borders and supply your own > favourite borders from a separate source with a nice big Indian > government stamp on it. Render to taste. > Having new tile layer on osm.org that does not have any international boundaries (or hiding those that are disputed)

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On 11/10/2013 01:45 PM, Arun Ganesh wrote: > In India the law requires that the external boundaries of the country > include parts of Kashmir that is now under control of foreign > countries. This regularly causes issues when OSM is demoed publicly at > institutes or to government officials. Also t

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Am 10.11.2013 13:45, schrieb Arun Ganesh: >> In my opinion this is an example where OSM data is broken and should be >> fixed. >> >> Andrew >> >> > In India the law requires that the external boundaries of the country > include parts of Kashmir that is now under control of foreign countries. > Thi

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> In my opinion this is an example where OSM data is broken and should be > fixed. > > Andrew > > In India the law requires that the external boundaries of the country include parts of Kashmir that is now under control of foreign countries. This regularly causes issues when OSM is demoed publicly

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On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 05:59:19PM +, Craig Wallace wrote: > Note MySociety do not use boundaries from OSM for the UK for their > projects. Instead they just use boundaries from OS OpenData. > I think this is an example of where a separate database makes sense. > ie with the complete, up to dat

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On Sun, 10 Nov 2013 02:59:19 Craig Wallace wrote: > Note MySociety do not use boundaries from OSM for the UK for their > projects. Instead they just use boundaries from OS OpenData. > I think this is an example of where a separate database makes sense. ie > with the complete, up to date OS OpenData

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Jochen Topf said: > >I am sorry if I came across as arrogant or dismissive. This is absolutely not >my intention. No offence taken. As you say, we are in agreement here, mappers and data consumers must talk and help each other. > >What I was arguing against is somehow feeling >responsible for dat

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On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 07:28:16PM +, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > On Nov 9, 2013 5:39 PM, "Jochen Topf" wrote; > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 03:25:35PM +, Rob Nickerson wrote: > > > Perhaps some way of tracking our data consumers would be useful. Or > maybe > > > we need a way for them to say

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if something changes that they would want to know about. Jochen On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 06:55:53PM +0100, Colin Smale wrote: > Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 18:55:53 +0100 > From: Colin Smale > To: talk@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers >

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On Nov 9, 2013 5:39 PM, "Jochen Topf" wrote; > On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 03:25:35PM +, Rob Nickerson wrote: > > Perhaps some way of tracking our data consumers would be useful. Or maybe > > we need a way for them to say which tags they are interested in so that > > they can receive mail just abo

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On 2013-11-09 15:25, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi All, A few days ago there was a thread about the pros/cons of moving admin boundaries to a new database. I'm not going to give my opinion on this as the thread has now fizzled out, but I will suggest that decisions like this should involve as many of

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That does come across as a little arrogant, Jochen. The mappers and the data consumers need each other; neither can flourish without the other. A symbiotic model would be more accurate. As you say, we shouldn't change things willy-nilly, but to say bluntly "it's your problem" to all data consume

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On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 03:25:35PM +, Rob Nickerson wrote: > A few days ago there was a thread about the pros/cons of moving admin > boundaries to a new database. I'm not going to give my opinion on this as > the thread has now fizzled out, but I will suggest that decisions like this > should i

[OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers

Hi All, A few days ago there was a thread about the pros/cons of moving admin boundaries to a new database. I'm not going to give my opinion on this as the thread has now fizzled out, but I will suggest that decisions like this should involve as many of our end data users as possible (we have move