Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

Paul Johnson wrote: > So pick social media that doesn't cater exclusively to a > crowd whose education stopped midway through Grade 2. > It's nearly impossible, in the English-speaking world, to > express an intelligent thought in 140 characters or less. > It's writing system just doesn't work

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

Make the link go to http://twitter.com/openstreetmap then and DON'T FEED THE TROLL! -Original Message- From: Tom Morris [mailto:t...@tommorris.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:54 AM To: Paul Johnson Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

On Tuesday, 15 January 2013 at 14:36, Paul Johnson wrote: > So pick social media that doesn't cater exclusively to a crowd whose > education stopped midway through Grade 2. I seem to have a Twitter account and a Master's degree. Brevity is the soul of wit and all that. -- Tom Morris

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

>It's nearly impossible, in the English-speaking world, to express an intelligent thought in 140 characters or less. You got that one expressed in 115 characters #JustSayin' On 15 January 2013 14:36, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Joseph Reeves wrote: > >> Ok, I'll bite..

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Joseph Reeves wrote: > Ok, I'll bite... > > >I think this would be missing our audience. If you're illiterate (a > group Twitter caters specifically to), what are the >odds you're going to > be able to make use of a map, much less contribute constructively to OSM? >

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Maybe the reason for the bad grammar of Twitter users is the 140 character limit, this people drop out words or letters to make it fit. Shaun On 9 Jan 2013, at 16:21, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Joseph Reeves wrote: > Ok, I'll bite... > > >I think this would be missing our audience. If you're

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 10/01/2013 00:17, Rovastar wrote: > >> Just because I contribute to an 'open' database, does that mean I have to >> oppose anything that is 'closed' or proprietary?7 > > That depends on what you think of social welfare programs. ; ) Absolu

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Hi, On 10.01.2013 01:46, Steve Doerr wrote: I'm really disturbed by the prevalent tone in this thread. What's 'ideology' got to do with OpenStreetMap? After 3+ years of contributing to OSM, have I actually been supporting some crypto-socialist conspiracy that opposes private-property rights, ;

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On 10/01/2013 00:17, Rovastar wrote: Firstly, I didn't expect so much conversation on this. I must say I never really though about the closed nature vs open source of OSM conflict. And I am not a facebook user myself (I really dislike the walled garden idea that is facebook) and only joined Twitt

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Firstly, I didn't expect so much conversation on this. I must say I never really though about the closed nature vs open source of OSM conflict. And I am not a facebook user myself (I really dislike the walled garden idea that is facebook) and only joined Twitter to see what it is about, I've not u

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+1 to JM's -1's to my +1 comments ; ) On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On 01/09/2013 08:49 PM, Jeff Meyer wrote: > > +1 to JM's request for putting together a plan to gather data. Moral > > and ethical questions aside, we don't know the value to OSM unless we > > test.

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On 01/09/2013 08:49 PM, Jeff Meyer wrote: > +1 to JM's request for putting together a plan to gather data. Moral > and ethical questions aside, we don't know the value to OSM unless we > test. Actually, moral and ethical problems must be defused preemptively - especially within a project that uphol

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

+1 to JM's request for putting together a plan to gather data. Moral and ethical questions aside, we don't know the value to OSM unless we test. I believe larger sites do things like offer a different home page to different users - e.g. one with these links, and then one without - in an attempt to

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

Martin Koppenhoefer wrote > Am 09.01.2013 um 15:18 schrieb Tobias Knerr < > osm@ > >: >> >> Of course that is an ideological point of view ... However, I would be >> wary to brush >> aside ideology completely... >> I don't mind if people use their favourite social networks to advocate >> OSM. Ho

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Am 09.01.2013 um 15:18 schrieb Tobias Knerr : > On 08.01.2013 22:31, Rovastar wrote: >> Nearly every site now has twitter, facebook, google plus, youtube channel, >> etc links. We have these social media outlets lets tell people about them. > [...] > > In my opinion, the most important reason to

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looking at some facts, there are: - 13002 followers on twitter - 4311 likes on facebook page (to be compared at the >200 000 on the google maps page) - ? suscribers on talk@ => on the 1 millions osm user, I'm quite sure (but have no facts) that a lot of people have a facebook account but didn't kno

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Twitter- and Facebook-user here, and I look forward to seeing links to those sites on the OSM page. Perhaps a 'Share this map' button alongside the Permalink/Sharelink links (it's basically an extension of the same idea, but saves the effort of doing copy and paste). Steve On 09/01/2013 15:15

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

Joseph Reeves wrote: > Ok, I'll bite... > > >I think this would be missing our audience. If you're illiterate (a > group > Twitter caters specifically to), what are the >odds you're going to be > able > to make use of a map, much less contribute constructively to OSM? > > How do illiterate peo

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/01/13 15:18, Tobias Knerr wrote: > On 08.01.2013 22:31, Rovastar wrote: >> Nearly every site now has twitter, facebook, google plus, youtube >> channel, etc links. We have these social media outlets lets tell people >> about them. > [...] >

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On 09/01/2013 01:37, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: I may be a grumpy old dinosaur but I don't see how diluting the Openstreetmap brand into the bland broth of proprietary centralized social services that plague the Internet nowadays will bring any value... But that's just my worthless opinion [..] B

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Ok, I'll bite... >I think this would be missing our audience. If you're illiterate (a group Twitter caters specifically to), what are the >odds you're going to be able to make use of a map, much less contribute constructively to OSM? How do illiterate people use Twitter? Do illiterate people hav

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > I think it is ok for us to post stuff to Twitter, and I think we should > make room for such news on our web page (many web sites have a widget that > shows the most recent twitter mentions). > > I would dislike a "follow us on Twitter" but

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Hi, I share Tobias' and Jean-Marc's dislike of centralized and proprietary social networks and I don't think we should offer free advertising for them (even if that is commonplace nowadays). Like Tobias said, many other things are "commonplace" (like contributing to Google Map Maker and t

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+1 I too would like OSM to become the goto site for maps and directions. I work in a large office, and to walk down the office and not see google maps on somebodys screen is rare. I do try to promote OSM, or OSRM when asked a where is, how to get to question and try to wean people of google.

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Hi, > This idea has been discussed in CWG, and at some point* a mock-up will > > appear. It's not straightforward because we can't use the standard > > network-supplied widgets -- they leak information back to those > > networks, so are an unacceptable risk to mappers' privacy. > > I'm glad to hea

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

On 08.01.2013 22:31, Rovastar wrote: > Nearly every site now has twitter, facebook, google plus, youtube channel, > etc links. We have these social media outlets lets tell people about them. [...] > I cannot see any harm in this it would take up very little screen real > estate and I think look a m

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On 09/01/2013 13:57, Greg Troxel wrote: > Personally, I find it puzzling that open data (and open source) projects > are willing to (as projects) use services with bad data policies and bad > privacy policies. While I wouldn't advocate that OSMF take a position > in the culture battle against such

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

Jonathan Bennett writes: > On 08/01/2013 21:31, Rovastar wrote: >> My idea is simple can someone add modern social media networks logos/links >> to the home page. > > As a member of the OSMF Communications Working Group (CWG), I have > perhaps the greatest level of involvement in the various OSM

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On 09/01/2013 13:43, Paweł Paprota wrote: > OSM does have an > official Facebook account[1] and official Twitter account ...and an official Google+ page: https://plus.google.com/+OpenStreetMap ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.o

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

On 08/01/2013 21:31, Rovastar wrote: > My idea is simple can someone add modern social media networks logos/links > to the home page. As a member of the OSMF Communications Working Group (CWG), I have perhaps the greatest level of involvement in the various OSM-branded pages/accounts on various so

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

On 01/09/2013 01:37 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: I may be a grumpy old dinosaur but I don't see how diluting the Openstreetmap brand into the bland broth of proprietary centralized social services that plague the Internet nowadays will bring any value... Simple question then: you go to osm.org

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On 01/08/2013 10:31 PM, Rovastar wrote: > Nearly every site now has twitter, facebook, google plus, youtube channel, > etc links. We have these social media outlets lets tell people about them. > > They could easily go under the "Make a donation" button as a 2x2 grid of > icons for the big 4 social

[OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

I joined the mailing list just to get involved in the OpenStreetMap Future Look discussion and join in the fight but now it has turned into a love in. :-) *hugs* What about a easier more practical suggestion to improve OpenStreetMap.org! My idea is simple can someone add modern social media netwo