Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-08-08 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:06:52 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote: * Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2010-07-21 00:19 -0700]: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:15:18 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote: I what way does OpenCycleMap get this right?  As

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-08-08 Thread Phil! Gold
* Richard Weait rich...@weait.com [2010-08-08 07:45 -0400]: Let's do a shields BoF at Atlanta next weekend. I have some ideas that make shields much easier and even solve shield concurrency. I'm not going to SotM-US, so let me just mention what I've experimented with (unsuccessfully). What

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-08-08 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Let's do a shields BoF at Atlanta next weekend. I have some ideas that make shields much easier and even solve shield concurrency. Hopefully your idea recognizes the silliness of rendering the individual state route shield

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-08-08 Thread Phil! Gold
* Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com [2010-08-08 09:41 -0400]: SELECT road.highway, route.network, route.ref FROM planet_osm_line road JOIN route_members ON road.osm_id = route_members.road_id JOIN planet_osm_line route ON route_members.postgis_id = route.osm_id I was doing this

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-08-08 Thread Craig Hinners
From: Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org Perhaps Richard could shed some more light on this, but relations are pretty much going to be necessary to properly render route shields given the huge variety in highway networks in North America and the world. My company has a beta version of a

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-08-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:06:52 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote: * Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2010-07-21 00:19 -0700]: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:15:18 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote: I what way does OpenCycleMap get this right? As far as I can tell, it doesn't render road shields at all. No, but it

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-21 Thread Craig Hinners
From: Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com There's been no standard way of tagging state highways since before I joined at the beginning of this year. Nor has there been in my four years here. Hell, I was the one who wrote the wiki suggestion to use the USPS state abbreviations. I am completely

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:15:18 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote: * Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2010-07-20 00:51 -0700]: On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:09:35 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote: In short, I'm okay seeing ref=K-10 on a road, because that's how people refer to them, and because I'd prefer to be

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-21 Thread Phil! Gold
* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2010-07-21 00:19 -0700]: On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:15:18 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote: I what way does OpenCycleMap get this right? As far as I can tell, it doesn't render road shields at all. No, but it does render route relations. It's the shields I want,

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:18:43 -0500, Toby Murray wrote: On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:  Curious why they use a starburst symbol that looks like an explosion for the trailblazer shield, though. It's a sunflower :) I like my version better, the mental

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:23:28 -0500, Alex Mauer wrote: On 07/19/2010 01:13 PM, Phil! Gold wrote: The problem with using refs to render state shields is that it can be difficult to get the right shield. Some states use the state abbreviation in the road reference (so Maryland route 26 is

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:41:10 -0500, Toby Murray wrote: I see at least one highway in Kansas has been tagged with K-10 - I'm guessing most people would consider that flat out wrong? :) Yes, even though Kansas does refer to state highways as K roads, even on official signage. Curious why they

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-20 Thread Phil! Gold
* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2010-07-20 00:51 -0700]: On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:09:35 -0400, Phil! Gold wrote: In short, I'm okay seeing ref=K-10 on a road, because that's how people refer to them, and because I'd prefer to be pulling information out of a relation tagged route=road,

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-20 Thread Toby Murray
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:  Curious why they use a starburst symbol that looks like an explosion for the trailblazer shield, though. It's a sunflower :) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-19 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2010-07-09 16:19 -0500]: Also, I see they are rendering highway shields. Didn't I see a big discussion about that here recently? :) Wonder if they are using the route relations to render

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-19 Thread Alex Mauer
On 07/19/2010 02:52 PM, Phil! Gold wrote: The wiki also explicitly says that you should use the two-character postal abbreviation for the state the road is in, but that seems to have been disregarded in states where a different prefix (like SR) is normally used. (To be fair, there's a lot of

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-19 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Nakor nakor@gmail.com wrote:  FYI just in case it did not come to this list. Are they going to the US SOTM? Yes, as of right now they're on the schedule to speak. - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-19 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/19/10 4:48 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: There's been no standard way of tagging state highways since before I joined at the beginning of this year. the US routes page has always called for US:ST or ST since i joined last summer. it's all a matter of which wiki pages you find. same problem

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-19 Thread Richard Weait
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 7/19/10 4:48 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: There's been no standard way of tagging state highways since before I joined at the beginning of this year. the US routes page has always called for US:ST or ST since i

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-19 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: The trunk issue is just a matter of selecting one level in the road-priority hierarchy. Being off by one is not the end of the world. Get the verifiable parameters right, name, surface, one way, single or dual

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-19 Thread Val Kartchner
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 18:51 -0400, Richard Welty wrote: On 7/19/10 4:48 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: There's been no standard way of tagging state highways since before I joined at the beginning of this year. the US routes page has always called for US:ST or ST since i joined last summer.

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-18 Thread Phil! Gold
* Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2010-07-09 16:19 -0500]: Also, I see they are rendering highway shields. Didn't I see a big discussion about that here recently? :) Wonder if they are using the route relations to render them... As I've been (kind of) working on US highway shields, I was

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-10 Thread Cartinus
On Saturday 10 July 2010 00:15:31 John Smith wrote: On 10 July 2010 07:56, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: Sure, but it’s beta anyway, so I think people wouldn’t be expecting too much from it. Still nice that they render it at least. I wonder how often they'll update their

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-10 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:50 PM, David Ellams osmli...@dellams.fastmail.fm wrote: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/07/09/aols-mapquest-looks-to-wikipedia-model-for-mapping/ Excerpts: MapQuest, the No. 2 Internet-mapping service after Google’s, is taking the first steps toward a Wikipedia-like

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-10 Thread Rolf Bode-Meyer
2010/7/10 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: MapQuest, the No. 2 Internet-mapping service after Google’s, is taking the first steps toward a Wikipedia-like model — in which users would generate the maps themselves and combine the results for everyone to use. This is excellent news. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-10 Thread Rolf Bode-Meyer
2010/7/9 David Ellams osmli...@dellams.fastmail.fm: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/07/09/aols-mapquest-looks-to-wikipedia-model-for-mapping/ What I'm impressed by is that they use the well known OSM tools like Mapnik, TileCache, Nominatim for creating the site. See

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-10 Thread Randy Meech
Thanks for the feedback -- we'll take a look next week and reply to the list. -Randy On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 11:57:49 +0100, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: The scale bar doesn't change, just the numbers

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-10 Thread Randy Meech
Updates did not make it in for the 7/9 launch, but will be a top priority when we get back to the states, we'll keep you updated. Again feel free to use these tiles with the usual beta warnings, and send feedback to o...@mapquest.com. At Patch we run minutely updates (http://patch-maps.com/) and

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-10 Thread Peter Körner
Am 10.07.2010 18:29, schrieb Randy Meech: Thanks for the feedback -- we'll take a look next week and reply to the list. Even better: open source the style-file, so we can do the changes for you. I'd be happy to host a version on the wikimedia toolservers. Peter

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-10 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:23 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Yeah, they'll remove it shortly when they notice the bugs If at first you don't succeed, give up. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-10 Thread Dane Springmeyer
On Jul 10, 2010, at 2:21 AM, Toby Murray wrote: Well I took a look at the blog post with the technical details. They are using a vanilla osm2pgsql/mapnik setup, just custom styles from Cartifact. They mention enhancing mapnik. Have these changes already made it back upstream or will that

[OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread David Ellams
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/07/09/aols-mapquest-looks-to-wikipedia-model-for-mapping/ Excerpts: MapQuest, the No. 2 Internet-mapping service after Google’s, is taking the first steps toward a Wikipedia-like model — in which users would generate the maps themselves and combine the results

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread SomeoneElse
On 09/07/2010 09:50, David Ellams wrote: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/07/09/aols-mapquest-looks-to-wikipedia-model-for-mapping/ http://open.mapquest.co.uk/ Woohoo! An OSM map with a scale on it! ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:11:02 +0100, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 09/07/2010 09:50, David Ellams wrote: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/07/09/aols-mapquest-looks-to-wikipedia-model-for-mapping/ http://open.mapquest.co.uk/ Woohoo! An OSM map with a scale on it!

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2010/7/9 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:11:02 +0100, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 09/07/2010 09:50, David Ellams wrote: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2010/07/09/aols-mapquest-looks-to-wikipedia-model-for-mapping/    http://open.mapquest.co.uk/

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:30:10 +0300, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/7/9 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:11:02 +0100, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 09/07/2010 09:50, David Ellams wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Richard Mann
The scale bar doesn't change, just the numbers next to it. Looks fine to me. Richard On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:30:10 +0300, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/7/9 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: On Fri, 09 Jul 2010

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 11:57:49 +0100, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: The scale bar doesn't change, just the numbers next to it. Looks fine to me. No, the numbers do not change, they only change when you change the zoom level. If you click the link

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread John Smith
Mapquest is also planning to spent $1mill to improve OSM data in the US: http://vector1media.com/spatialsustain/openstreetmap-gains-great-traction-this-week.html ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Mike N.
Mapquest is also planning to spent $1mill to improve OSM data in the US: This sort of thing is needed in the US to supplement or kick start the spontaneous contributions in order to end up with a nationally useful map. It will be interesting to see if they can apply it for maximum

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Alex Mauer
On 07/09/2010 03:50 AM, David Ellams wrote: The company, a subsidiary of AOL, plans to announce Friday morning that it is launching a site in the U.K. based on a project called OpenStreetMap, which is dedicated to user-created mapping. I wonder why they seem to suggest that it’s UK-only?

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Ian Dees
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 07/09/2010 03:50 AM, David Ellams wrote: The company, a subsidiary of AOL, plans to announce Friday morning that it is launching a site in the U.K. based on a project called OpenStreetMap, which is dedicated to

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Alex Mauer
On 07/09/2010 04:42 PM, Ian Dees wrote: Presumably because the data's not good enough in the US to market it to the whole world. Sure, but it’s beta anyway, so I think people wouldn’t be expecting too much from it. Still nice that they render it at least. —Alex Mauer “hawke” signature.asc

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Fabio Alessandro Locati
I hope AOL will put people (paid by them, obviously) to improve all the maps and merge the changes into the OSM db... it would be wonderful :) On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: On 07/09/2010 04:42 PM, Ian Dees wrote: Presumably because the data's not good

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread John Smith
On 10 July 2010 07:56, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote: Sure, but it’s beta anyway, so I think people wouldn’t be expecting too much from it. Still nice that they render it at least. I wonder how often they'll update their DB/tiles... ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread pavithran
On 10 July 2010 03:39, Fabio Alessandro Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: I hope AOL will put people (paid by them, obviously) to improve all the maps and merge the changes into the OSM db... it would be wonderful :) +1 Upstream contributions are very much welcome and promotes a healthy

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Sam Vekemans
Cool, Thanks for the summery, i saw this on my news feed. Its great to be noticed. Will be interesting to see what the editor is like. Cheers, Sam On 7/9/10, David Ellams osmli...@dellams.fastmail.fm wrote:

[Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Nakor
FYI just in case it did not come to this list. Are they going to the US SOTM? Mapquest is also planning to spent $1mill to improve OSM data in the US: http://vector1media.com/spatialsustain/openstreetmap-gains-great-traction-this-week.html ___

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Brad Neuhauser
From mapquest's blog post [1]: AOL also announced today, a $1 million open-source mapping investment fund. This fund will support the growth of open-source mapping in the United States in the local communities that Patch.com covers. More information about the AOL grant application process is

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Toby Murray
It doesn't seem too far behind. Maybe a couple of weeks. New features I added in early June are there but a few I did more recently aren't. Also, I see they are rendering highway shields. Didn't I see a big discussion about that here recently? :) Wonder if they are using the route relations to

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I see they are rendering highway shields. Didn't I see a big discussion about that here recently? :) Wonder if they are using the route relations to render them... Not sure what they are doing, because I-80 near

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/9/10 5:57 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Toby Murraytoby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I see they are rendering highway shields. Didn't I see a big discussion about that here recently? :) Wonder if they are using the route relations to render them...

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-09 Thread Toby Murray
Well I took a look at the blog post with the technical details. They are using a vanilla osm2pgsql/mapnik setup, just custom styles from Cartifact. They mention enhancing mapnik. Have these changes already made it back upstream or will that happen in the future? In particular I'm guessing the