Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-23 Thread Lauri Kytömaa
Radomir Cernoch wrote: http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=60.18933lon=24.9642zoom=18 I do not think that streets like Sturenkatu or Teollisuuskatu, nor any of connected primary/secondary/tertiary form a zone. I would suggest to define a zone as an area with predominantly uniform traffic regulations.

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-23 Thread Radomír Černoch
Hi, the whole idea of polygons is over anyway... So my only answer to your points is yes. :-) Radek 2009/5/23 Lauri Kytömaa lkyto...@cc.hut.fi: Radomir Cernoch wrote: http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=60.18933lon=24.9642zoom=18 I do not think that streets like Sturenkatu or Teollisuuskatu, nor

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-22 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote But it will make it a lot simpler for mappers. If you see a No Cycling sign on a trunk road and want to compare it to the DB, then you don't need to think about where the country border polygon ends. So when I see

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-22 Thread Nic Roets
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: so... frequently running bots over entire countries to change the speed limit, or adding (by my count) about 20 million new tags to the DB, or dealing with inconsistencies between different editors, etc... that doesn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-22 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: As stated above, I'd certainly expect that it would be easier for #989431 to tag DE:rural info I missed the bit where DE:rural was proposed. How many roads outside of Germany are in Germany? How many roads in Germany

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-22 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Matt Amos zerebub...@gmail.com wrote: so... frequently running bots over entire countries to change the speed limit, or adding (by my count) about 20 million new tags to the DB, or dealing with

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-22 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: As stated above, I'd certainly expect that it would be easier for #989431 to tag DE:rural info I missed the bit where DE:rural was proposed.

[OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Richard Bullock
Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g. each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise e.g. in the UK, highway=residential would be 30mph (48.28032km/h), unless tagged as something else. each

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Nic Roets
My opinion is that all defaults should be global. We should not have any country or urban / rural specific defaults. It will mean most ways will need a lot of extra tags. So we may need to improve the editors to make it easier to add all those tags. For example give the editors modes like Rural UK

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Mario Salvini
Richard Bullock schrieb: Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g. each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise e.g. in the UK, highway=residential would be 30mph (48.28032km/h), unless tagged

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Lester Caine
Mario Salvini wrote: Richard Bullock schrieb: Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g. each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise e.g. in the UK, highway=residential would be 30mph

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net wrote: Am I missing something, No, you're not. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Andy Allan
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net wrote: Am I missing something, No, you're not. I should expand that statement. No, you're not missing something, it's a fairly straightforward problem

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Tobias Knerr
Nic Roets wrote: My opinion is that all defaults should be global. We should not have any country or urban / rural specific defaults. It will mean most ways will need a lot of extra tags. So we may need to improve the editors to make it easier to add all those tags. For example give the

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Stephen Hope
2009/5/22 Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net: Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g. each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise Actually, that wouldn't work where I live in Australia. Each

Re: [OSM-talk] Highways tagging vs Polygon

2009-05-21 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: My opinion is that all defaults should be global. We should not have any country or urban / rural specific defaults. It will mean most ways will need a lot of extra tags. So we may need to improve the editors to make it easier